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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 5:46:40 GMT 9.5
Paul is just being obscure, as is his wont. Indeed.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2011 8:50:10 GMT 9.5
It is my experience that esoteric growth comes far quicker by being forced to puzzle things out, than simply by being told. Excellent point Stewart, and it is the basic method used by all teachers in exoteric studies... ie school. So - henka, smithee, tamrin et al - have you even attempted to list the 20 most profound humans in the last 1000 years? Five even? What did they have, say or do in common?
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 9:59:02 GMT 9.5
So - henka, smithee, tamrin et al - have you even attempted to list the 20 most profound humans in the last 1000 years? Five even? What did they have, say or do in common? Every day for the past several years, under "Today in History" on my own forum, I have been listing significant personages and events. We are looking here for an event (an intervention) that was subverted, not something people have said or done in common. Either Paul knows what he meant or he doesn't.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2011 10:26:02 GMT 9.5
Oh I have no doubt that he knows what he is talking about.
>Mavity's Law: 98% of occultism is bull... >For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill - Clopton
These words obiously speak to you Tamrin, being part of your signature.
Occult = Hidden. Don't know who Mavity is, but he obviously was not a Freemason, or if he was, not a very effective one ie didn't learn much.
Gullibility = easily cheated or deceived. This might suggest that the gullible are honest and true themselves, and suppose that the rest of the world are just as honorable and truthful. Sadly they might become more disillusioned in time, but their very innocence we should applaud and try to emulate. Maybe Innocence, Earnestness and Experience is what leads to Wisdom.
I will not allow disrespect to be directed towards those who have the courage to share that which outside the ordinary.
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Post by Henka on Jun 6, 2011 11:07:17 GMT 9.5
. Occult = Hidden. Don't know who Mavity is, but he obviously was not a Freemason, or if he was, not a very effective one ie didn't learn much. I know Mavity, he's just a mite cynical. But he has a good point. Most of esotericism is a blind.
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Post by Henka on Jun 6, 2011 11:10:03 GMT 9.5
The 20 most profound humans in what discipline? 1000 years covers a lot of territory.
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Post by paul on Jun 6, 2011 11:26:46 GMT 9.5
Perhaps profundity extends beyond human categorisations of study
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 11:34:08 GMT 9.5
I will not allow disrespect to be directed towards those who have the courage to share that which outside the ordinary. That is the point: Paul has NOT shared!
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 11:36:29 GMT 9.5
Paul, Will you at least rule out this subverted intervention having any connection to the Third Reich?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2011 12:09:36 GMT 9.5
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Post by Henka on Jun 6, 2011 12:14:44 GMT 9.5
Perhaps profundity extends beyond human categorisations of study Perhaps so, but we are supposed to list the 20 most profound people of the last 1000 years. People implies humans. Now, to my mind, the most profound event in the last 1000 years is the recognition of the rights of the individual, which is the result of many people.
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 12:15:37 GMT 9.5
. Occult = Hidden. Don't know who Mavity is, but he obviously was not a Freemason, or if he was, not a very effective one ie didn't learn much. I know Mavity, he's just a mite cynical. But he has a good point. Most of esotericism is a blind. I consider Bro. Mavity to be an esoteric Mason. He was taught to be cautious, as was I
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Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2011 13:01:45 GMT 9.5
He could only be considered cautious if he had his boots on when wading through a field he decided if was 98% full of the proverbial.
Maybe he was looking down or straight ahead, rather than all around.
He must be a genius to know all there is to know about the hidden mysteries of science and nature, less that little 2% of course. I'm in awe.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2011 13:20:06 GMT 9.5
Some of the profound people from my list who changed the world just a little
Da Vinci Einstein Harriet Beecher Stowe Nikola Tesla Shakespeare/Bacon Galileo Gandhi Martin Luther King Nelson Mandela Mother Theresa Christopher Columbus Thomas Jefferson William Wilberforce Sir Isaac Newton Edgar Cayce
These are from my western world perspective. Other equally greats from other cultures.
The collectives = the founding fathers/mothers of United Nations, Red Cross, World Vision, Rotary, Lions Int, Animal Welfare League, etc etc, ALL organisations formed with the purpose to helping humanity.
Off course this list must include the totally negative influences, but I prefer not to name them.
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 13:34:56 GMT 9.5
How do you figure any of the above might be connected to Paul's subverted intervention?
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 13:44:24 GMT 9.5
Oh I have no doubt that he knows what he is talking about. Same here. I've added another
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Post by tamrin on Jun 6, 2011 13:52:35 GMT 9.5
He could only be considered cautious if he had his boots on when wading through a field he decided if was 98% full of the proverbial.
Maybe he was looking down or straight ahead, rather than all around.
He must be a genius to know all there is to know about the hidden mysteries of science and nature, less that little 2% of course. I'm in awe. You are better than this Bro. Lorraine, as is Bro. Mavity.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 6, 2011 16:41:09 GMT 9.5
No I'm not, I am a very naughty girl ;D
... and I still stand by my statement that anyone who says 98% of anything is crap.. is taking a bit of a shot in the dark. Simply because it is not possible to know 100% about anything.
I am sure Bro Mavity is a great man.. and has a sense of humour. Please invite him on.
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... and I still stand by my statement that anyone who says 98% of anything is crap.. is taking a bit of a shot in the dark. Simply because it is not possible to know 100% about anything. To me, it seems Mavity's Law applies not so much to Bro. Mavity's own, modest knowledge claims as to the extraordinary knowledge claims of others, which, as his experience and mine has shown, generally fail to withstand basic, rational scrutiny.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 17:54:28 GMT 9.5
Paul, Will you at least rule out this subverted intervention having any connection to the Third Reich? Let us be thankful that the intervention of the "Final Solution" was subverted.
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