Barbara Brown Taylor
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Post by Barbara Brown Taylor on Dec 16, 2011 5:45:55 GMT 9.5
Once I gave up the hunt for villains, I had little recourse but to take responsibility for my choices.
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Post by Paul Tillich on Dec 16, 2011 5:47:20 GMT 9.5
Man is free, in so far as he has the power of contradicting himself and his essential nature. Man is free even from his freedom; that is, he can surrender his humanity.
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Post by Rollo May on Dec 16, 2011 5:48:48 GMT 9.5
Human freedom involves our capacity to pause between the stimulus and response and, in that pause, to choose the one response toward which we wish to throw our weight. The capacity to create ourselves, based upon this freedom, is inseparable from consciousness or self-awareness.
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 5:50:34 GMT 9.5
Choosing not to choose (even as an act of omission) is still a choice. And an omission, even if forgotten, may constitute a binding constraint until consciously undone. Baldwin found an interesting case of a woman subject to dark entities. It turned out that she had given them permission by not resisting interference as a child. That permission remained in place because she did not know she had given it. www.amazon.com/Spirit-Releasement-Therapy-Technique-Manual/dp/092991516X A most valuable manual.
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 6:04:19 GMT 9.5
... the dynamic, psychobiological forces of the daimonic ... Would you like to give specific examples?
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Post by Stephen A Diamond on Dec 16, 2011 6:32:18 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 6:34:06 GMT 9.5
Any practical examples?
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Post by LorrB on Dec 16, 2011 8:50:42 GMT 9.5
Once I gave up the hunt for villains, I had little recourse but to take responsibility for my choices. ;D ....
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Post by Liv Ullmann on Dec 16, 2011 9:00:18 GMT 9.5
Choosing not to choose (even as an act of omission) is still a choice. And an omission, even if forgotten, may constitute a binding constraint until consciously undone. Baldwin found an interesting case of a woman subject to dark entities. It turned out that she had given them permission by not resisting interference as a child. That permission remained in place because she did not know she had given it. I am learning that if I just go on accepting the framework for life that others have given me, if I fail to make my own choices, the reason for my life will be missing. I will be unable to recognize that which I have the power to change
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Post by Pythia on Dec 16, 2011 9:04:09 GMT 9.5
Oh Man! Know thyself, and you will know the universe and the Gods.
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 9:06:50 GMT 9.5
I met a woman who experienced stabbing pains in the uterus after sex. I asked her to look at the cloud of pain and try matching it to people she knew. After a couple of minutes she said it matched her first husband.
And then she remembered that he had cursed her at the time of the divorce saying: you will never enjoy sex again.
Having identified the problem it was easy enough to fix - bearing in mind that the first husband was subject to an impressive dark entity.
What happened to the free will of the woman that she had a curse imposed upon her?
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Post by brandt on Dec 16, 2011 9:34:39 GMT 9.5
What happened to looking for more likely causes than curses? Perhaps it wasn't that the curse had some magical power but the woman was harboring some cognitive dissonance that she was able to reconcile when did exercise her free will and attention. Is that more likely than a magic curse?
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 9:47:36 GMT 9.5
The diagnostic analysis (energies and intelligences) was observed visually by both of us - and re-observed on later occasions.
And oddly enough dealing with the curse energy lines fixed the pain.
Oaths and promises also set up energy structures that operate despite being long forgotten
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Post by Eleanor Roosevelt on Dec 16, 2011 10:22:14 GMT 9.5
What happened to the free will of the woman that she had a curse imposed upon her? No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 10:44:44 GMT 9.5
That is an absolute statement - admitting of no exceptions.
I wonder if group karma might be an issue - or even human karma.
Exodus 34 5And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. 6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
It seems that the fourth generation bear the sins of the ancestors - by decision of the Lord.
It is important to take a positive stand even if weighed down by the karma of one's family/race/planet - but I would not under-estimate the difficulties of families oppressed by centuries of systemic darkness.
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Post by brandt on Dec 16, 2011 13:42:41 GMT 9.5
You mention seeing the energy. Can we, in discussion, state that your personal ideas did not guide the woman to see what you saw? In either case, what is the most likely cure? Should that not be examined first?
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Post by Ira Gershwin on Dec 16, 2011 13:48:46 GMT 9.5
Exodus 34 5And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. 6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. It ain't necessarily so, it ain't necessarily so. De t'ings dat yo' li'ble to read in de Bible, It ain't necessarily so
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 13:54:11 GMT 9.5
Oh Man! Know thyself, and you will know the universe and the Gods. That looks like: none
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 13:57:12 GMT 9.5
It ain't necessarily so, it ain't necessarily so. De t'ings dat yo' li'ble to read in de Bible, It ain't necessarily so Quite so. I have however observed a family with a degenerative disease that struck in the mid 20s rendering both legs pretty useless. Three generations had the disease and the fourth generation was free. Family karma?
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Post by paul on Dec 16, 2011 13:59:21 GMT 9.5
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