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Post by paul on Sept 19, 2011 7:57:04 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Sept 19, 2011 8:19:36 GMT 9.5
“This Headquarters has come to a determination that the mystery airplanes are in fact not earthly and according to secret intelligence sources, they are in all probability of interplanetary origin.” - George Marshall, Army Chief of Staff, March 5, 1942 The context of the above is the Battle of Los Angeles en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles
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Post by tamrin on Sept 19, 2011 10:06:22 GMT 9.5
I suggest readers click on the link and read for themselves. Another own goal
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Post by tamrin on Sept 19, 2011 10:12:04 GMT 9.5
"The Poem of the Mattock" is from Sumer" It is embedded with double meanings but the mattock remains with literal meanings: "the mattock it is that bears a person into the earth". Double meanings! Whodathunkit? A mattock bearing a person into the earth is more likely to signify digging a grave (interesting, there may be a parallel with the Adze used in the Egyptian "Opening of the Mouth" funereal ritual).
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Post by LorrB on Sept 19, 2011 10:32:50 GMT 9.5
Yes, Reagan wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer (but, as Will Rogers observed, “ The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected”). Careful ... ;D Some in high masonic offices might object.
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Post by cwhite on Sept 30, 2011 7:25:38 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Sept 30, 2011 9:10:08 GMT 9.5
Interesting link cwhite. Thank you. It is nice to see Dr's having the courage to stand up and be counted. I went into the site a little further and found a dying man's testimony. They are of particular interest to me, as the man says before he goes he wants to get something of his chest. www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999414.php
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 30, 2011 19:39:32 GMT 9.5
Cwhite, it is indeed a good site, and the Obama briefing document offers pause for thought. LorrB, indeed, and many of those who have come forwards in the US (which is reputedly the most secret nation re ufos, but then again reportedly [by a policeman - Tony Dodd in his book] the nation that collects down craft form around our world), are retired - the stage that they begin to have little to loose by disclosing in the public interest, and these include Generals, engineers etc. All highly credible people who would be believed with little question on pretty much any other topic. So the problem is not so much evidence (after all if a policeman goes to court and says he witnessed a robbery people will take that as evidence) but belief. Many people still can't believe it is possible, preferring the comfort zone of what they know. In the meantime the debunker's will debunk and character assassinate. Mind you part of the problem is that many expect aliens to do what they would do, have the same motivations etc. It is easier to assume an alien would want to land on the white house lawn and say Hi, as opposed, for theoretical example, to simply seeing us as breeding stock, with periodic health checks and tagging to monitors us, in the same we we do with animals. I mean just imagine again for theoretical example, how many would feel if they were to learn that we really were test tube humans formed by "gods" per the ancient legends who are still experimenting with us? How would religions cope? How would church goers cope? How would the human ego cope? It is however interesting to note how the resurgence in reports really started in ww2 with the advent of the atomic age, where humanity could do real harm, and Roswell happened at the worlds only nuclear base, and how reportedly atomic weapons sites fairly commonly get closed down by passing ufos rendering them inoperable. Perhaps splitting the atom was a step too far and required greater intervention to make sure that we didnt hurt ourselves? (Hand up here who believes that a senior military officer on the worlds only nuclear base could mistake a crashed ufo for a crashed weather balloon? - seriously - a gate guard possibly, but a senior officer ) [same at in England at Rendlesham - again nuclear facilities and again senior US military officers involved]. Clearly I am making the assumption that senior US Nuclear base officers are competent in their jobs ;D
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Post by paul on Sept 30, 2011 20:07:43 GMT 9.5
"W.A.Harbinson started to uncover the nightmarish truth about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) in the research for his international bestseller, Genesis. The initial information came from a one-off, neo-Nazi newspaper, Brisant, which was obtained at a scientific exhibition held in the Hannover Messe Hall in May 1978. The basic thrust of the material was that UFOs did not come from an extraterrestrial source, but were in fact man-made, originating right here on Earth. " www.inkdigital.org/harbinson/project.htmThe above series of novels is a substantially correct but incomplete account.
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Post by cwhite on Sept 30, 2011 23:00:31 GMT 9.5
It is however interesting to note how the resurgence in reports really started in ww2... I have a darker theory as to why the resurgence, at said time. The Babalon Working, botched by morons (Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard). Done just a few years earlier to the resurgence. And that the extra-terrestrial entities are actually extra-dimensional in nature. Who's familiar with this guy?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 17:31:23 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Oct 27, 2011 17:58:08 GMT 9.5
It uses factor analysis! End of credibility
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Post by tamrin on Oct 27, 2011 19:12:03 GMT 9.5
It uses factor analysis! End of credibility Why?
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Post by paul on Oct 27, 2011 19:18:45 GMT 9.5
Factor analysis is a statistical method used to describe variability among observed, correlated variables in terms of a potentially lower number of unobserved, uncorrelated variables called factors. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_analysisSo factor analysis uses "unobserved variables" to explain reality. The factors are generated automatically by the technique and may be unique to the particular data set and may not relate to any variables that humans might consider as real.
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Post by tamrin on Oct 28, 2011 5:14:35 GMT 9.5
Factor analysis is a statistical method used to describe variability among observed, correlated variables in terms of a potentially lower number of unobserved, uncorrelated variables called factors. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_analysisSo factor analysis uses "unobserved variables" to explain reality. The factors are generated automatically by the technique and may be unique to the particular data set and may not relate to any variables that humans might consider as real. As was my understanding, although your selective interpretation dose not do it justice. Your quote goes on to say: In other words one does not need to specify variables in the sample, the method will determine if ANY variable/s (observed or not) underlies the raw data. From an earlier career I recall trying to analyze a high number of complaint reports from one customer about bundles of twisted steel. I tried analyzing the reports and our production and dispatch data in terms of obvious factors, to no avail. I then tried factor analysis and found the only statistically significant variable was the time between dispatch (not production) and processing (date of complaint), something no one, including myself, had considered relevant. It was subsequently determined that it related to an unusually high amount of crane handling by the customer prior to processing (moving from one storage place to another due to their shortage of space), something which was not even in the original data. We decided to use an extra band in tying the bundles for that customer, to help withstand repeated movements prior to processing, and they created more storage space, so as to reduce the need for over-handling.
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Post by paul on Oct 28, 2011 8:11:42 GMT 9.5
Perhaps abduction is also a production process. In which case factor analysis may be useful.
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Post by paul on Dec 2, 2017 8:28:57 GMT 9.5
For example, some abductees when later hypnotically regressed describe entities that they consider are alien but when hypnotised more deeply start to recall some of the entities having German accents. Meanwhile there are more accounts of 20 year postings out in the solar system followed by time regression and memory suppression. "During his time in the SSP, Tony was treated as a slave and had to work incredibly hard. He and the other recruits were treated with a “carrot and stick” mentality, i.e. either rewarded or punished. He worked as cargo officer on a ship within the Solar System dropping off cargo at various bases (including moons of other planets e.g. Enceladus on Saturn). He reveals how some of the cargo was advanced alien technology (nuclear missiles far more sophisticated than terrestrial nuclear weapons). He mostly worked on Ceres (the largest asteroid in Solar System, in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter). There was a large base concealed in darkness at a location on Ceres where the sun doesn’t shine. Tony recalls visiting many Earth-like planets during his SSP time. The fact that he recalls so many details (some minor, some major) from his time working in the SSP lends credence to his account. For instance, he saw the Nazi eagle a lot on the uniforms of officials who commanded him (sometimes with a swastika below, sometimes with other symbols); he saw Ahuna Mons out of his spaceship window; he saw other spaceships in hangars; he describes a giant train station in Ceres with giant horses (built with scaffolding) in an underground cavern; the slave workers were constantly spied on, but no one could see the cameras; despite being a slave, he occasionally got paid small amounts (e.g. $20) in a currency called “Franks” which looked like an old Germanic currency; there were facial recognition technological devices for shopping there; there were automatic translators (English <=> German) so he could converse with some of the (grumpy) middle-aged female German shopkeepers there; " www.wakingtimes.com/2017/11/28/20-back-2-whistleblowers-divulge-involvement-secret-space-program/
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Post by fjrogers on Dec 3, 2017 14:11:04 GMT 9.5
That link is very revealing. Some governments might have to wake up to something in the future.
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Post by paul on Mar 17, 2023 9:50:39 GMT 9.5
I was in a conversation with a person interested in being taken by aliens. That prompted my memory of this Ufos present different language problems including written text. See for example the dragonfly devices. In some cases, abductees when later hypnotised recalled that the ufo inhabitants spoke with German accents And just recently read this: "Dave Paulides spent twenty years in law enforcement...before becoming interested in missing persons cases in national parks and wilderness areas. He subsequently wrote 11 books on missing persons... often involved triangle-shaped craft. ... Most intriguing was that those cases he investigated were all male hunters who had German ancestry. A significant fact is that one individual of German ancestry who was returned because he was infertile. Those taken and not returned were capable of biological reproduction." exopolitics.org/missing-persons-and-the-ufo-connection-interview-with-david-paulides/Are the aliens breeding Germans - or are many of the alien craft actually German Nazi craft? Why abduct so many males? Are the relevant females not human?
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Post by stewartedwards on Mar 19, 2023 4:30:10 GMT 9.5
I was in a conversation with a person interested in being taken by aliens. That prompted my memory of this Ufos present different language problems including written text. See for example the dragonfly devices. In some cases, abductees when later hypnotised recalled that the ufo inhabitants spoke with German accents And just recently read this: "Dave Paulides spent twenty years in law enforcement...before becoming interested in missing persons cases in national parks and wilderness areas. He subsequently wrote 11 books on missing persons... often involved triangle-shaped craft. ... Most intriguing was that those cases he investigated were all male hunters who had German ancestry. A significant fact is that one individual of German ancestry who was returned because he was infertile. Those taken and not returned were capable of biological reproduction." exopolitics.org/missing-persons-and-the-ufo-connection-interview-with-david-paulides/Are the aliens breeding Germans - or are many of the alien craft actually German Nazi craft? Why abduct so many males? Are the relevant females not human? Thoughts….. 1. The German accent/Nazi thing was first, iirc, televised in a film and tv series called ‘Darkskies’. It’s a fun watch, full of good music, historic events, a secret government organisation above the President, and German Nazi aliens, along with greys etc. 2. The European Union (whose membership I miss since Brexit) has free movement of people. So many in Germany won’t be Germans, while many Germans probably live and work in twenty odd other European nations, some likely going too and fro at weekends. As you know Paul, the underlying energy behind Nazi’ism, could probably connect to people in numerous countries. It so happens that it gained traction within Germany in the 1930s, but I don’t think that it is strong there today. Far from it in fact. There are other parts of the world that have gripped those energies, some who probably seek it, eg Far Right groups in other nations. But German ancestry is interesting. 3. How do you take the step from one returnee being infertile, to all those taken were fertile? That isn’t obvious. 4. To breed Germans, as matter of fact, you would need to born in Germany. I think you mean Nazis? 5. Any German Nazi craft of the 1930/1940s, would no doubt be surpassed by those in project Paperclip and onwards, surely? 6. Maybe the males aren’t human? Perhaps they need periodic upgrades? Maybe the relevant females are human? After all you postulated recently that various alien groups need human females, as did Gods of old. That should get the forum moving!
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