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Post by LorrB on Sept 16, 2011 9:22:06 GMT 9.5
It was newspaper articlel, Henka. I am not prepared to go to Nigeria to check it out for myself. However, I feel sure that if you contact World Vision, Red Cross and any similar organisation you about such matters you might be in for a bit of a shock.
A friend of mine worked in Kenya for a year with AIDS orphanages... that was as long as she could take it. Horrific stories.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 16, 2011 9:37:59 GMT 9.5
How was the hypothetrical and sensational introduction of children to the thread meant add to your case except by the pushing of emotional buttons? It is my belief that the emotional body can be related to the Junior Deacon in a lodge, aka the lower mind or consciousness. The Jnr Deacon relays messages between Soul Level (SW) and the Intellect (JW) The Intellect (JW) relies on two 'officers of a lodge' for inspiration and knowledge - the lower mind (JD) and the higher mind or consciousness (SD). (Keep in mind that the SD takes orders directly from Spirit and can relay those order to the Soul. The SD is reliant upon the JD, the emotional nature, to get that message through to the person's intellect.) So if we want to examine any problem whatsoever AND are willing to open ourselves up to receiving superior knowledge or information, then it is NECESSARY to activate our emotions - the petition must be heart felt.
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Post by paul on Sept 16, 2011 10:42:35 GMT 9.5
It is certainly fair to say that the mind will screen out possibilities that the emotions detect.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 16, 2011 11:41:28 GMT 9.5
The "Satanic Panic" here in the states caused all sorts of problems for Wiccans and other minority religions (Google the West Memphis Three). After extensive investigation, it was concluded that there was no network of baby sacrificing Satanists, that the false memories were implanted by...
wait for it...
Hypnotic regression itself! Whodathunkit! Indeed: And, returning to the subject at hand, the reports which gave rise to that Moral Panic, and the earlier accounts of Jews sacrificing Christian babies, bear many of the hallmarks (including "recovered memories") which appear in reports of alien abductions. Fortunately there are no aliens to subject to pogroms or to otherwise persecute (instead the "true believers" direct their ire at we "insensitive folk" who doubt the reports).
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Post by LorrB on Sept 16, 2011 12:32:53 GMT 9.5
Don't know why I thought of Monty Python ... Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour, That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, A sun that is the source of all our power. The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see Are moving at a million miles a day In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour, Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars. It's a hundred thousand light years side to side. It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick, But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide. We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point. We go 'round every two hundred million years, And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions In this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding In all of the directions it can whizz As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth, And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth. www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvpcOqSK7YU
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 17, 2011 18:51:24 GMT 9.5
For anyone who can access the National Georgaphic Channel tonight in the UK at 8pm there is a show called Alien Invasion. "In this one-off special learn how astrophysicists, weapon designers, military strategists, biologists and anthropologists are preparing for a real alien invasion and the plan for mankind to fight back" Someone somewhere clearly takes it seriously ;D (probably turn out to be about bacteria :
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Post by paul on Sept 17, 2011 20:54:39 GMT 9.5
Long ago Ronald Reagan announced the US Star Wars program - presumably to defend the Earth.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 18, 2011 6:22:18 GMT 9.5
Long ago Ronald Reagan announced the US Star Wars program - presumably to defend the Earth. Do you mean "Star Wars" (the Strategic Defense Initiative) had nothing to do with defending the USA from the " Evil Empire" (USSR) during the Cold War; specifically against nuclear attack using Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? As a wise man once said on this forum, Whodathunkit?
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Post by paul on Sept 18, 2011 7:05:27 GMT 9.5
''Of all the U.S. Presidents, Reagan more than any other President, appeared to be obsessed with the flying saucer topic. Billy Cox, a feature writer with Florida Today, wrote a major story in Florida Today about Reagan. The article looked at a series of alien invasion remarks that had appeared in a number of Reagan's speeches. Cox described the situation as "Ronald Reagan’s abiding fascination with extraterrestrials." www.presidentialufo.com/ronald-reagan/99-reagan-ufo-story
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Post by tamrin on Sept 18, 2011 8:35:57 GMT 9.5
''Of all the U.S. Presidents, Reagan more than any other President, appeared to be obsessed with the flying saucer topic. Billy Cox, a feature writer with Florida Today, wrote a major story in Florida Today about Reagan. The article looked at a series of alien invasion remarks that had appeared in a number of Reagan's speeches. Cox described the situation as "Ronald Reagan’s abiding fascination with extraterrestrials." www.presidentialufo.com/ronald-reagan/99-reagan-ufo-storyYes, Reagan wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer (but, as Will Rogers observed, “ The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected”). Significantly, despite his infantile beliefs (albeit, shared with millions) and the hopes of those “true believers,” nothing about confirmed UFO sightings was revealed during his presidency. Why? Probably because there was nothing. Moreover, the brief for the SDI was NOT for defense against extra-terrestrials: What would be the point if they have already been coming here for millennia (a case of bolting the door after the horse has bolted)?
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 18, 2011 15:58:49 GMT 9.5
What would be the point if they have already been coming here for millennia (a case of bolting the door after the horse has bolted)? On this tamrin I agree with you. I was thinking this while watching the 2hr programme. Nick Pope (ex UK MoD chap) gave some sound opinions based on his experience in the field doing this sort of stuff for our government. And it is clear that especially the USA have invested a lot of money in wargamming alien invasion scenarios. Apparently it could also help with natural disaster/pandemic management. The official USA government expectations of an alien invasion are pretty much total humanity wipe out within days but after a year we would win through guerilla warfare While it was mentioned in relation to early days in Iraq or Afgan, miscommunication wasnt really touched upon neither were friednly aliens. Methinks that this may make good tv, but could be devastating for the human race. However when all is said and done it is clear that a lot of money is being spent on how to react to such an invasion. Perhaps the conspiracy theorists are on to something Or perhaps daddy wants to know why his Roswell and later children have been shot down and experimented on and America is running scared. I wonder how much of US citizens tax is channeled into alien invasion resistance planning? Also there seemed to be an underlying assumption that aliens would be nasty, which some could be, but to simply compare aliens technology wise (and yes this was stated in the programme) with the most technologically advanced nation on Earth in the 1930s - Natzi Germany, is I think a little nieve, though I agree with the point being made that being the most technologically advanced does not necessarily equate to being the most moral.
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Post by paul on Sept 18, 2011 16:42:08 GMT 9.5
Moreover, the brief for the SDI was NOT for defense against extra-terrestrials: What would be the point if they have already been coming here for millennia.. Lt Col Corso (on the staff of the US National Security Council 1953–1957) tells us that the US government was extremely disturbed by its inability to defend against ufos and that it was not until the early 1990s (as I recall) that the US began to have useful defensive capabilities. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell
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Post by tamrin on Sept 18, 2011 19:19:41 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Sept 18, 2011 19:47:43 GMT 9.5
"The only thing "extraterrestrial" in Philip Corso's book "The Day After Roswell", is the height of his tall tales, certainly the tallest Roswell tales to date."
It certainly is a great pity that the US employs insane officers on their National Security Council.
I would have thought that after Corso's first dozen military awards that someone should have spotted the problem.
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Post by cwhite on Sept 19, 2011 1:14:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 19, 2011 1:56:03 GMT 9.5
Cwhite
Way too long for me I am afraid.
Over the years I have spent hundreds of hours learning about the phenomenon and I am now more interested in watching the politicians play the politics game of who is going to represent the Earth at official first contact, and how the Americans are going to deal with dealing with the fact that they could be the most unpopular nation on this planet as far as aliens are concerned (if even just a small fraction of what is written about crashes, shoot downs, keeping craft, experimenting on craft occupants etc is true).
Its the business and economic opportunities that really interest me, but they wont happen until the human race leaves puberty. Not those gained from reverse engineering but those from a free flow of trade.
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Post by paul on Sept 19, 2011 5:44:23 GMT 9.5
As I recall, according to ancient traditions the first artifact provided by aliens was the mattock. It is still in use.
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Post by cwhite on Sept 19, 2011 5:45:56 GMT 9.5
I know that it is quite a long video, but it's well worth it. He explains that we've had contact with aliens since the 40's. He also explained abductions. And that we've aligned ourselves(signed a treaty) with the wrong group, alienating ourselves from the right group (the good guys). At the end of the video, he even states that US moles infiltrated the Vatican, around WW 2, and that he has seen Fatima's TRUE 3rd secret (and he reveals it)!
Long video, but it's well worth watching!
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Post by tamrin on Sept 19, 2011 6:01:13 GMT 9.5
As I recall, according to ancient traditions the first artifact provided by aliens was the mattock. It is still in use. Please explain how something can be "according to ancient traditions" when it refers to a relatively modern concept (i.e., extraterrestrial as aliens). What is your anachronistic source?
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Post by paul on Sept 19, 2011 7:53:55 GMT 9.5
The sky heros and sky gods that the legends maintain came from the heavens these days are called alien (other)
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