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Post by LorrB on Feb 17, 2012 11:41:05 GMT 9.5
oooh...look what I found... Hatmehit
Hatmehit, or Hatmehyt (reconstructed to have been pronounced *Hâwit-Maḥûyat in Egyptian) in the ancient Egyptian religion was a fish-goddess in the area around the delta city of Per-banebdjedet, Mendes. In ancient Egyptian art Hatmehit was depicted either as a fish, or a woman with a fish emblem or crown on her head. She was a goddess of life and protection.
Her name translates as Foremost of Fish or Chief of Fish. She may have some connection to Hathor, one of the oldest deities of Egypt who also went by the name Mehit, meaning great flood. This may possibly be due to being seen as a remnant of the primal waters of creation from which all things arose. Other goddesses associated with the primal waters of creation are Mut and Naunet.
When the cult of Osiris arose, the people of Mendes reacted by identifying Osiris as having achieved his authority by being the husband of Hatmehit. In particular, it was the Ba of Osiris, known as Banebjed (literally meaning Ba of the lord of the djed, referring to Osiris), which was said to have married Hatmehit.
When Horus became considered the son of Osiris, a form known as Harpocrates (Har-pa-khered in Egyptian), Hatmehit was consequently said to be his mother. As wife of Osiris, and mother of Horus, she eventually became identified as a form of Isis. I didn't know that! |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 11:46:50 GMT 9.5
The Annedotus were/are amphibians. The Annedotus came out of the sea each morning to teach the Greeks the relevant sciences and civilising institutions.
Is it too much of a stretch to ask whether the Annedotus were the followers of An? (An/On seems to have been the same as TMH)
Were/are Osiris and Isis part of the Annedotus?
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 17, 2012 12:09:09 GMT 9.5
Breaking news story. Bright star attracts attention. Here we see the challenge faced by the materialist. What to do when others find intelligence and support from a cosmos that seems indifferent and pitiless to the materialist. Yes, it's quite sad, isn't it? It has been my observation that when I treat the Cosmos as "intelligent" it most certainly responds in a startlingly intelligent fashion; when people treat it as "unintelligent' they get THAT response too! And, why not? The fact was, it was a very clear and cold night and ALL the stars were brilliant, so , but there was something definitely 'different' about that one! The sense of 'rapport' was quite tangible, at least, it was to me! But I could see how someone who was mired in the material would not have felt it at all! For people like that, the esoteric is a closed book and the world to them is an unlit art gallery with the pictures turned to the wall. |
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Post by Henka on Feb 17, 2012 14:43:06 GMT 9.5
Were/are Osiris and Isis part of the Annedotus? Uh, no. |
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Post by Henka on Feb 17, 2012 14:46:16 GMT 9.5
Osiris is not a fish god! Paul, you seem to have a particular fetish for fish-beings, fish-gods and fish-aliens.
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 14:49:52 GMT 9.5
Were/are Osiris and Isis part of the Annedotus? Uh, no. Would you like to say why you are so sure? |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 14:52:59 GMT 9.5
Osiris is not a fish god! Paul, you seem to have a particular fetish for fish-beings, fish-gods and fish-aliens. Here is Osiris with his scales  And here is the widow Isis designated by a fish  |
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Post by Henka on Feb 17, 2012 14:57:50 GMT 9.5
Those aren't scales, they are stylized wrappings, and that is a vulture headdress.
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 14:59:13 GMT 9.5
Those aren't scales, and that is a vulture headdress. See updated image |
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Post by Henka on Feb 17, 2012 15:00:20 GMT 9.5
I can't, it is a blue box with a question mark in it.
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 15:07:50 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Feb 17, 2012 15:08:52 GMT 9.5
Osiris is not a fish god! Paul, you seem to have a particular fetish for fish-beings, fish-gods and fish-aliens. Because I do not think we are the only beings in the Universe, I don't have much of a problem envisaging a race from elsewhere having scaly skin, blue or green skin, gigantic or dwarf, etc etc. Racial characteristics differ greatly just on our planet. |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 15:24:27 GMT 9.5
"THE SIXTY-SECOND CEREMONY. Four Khenfu cakes with the formula:-- "Osiris Unas, the Eye of Horus, which hath been made in the form of fish-scales for thee, hath been presented unto thee." www.sacred-texts.com/egy/lfo/lfo061.htm"The tale of Osiris becoming fish-like is cognate with the story the Greek shepherd god Pan becoming fish like from the waist down in the same river Nile after being attacked by Typhon" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris |
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Post by Iris Murdoch on Feb 17, 2012 18:19:17 GMT 9.5
Here we see the challenge faced by the materialist. What to do when others find intelligence and support from a cosmos that seems indifferent and pitiless to the materialist. "There are all sorts of things that would be comforting. I expect an injection of morphine would be comforting... But to say that something is comforting is not to say that it's true." "Anything that consoles is fake." |
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Post by Bertrand Russell on Feb 17, 2012 18:23:01 GMT 9.5
"There are all sorts of things that would be comforting. I expect an injection of morphine would be comforting... But to say that something is comforting is not to say that it's true." "Anything that consoles is fake." "People will tell us that without the consolations of religion they would be intolerably unhappy. So far as this is true, it is a coward's argument. Nobody but a coward would consciously choose to live in a fool's paradise." www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/religion/br/br_god.html |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 19:10:49 GMT 9.5
I am not sure how you get from "intelligence and support" to "consoles". Are you making a "straw man" argument?
For example, I was looking for accommodation and finding it difficult to obtain a suitable place. I drove to a place that might have been good, just to have a look. As I sat in the car the owners drove up and saw me and invited me in. Being there a few minutes earlier and I would have missed them. Or even a few minutes later, not seeing them I probably would have turned away. And yet it was a most appropriate place for me - exactly on nice leyline, the same width as the house.
Such is support from the Cosmos. Not a lot of consolation but lots of practical help.
If you are interested I dare say others here have many such stories of good outcomes delivered through the narrowest of time-space windows.
The great thing is that you do not have to believe to obtain help. It is more a matter of being deserving (just and upright) and not letting disbelief get in the way.
Thus you may say to the Cosmos: I am not admitting anything, but if it happens that you are real, help me out with ....
Of course what you ask for should not be selfish or harmful for others.
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Post by Roll of the dice on Feb 17, 2012 19:53:44 GMT 9.5
"Support" and "consoles" are not exactly antonyms.
We all experience coincidences. Some make more of them than others.
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Post by Symmetry on Feb 17, 2012 20:00:57 GMT 9.5
Except that a fish's spine does not pass through the centerline of it's body as depicted in the illustration. Basic steps in the evolution of a pictograph to a sign include simplification and symmetry (especially using a stylus). Consider the evolution of the Phoenician Tau from a bull's head to the letter T. |
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Post by paul on Feb 17, 2012 20:07:33 GMT 9.5
.. We all experience coincidences. Some make more of them than others. Exactly. Some people get so many positive coincidences that it becomes a way of life for them. |
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Post by Henka on Feb 18, 2012 1:19:04 GMT 9.5
Would you like to say why you are so sure? Because they are God and Goddess, and we regularly invoke them in our circles. |
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