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Post by cwhite on Feb 16, 2012 2:33:10 GMT 9.5
I like hearing about your experiences... I am rather interested in the 36 Righteous Men... and am looking into it. Half of 72, which has kept me busy for a few years now. 72 and white wands.. It is true, though less well known, that there is much more to the 36 than just 36; they also have PARTNERS. In fact, the Shemhamphorash is closely connected to the 36 (x2).Interestingly, the Egyptians had 75 Names of God...72 plus the Supernal 3. Osiris had 36 forms. In order to be reborn, he had to be cut into 72 pieces. Each form needed to be cut in half. When Isis gathered and reassembled the pieces, she lost his genitalia. The Supernal 3, in essence, is "2 and 1".
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 7:14:57 GMT 9.5
She didn't lose it, it was eaten by a fish.
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 7:21:15 GMT 9.5
Interestingly, the only reference a Google search revealed related to Osiris and 36 is from Vaj/Sekmhet's post at MFoL. An attempt to connect the "36 righteous men" of Talmudic myth in with Osiris, somehow. I would be curious if one of you could supply an authentic reference to this, rather than speculation?
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 7:24:41 GMT 9.5
I am not sure being made a Mason is always what one would hope. Certainly many new brethren leave before their raising. The issue perhaps is that ever since the London Masons of 1717 there has been little clarity on the purpose of Masonry. In the absence of clear purpose it was too easy to erode the ritual and lose contact with the genuine secrets. Which leads to wild speculation about rays emanating from Sirius beaming down into our Earthly lodges, among other things...
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 7:38:27 GMT 9.5
'Isis und Osiris' has been bought to my attention for the past 5 days - so this thread is now of more interest to me than it might have been.. I found this googling around... unfortunately the images do not come up on my computer, but the math is fascinating. I particularly like the reference to the mirror image cones... rebirth? The famous Osiris Number 432 and 25,920
The Osiris Numbers synchronise the precessional cycle with the clockworks of a 360 degree circle, and a 24-hour day, impressing upon nature the seal of Creation. The most prominent Osiris Number has always been 432. For example, the Great Pyramid is apparently meant to be a proportional model of the Northern hemisphere, scaled down to 1 : 43,200 . This number is twice the 21,600 minutes (and also nautical miles) in 360 degrees around the Earth, and half the number of seconds in a 24 hour day ( 86,400).
Why 432?
a) Many writers automatically associate the hexadecimal system with the division of the circle into 360 degrees, despite the fact that 360 is not a whole multiple of 16, the hex base.The lowest number divisible into whole multiples of both 16, and 36 (one-tenth of 360) is 144. However, 144 is not a whole multiple of either 54, or 108, which like 36 are found as angles on a regular 5-pointed star drawn over a cross. This is a job for 432. Here, we can observe that 432 contains whole multiples of all the major angles found on a regular 5-pointed star (pentagram), drawn over a cross: ( 18 36 54 72 108 144 )
Here is the list of all numbers dividing evenly into 432: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 18, 24, 27, 36, 48, 54, 72, 108, 144, and 216. Figuratively speaking, 432 is a major intersection. www.gnostics.com/Osiris9.htmlPS... the 144(000) is a reference to the 'saved'? PPS... The Sun, the moon and the stars are messengers of His Will ?
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 8:06:50 GMT 9.5
The precessional cycle takes 25,920 years Using a pair of compasses, the radius of a circle divides its circumference into six even parts! This may be the geometric key to 432's importance. As 4,320, it is one-sixth of the Zodiac's circle of 25,920 years, and one-fifth of the number of nautical miles in the circumference of Earth. The precessional cycle of 25920 years is referred to as the Platonic year. www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/precession.htm
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 8:20:14 GMT 9.5
She didn't lose it, it was eaten by a fish. PiscesThe Precessionary cycle is measured in 'months' named according to the constellation visible behind the vernal equinox sunrise. We are presently finishing the 'age of Pisces' and will be soon entering the 'age of Aquarius'. It is suggested (and supported by a growing weight of evidence), that this cycle was recognised at least as far back as the age of Taurus, although there are suggestions of recognition as far back as Leo (as represented by the Sphinx at Giza).
Constellation (Represented by) Date as Suns 'Carrier' Leo (Lion) 10,800 - 8,640 BC Cancer (Crab) 8,640 - 6,480 BC Gemini (Twins) 6,480 - 4,320 BC Taurus (Bull) 4,320 - 2,160 BC Aries (Ram) 2,160 BC - 0 Pisces (Fish) 0 - 2,160 AD Aquarius (Water jug) 2,160 - 4,320 AD The Ram.eses handed over to 'the Fishers of men'? Isis/Osiris legend represented the old 'Order' and its transition to a new generation of a different 'Order'. We are again at a gateway.. into Aquarius, which is an Air sign! Airwaves? The Internet springs to mind (Now where did that thought come from...! It just sprang to mind that Jesus, at the end of his ministry (fishing for men) ascended into the Air). Love it when that happens!
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 8:55:17 GMT 9.5
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Post by cwhite on Feb 16, 2012 8:56:44 GMT 9.5
She didn't lose it, it was eaten by a fish. It was said that the the ring of Solomon was swallowed by a fish, caught by a fisherman, and served to him. Do you think that it could have happened to Osiris?
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 9:00:50 GMT 9.5
She didn't lose it, it was eaten by a fish. It was said that the the ring of Solomon was swallowed by a fish, caught by a fisherman, and served to him. Do you think that it could have happened to Osiris? I doubt he was served Solomon's ring. ;D
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 9:08:17 GMT 9.5
She didn't lose it, it was eaten by a fish. PiscesThe Precessionary cycle is measured in 'months' named according to the constellation visible behind the vernal equinox sunrise. We are presently finishing the 'age of Pisces' and will be soon entering the 'age of Aquarius'. It is suggested (and supported by a growing weight of evidence), that this cycle was recognised at least as far back as the age of Taurus, although there are suggestions of recognition as far back as Leo (as represented by the Sphinx at Giza).
Constellation (Represented by) Date as Suns 'Carrier' Leo (Lion) 10,800 - 8,640 BC Cancer (Crab) 8,640 - 6,480 BC Gemini (Twins) 6,480 - 4,320 BC Taurus (Bull) 4,320 - 2,160 BC Aries (Ram) 2,160 BC - 0 Pisces (Fish) 0 - 2,160 AD Aquarius (Water jug) 2,160 - 4,320 AD The Ram.eses handed over to 'the Fishers of men'? Isis/Osiris legend represented the old 'Order' and its transition to a new generation of a different 'Order'. We are again at a gateway.. into Aquarius, which is an Air sign! Airwaves? The Internet springs to mind (Now where did that thought come from...! It just sprang to mind that Jesus, at the end of his ministry (fishing for men) ascended into the Air). Love it when that happens! Ram.eses? There you go equating english words with foreign languages again! The word for Ram in ancient Khemetian is Ba.
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 9:56:08 GMT 9.5
I know, I was being silly and using puns.
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Ra-moses Thut or Thoth-moses
Moses = irradiation.
Moses is famously shown with horns (the Bull - Taurus), descended from the mount (Heavenly consciousness?) and chastised the chosen who were 'worshiping' the Bull. He had them replace the golden Bull with the golden Ram (Aries). The Golden Fleece? Also famously, Moses (the Head of the Bulls) did not make it to the 'new land'. He passed the rod to Aaron.
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Post by paul on Feb 16, 2012 9:59:57 GMT 9.5
Which leads to wild speculation about rays emanating from Sirius beaming down into our Earthly lodges, among other things... Are you saying that we should not evaluate the legitimacy or knowledge of the London Masons of 1717? Consider for example the explanations of the Blazing Star post 1717.
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 10:07:19 GMT 9.5
Which leads to wild speculation about rays emanating from Sirius beaming down into our Earthly lodges, among other things... Are you saying that we should not evaluate the legitimacy or knowledge of the London Masons of 1717? Consider for example the explanations of the Blazing Star post 1717. I didn't mention the London Masons of 1717. The Blazing Star is Venus, as I've said numerous times and no one seems to believe. Masonry preserves astronomical knowledge in our ritual.
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 10:12:56 GMT 9.5
The 'Ba' (b3) is in some regards the closest to the contemporary Western religious notion of a soul, but it also was everything that makes an individual unique, similar to the notion of 'personality'. (In this sense, inanimate objects could also have a 'Ba', a unique character, and indeed Old Kingdom pyramids often were called the 'Ba' of their owner). Like a soul, the 'Ba' is an aspect of a person that the Egyptians believed would live after the body died, and it is sometimes depicted as a human-headed bird flying out of the tomb to join with the 'Ka' in the afterlife The Ka (k3) was the Egyptian concept of vital essence, that which distinguishes the difference between a living and a dead person, with death occurring when the ka left the body. The Egyptians believed that Khnum created the bodies of children on a potter's wheel and inserted them into their mothers' bodies. The Ka is pictured thus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_soulThe potters wheel might be pictured thus.. ? www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/img/05600.jpg
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2012 10:14:02 GMT 9.5
I have argued that the Blazing Star is not a star at all ... no one believes me either
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Post by paul on Feb 16, 2012 10:47:10 GMT 9.5
... The Blazing Star is Venus, as I've said numerous times and no one seems to believe. Masonry preserves astronomical knowledge in our ritual. Venus is certainly preserved in the ritual in various forms. The difficulties with linking the Blazing Star to Venus are various, for example consider that Venus might then appear twice in the EA TB. Further the word Sirius is derived from the greek word Seirios σείριος "scorching, destructive" Thus the name Sirius can be translated as the scorching star or perhaps flaming star. As the gentlemen Masons at the beginning of the 18th century were educated in Greek, there was no need to identify the Blazing Star, it being a direct translation of the Greek σείριος
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 12:56:53 GMT 9.5
The 'Ba' (b3) is in some regards the closest to the contemporary Western religious notion of a soul, but it also was everything that makes an individual unique, similar to the notion of 'personality'. (In this sense, inanimate objects could also have a 'Ba', a unique character, and indeed Old Kingdom pyramids often were called the 'Ba' of their owner). Like a soul, the 'Ba' is an aspect of a person that the Egyptians believed would live after the body died, and it is sometimes depicted as a human-headed bird flying out of the tomb to join with the 'Ka' in the afterlife Hence Ba is represented hieroglyphically as a ram and is associated with strength.
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 12:58:43 GMT 9.5
I have argued that the Blazing Star is not a star at all ... no one believes me either And esoterically you are correct.
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Post by Henka on Feb 16, 2012 13:03:44 GMT 9.5
The difficulties with linking the Blazing Star to Venus are various, for example consider that Venus might then appear twice in the EA TB. Further the word Sirius is derived from the greek word Seirios σείριος "scorching, destructive" Thus the name Sirius can be translated as the scorching star or perhaps flaming star. As the gentlemen Masons at the beginning of the 18th century were educated in Greek, there was no need to identify the Blazing Star, it being a direct translation of the Greek σείριος It was so designated because it heralded the "Dog Days" of summer. To the ancient Khemitians, Sothis (Sirius) represented Isis, because it heralded the annual inundation of the Nile, which they were dependent upon for agriculture. In a past life, I was a priest in Khemet. I remember many things about that incarnation.
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