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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 7:35:57 GMT 9.5
>high spirited artist well defines soul? Certainly some artists transmit spirit through their work. This is Turner ![](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sdHY0bEA7Es/TQXJydc8_AI/AAAAAAAAA3o/_P-5APUJ-B4/s400/turner-castle.jpg) What in our response to the image tells us that it is not soul being transmitted?
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2013 14:46:29 GMT 9.5
leading question. pls rephrase.
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 15:53:12 GMT 9.5
>pls rephrase.
What is transmitted as a meta-value to the observer through the above image?
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2013 16:00:17 GMT 9.5
i see an eye that observes both the "dark" nature of man and the not so dark nature of nature. perhaps the artist wanted to convey that "we" went astray?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 3, 2013 16:05:01 GMT 9.5
ooh - good call mgc. See exactly what you mean.
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 16:06:13 GMT 9.5
So is the "eye" Spirit?
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2013 16:20:20 GMT 9.5
the eye could be spirit (in this case the artists), or it could be tga (in this case the artist). imo the eye represents encompassing consciousness.
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 16:23:27 GMT 9.5
My question was more about the metaphysical process in the observer rather than the symbolic interpretation.
Can the observer feel spirit or soul being transmitted through the image?
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2013 16:32:30 GMT 9.5
404 sorry, your use of undefined terms makes it impossible to compute.
the closest i can get to answering your question is: i deduce that the artist is conscious.
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 16:49:18 GMT 9.5
It was intended as an experiential question not for logical computation. Just as we experience physical Nature, so can we experience metaphysical Nature.
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2013 17:43:05 GMT 9.5
mmm,.. the first thing i noticed was contrast (it caused a frown). u could say knowledge of light and dark. second i noticed the cloud surrounding the sun had a peculiar shape (the symbolism was (to) obvious to me). translating literally: the artists eye was shaped by a cloud. translating loosely: the artists mind was molded by (sub-) culture. thirdly i spotted some "deer" going for a drink. (i dont mind deer).
the second time i looked at the pic i noticed a white "cloud" over the black "city" (more contrast, odd cloud). the shadow cast by the city on the water looks weird to me and the scale of the animals (if thats what they r) seems off, but that might be a case of poor brush control.
those r my observations. your turn
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 18:21:32 GMT 9.5
The primary quality for me is stillness. And shapes largely disappear in the flow of light.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 3, 2013 20:17:14 GMT 9.5
For me it is the other way round, first I see the animal, then civilisation then the light. But it is all good, just as it would be.
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2013 20:24:40 GMT 9.5
In the image nothing moves. Absolute stillness and I can feel it when I look at the image
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Post by mgc on Aug 4, 2013 2:23:27 GMT 9.5
"it is all good" ur not affected by the apparent darkness of civilization?
"nothing moves" what about those deer, or the clouds, or the sun?
what r your experiences of metaphysical Nature regarding this painting?
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2013 6:57:12 GMT 9.5
>what about those deer, or the clouds, or the sun?
The inner sensation emanating from the image is absolute stillness. This is outwardly shown by the animals not walking and there being no waves on the water. The stillness however is more profound than the stationary scene.
Try sitting and feeling into the image without thinking or analysing. Just project into the energy of the image.
>what r your experiences of metaphysical Nature regarding this painting?
All Creation is a shadow cast by the light of Spirit.
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Post by mgc on Aug 4, 2013 8:42:27 GMT 9.5
paul, its a painting. were u to imagine it as if real, wouldnt stuff move? have u yourself stopped moving?
"Just project into the energy" 1 does not simply climb mount ngauruhoe.
the eye casts no shadow. it merely provides the light for shadows to be cast.
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2013 8:50:00 GMT 9.5
>1 does not simply climb mount ngauruhoe. Quite so. As you may recall Hodson, in his diary (Light of the Sanctuary - The Occult Diary of Geoffrey Hodson) recounts that there was an energy field at Mt Ngauruhoe that was the strongest energy field that he had encountered. (It changed about 1990 so only photos prior to that can be used to discover what he found) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_NgauruhoeSimilarly can one project into the inner energy field anchored in Turner's painting?
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Post by mgc on Aug 4, 2013 9:15:36 GMT 9.5
The mountain is usually climbed from the western side, the first 45 minutes of the valley walk are suitable for children or older people. The track then climbs very steeply to the base of the climb. In summer the climb is difficult due to the loose tephra that gives way underfoot. In winter, snow consolidates the tephra. As the slope is about 45 degrees, kicking steps is essential (!!!), and this requires fitness. After rain, the snow may be covered by ice which is treacherous. Ice axes, crampons and ropes are recommended in midwinter. Climbers should practice self arrest (!!!) with ice axes on the lower slopes if icy conditions prevail. Experienced and fit climbers can attempt the climb from the northern (!!!) side by cutting across the lava flows in the Mangatepopo valley from the Mangatepopo hut. This route is far longer with no flat areas for rest and is not (!!!) recommended for casual climbers. wiki
"Similarly can one project into the inner energy field anchored in Turner's painting?" similarly to what?
"As you may recall Hodson" sorry, doesnt ring a belle.
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2013 9:19:28 GMT 9.5
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