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Post by paul on May 12, 2011 14:40:44 GMT 9.5
I am not sure how time travel was suggested, but in my experience the consciousness remains outside time lines while localising in selected time lines.
This potentially allows experiential leakage from an incarnation in one time line to an incarnation in another. Such leakage may be more evident in the state of consciousness between sleeping and waking.
It may also be possible for humans to slip between related time lines without even noticing.
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Post by LorrB on May 12, 2011 15:09:28 GMT 9.5
Sliding doors.
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Post by mgc on May 12, 2011 22:30:08 GMT 9.5
Skin colours nearest the North Pole are very pale Skin colours nearest the South Pole are very dark So cold weather or the polar days or nights or solar radiation don't seem to be a cause. isnt the magnetic field that protects us from (most of the) solar radiation weakest at the south pole?
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Post by LorrB on May 13, 2011 10:45:28 GMT 9.5
Re: God s in lodge.. ..on the surface this thread looks like it has strayed from the original topic. But the more I think about things the more I see components of the different folklore in our lodge. Sun, Stars, snakes, beehives, ladders, pinecones, pommegranates, corn, water, elementals etc etc. A recent exercise of mine was to look for similarities between the Cherokee and Maori legends with those of the Australian Aboriginal. Look what I found in one Aboriginal myth ... They could see him, some little distance away on the farther side, lying at the foot of a tall gum tree. They were on the point of turning back when they saw a coal-black figure, half man half beast, dropping from the branches of the tree and stooping over the man who was lying there. They shouted a warning, but were too far away for him to hear, even if he were awake. The black monster picked up the inert body, carried it up into the branches and disappeared. They could only think that the tree trunk was hollow and that the monster had retreated to its home with his lifeless burden.
One event succeeded another with bewildering rapidity. A puff of smoke billowed from the tree. The two frightened observers heard a rending sound as the tree lifted itself from the ground, its roots snapping one by one, and soared across the river, rising as it took a course to the south. As it passed by they had a momentary glimpse of two large, glaring eyes within its shadow, and two white cockatoos with frantically flapping wings, trying to catch up with the flying tree, straining to reach the shelter of its branches. www.crystalinks.com/wandjina.jpg
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Post by LorrB on May 13, 2011 11:06:32 GMT 9.5
I checked out the photos of other aboriginal people around the world... they all look remarkably similar to the Ainu/Aborigine/Cherokee...
Re poles, mgc ... don't know. Will check it out.
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Post by LorrB on May 13, 2011 11:30:02 GMT 9.5
Gods in lodge God in lodge..
“When two or more are gathered in my name, I am there.” Matthew 18:20.
If God is in each of us (and all that is about us), why the two or more bit?
Can a lodge be more beneficial/powerful/energetic/useful when more members attend (harmoniously)?
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Post by paul on May 13, 2011 12:33:51 GMT 9.5
Can a lodge be more beneficial/powerful/energetic/useful when more member attend (harmoniously)? Perhaps 7 or more might make it perfect
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Post by LorrB on May 13, 2011 13:46:07 GMT 9.5
Why?
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Post by paul on May 13, 2011 14:12:50 GMT 9.5
That is a quote from the ritual. It is a reference to the 7 officers in the nearest Temple in the Heavens (Logoi of the 7 sacred planets) entering an earthly temple.
The "or more" is probably an acknowledgement of humans being present also. (Or it may be a prescient knowledge of there now being another sacred planet)
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Post by mgc on May 14, 2011 7:33:55 GMT 9.5
8 planets if u dont count pluto.. 10 if u count the sun and moon as "planet" 12 if u count the above + pluto and ceres millions if u count all objects in the solar system..
what makes a planet "sacred"?
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Post by paul on May 14, 2011 8:38:31 GMT 9.5
what makes a planet "sacred"? "Basically it might be said that a planet is regarded as "sacred" when its informing spiritual Life has taken five of the major cosmic initiations and that a "non-sacred" planet is one whose planetary Logos has not taken these initiations" www.ngsm.org/aabdk/bk/astrology/astr1178.htmlThe recent change of "consciousness" in the Logos of Earth, seems to have been triggered by a shift in that of the Solar Logos - at which time He took his turn in the Chair of the next higher Temple in the Heavens
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Post by mgc on May 14, 2011 9:30:53 GMT 9.5
what is a planetary logos and how does it evolve?
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Post by paul on May 14, 2011 9:47:11 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on May 16, 2011 9:59:20 GMT 9.5
That is a quote from the ritual. ... which is shorthand for "I know that" ...
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Post by LorrB on May 18, 2011 12:58:58 GMT 9.5
"Is it not written in your law...I said You are gods?"
- Jesus, in John 10:33-34
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Post by paul on May 18, 2011 13:06:35 GMT 9.5
Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men,
Presumably this speech was not addressed to humans
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Post by LorrB on May 18, 2011 13:28:18 GMT 9.5
Psa 82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High
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ok - now I am interested. Who was saying what and what does "all the foundation of the earth are out of course" mean?
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Post by paul on May 18, 2011 15:38:34 GMT 9.5
God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: 2 "How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? [Selah] 3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked." 5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 I say, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; 7 nevertheless, you shall die like men, and fall like any prince."
Here the chief god (asserted by the scribe to be JHVH) is in his council of gods, he
- castigates them for being biased judges - describes (all?) humans as walking in darkness while the foundations of the earth are shaken - tells the gods that they will die like men.
It may be that several events are combined by the scribe including devastating earth changes (e.g. they are afraid also of what is high, and terrors are in the way;)
The comment about dying like men is significant as the gods in Sumer needed the Bread of Life and the Water of Life to avoid dying (under this aging Sun?)
Could the chief god be denying the gods their food as a punishment? There is no text about punishment here, but there may be in other traditions e.g. Shemyaza. However, the scribe would want to build up his god, so the lack of punishment suggests that loss of immortality was not induced by the chief god.
Perhaps there was some failure in the society of the gods and now they are unruly and not just and the production of the food of the gods has failed. With the loss of technical expertise, the gods may have been trapped on Earth to die here. I seem to recall the body of at least one god being stored in the Middle East. (Marduk?)
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