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Post by paul on May 8, 2011 6:22:29 GMT 9.5
According to traditional accounts around the world the gods travelled mainly through space and air and occasionally by sea.
Given the similarity of names and characteristics, it seems simpler to consider that there was only one set of gods.
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Post by mgc on May 9, 2011 8:58:10 GMT 9.5
i found your only xample not satisfying
and ive checked some of the other stuff:
according to some sources, these were made in the 1980's
havnt seen any yet..
not from what ive seen..
if im not mistaken, the celts were making those long before the phoenicians got there..
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Post by paul on May 9, 2011 9:14:06 GMT 9.5
If you are satisfied then you have no need to inquire further
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Post by mgc on May 9, 2011 9:24:22 GMT 9.5
if u dont have more convincing xamples of gods moving about as if theyre beings of flesh and blood, i dont feel the need to inquire further..
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Post by LorrB on May 9, 2011 13:30:14 GMT 9.5
What about all the gods who begat and begot all over the place? And their sons mating with the local inhabitants (according to the Bible.)
You might also check out the Puranas, Vedas, Codex Vaticanus. Full of gods who came to dissipate knowledge and help with rebuilding after the deluge.
Google these
Zishwezi Nommo Quetzalcoatl Viracocha Wandjina (related to Solomon's Jinn-Djin-Genie-Genius?) Huang-Di
The Cherokee believe their forebears came from the Pleiades The Hopi believe they came from Mars (if I remember correctly) In Japan Emperors claim to descent from dragon gods that came from the sky
Check out the ancient fearbears of Wales and Ireland.
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Post by LorrB on May 9, 2011 13:33:25 GMT 9.5
Aboriginal actor-historian Ben Blakenley tells of "The Legend of the Silver Bird", "Long long ago, far back in the Dream Time, a great red coloured egg (spaceship) came down from the skies. It tried to land safely on the ground but broke (crash landed). Out of it emerged white-skinned culture-heroes (gods) and their children."
"The children's elders soon died, either through their old age or because they could not accustom themselves to our atmosphere. The children however were young and able to adapt more easily to their new surroundings. They carved and painted the likenesses of their parents upon cave walls to perpetrate their memory. In time the great red colored egg rusted away until its remains had merged with the ground, thus creating the red soil of Central Australia. The children of the culture heroes who came from the sky grew in numbers until they eventually populated the whole land, their skins turning black due to the hot climate."
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Post by LorrB on May 9, 2011 13:43:44 GMT 9.5
... and the Hebrews came out of Egypt maybe bringing His Peace with them. Some say that the story of Solomon was hijacked from Egypt. And why do we honour a man who, though admired for his wisdom in his youth died as a king whose sin, including idolatry and turning away from God, leads to the kingdom being torn in two during the reign of his son Rehoboam?
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Post by LorrB on May 9, 2011 13:48:14 GMT 9.5
Did these angels belong the the Workers Union I wonder. Angels also help out Solomon in building the Temple; though not by choice. The edifice was, according to rabbinical legend, throughout miraculously constructed, the large, heavy stones rising to and settling in their respective places of themselves. The general opinion of the Rabbis is that Solomon hewed the stones by means of a shamir, a mythical worm whose mere touch cleft rocks. According to Midrash Tehillim, the shamir was brought from paradise by Solomon's eagle; but most of the rabbis state that Solomon was informed of the worm's haunts by Asmodeus. The shamir had been entrusted by the prince of the sea to the mountain cock alone, and the cock had sworn to guard it well, but Solomon's men found the bird's nest, and covered it with glass. When the bird returned, it used the shamir to break the glass, whereupon the men scared the bird, causing it to drop the worm, which the men could then bring to Solomon.
Shamir = Drill or Laser Bird = Micro jet man
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Post by paul on May 9, 2011 14:05:56 GMT 9.5
And why do we honour a man who, though admired for his wisdom in his youth died as a king whose sin, including idolatry and turning away from God, It certainly is odd that Solomon was granted wisdom by his god but later lost it. He apparently lost that wisdom when he followed the gods of his wives. This could be seen as a teaching device to denigrate women and denigrate other gods. Also about that time Shekinah (she who dwells in a tent) is written out of the OT by referring to her as "the glory of the Lord" (i.e. his better half) and later considering that his glory must be a spiritual emanation. Of course the Shekinah remains with the Israelites after the departure of their god. This has parallels with the Holy Spirit of the New Testament. I am suspicious therefore that our conventional account of Solomon is carefully constructed to meet political and theological needs. I leave aside the complete absence of any evidence for the kingdom of Solomon - unless it was another place and another era under another king.
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Post by paul on May 9, 2011 14:11:43 GMT 9.5
Shamir = Drill or Laser Bird = Micro jet man The first 2 letters of Shamir (Shin Mem) spell Shem - a name or as Sitchin would tell it, a flying craft. I note therefore with interest the presence of a flying bird in the account of the Shamir.
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Post by mgc on May 10, 2011 20:27:11 GMT 9.5
What about all the gods who begat and begot all over the place? And their sons mating with the local inhabitants (according to the Bible.) You might also check out the Puranas, Vedas, Codex Vaticanus. Full of gods who came to dissipate knowledge and help with rebuilding after the deluge. Google these Zishwezi Nommo Quetzalcoatl Viracocha Wandjina (related to Solomon's Jinn-Djin-Genie-Genius?) Huang-Di The Cherokee believe their forebears came from the Pleiades The Hopi believe they came from Mars (if I remember correctly) In Japan Emperors claim to descent from dragon gods that came from the sky Check out the ancient fearbears of Wales and Ireland. if they had children, their reproductive system and dna must be compatible with the locals.. this would lead me to the assumption they were mere humans.. superior knowledge is practicly indistinguishable from magic or godlike powers.. any1 smart enough to invent a loom must therefor be a god? the fact that those 3 claim to originate from very different locations (and still wind up looking roughly similar), could be a clue to the accuracy of their claim.. if aliens would have landed and produce offspring with the locals, 1 would xpect to find traces.. research into dna hasnt come up with outworldish strings (far as i know).. couldnt find fearbears..
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Post by LorrB on May 11, 2011 9:23:55 GMT 9.5
Amer-Indians resemble Japanese? The indigenous japanese, the Ainu, resemble Australian aboriginals. Just found the photo below... the Ainu don't resemble the Japanese - how interesting.
Not only was their hunting-gathering economy vastly different from that of the neighboring Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese, who had been agriculturalists for several millennia, but they spoke a language of their own, and certain physical characteristics distinguished them from their neighbors.
Among the rich and varied Ainu religious beliefs and practices, the bear ceremony is perhaps the most important religious ceremony among both the Sakhalin and Hokkaidô Ainu, for whom the bear represents the supreme deity in disguise. From the Ainu perspective, the bear ceremony is a "funeral ritual" for the bear. Its purpose is to send the soul of the bear back to the mountains through a proper ritual so the soul will be reborn as a bear and revisit the Ainu with gifts of meat and fur.
Read more: www.everyculture.com/East-Southeast-Asia/Ainu-Religion-and-Expressive-Culture.html#ixzz1LzlD1HU5
Wonder if their 'thing' for bears has anything to do with The Great Bear in the heavens?
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Post by LorrB on May 11, 2011 9:24:34 GMT 9.5
Astronomy definition The Hebrews were devout students of the wonders of the starry firmanent (Amos 5:8; Ps. 19). In the Book of Job, which is the oldest book of the Bible in all probability, the constellations are distinguished and named. Mention is made of the "morning star" (Rev. 2:28; comp. Isa. 14:12), the "seven stars" and "Pleiades," "Orion," "Arcturus," the "Great Bear" (Amos 5:8; Job 9:9; 38:31), "the crooked serpent," Draco (Job 26:13), the Dioscuri, or Gemini, "Castor and Pollux" (Acts 28:11). The stars were called "the host of heaven" (Isa. 40:26; Jer. 33:22). The oldest divisions of time were mainly based on the observation of the movements of the heavenly bodies, the "ordinances of heaven" (Gen. 1:14-18; Job 38:33; Jer. 31:35; 33:25). Such observations led to the division of the year into months and the mapping out of the appearances of the stars into twelve portions, which received from the Greeks the name of the "zodiac." The word "Mazzaroth" (Job 38:32) means, as the margin notes, "the twelve signs" of the zodiac. Astronomical observations were also necessary among the Jews in order to the fixing of the proper time for sacred ceremonies, the "new moons," the "passover," etc. Many allusions are found to the display of God's wisdom and power as seen in the starry heavens (Ps. 8; 19:1-6; Isa. 51:6, etc.) dictionary.reference.com/browse/astronomy
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Post by mgc on May 11, 2011 10:01:47 GMT 9.5
roughly similar, yeah.. u could prolly trace their dna back to the group that took the long southern route (island hopping).. the japanese prolly came directly from the west and therefor the 2 groups dont look xactly the same.. however, assuming they still have a common ancestor somewhere in africa, it could be interesting to see what caused the mutations that make them appear as they do now..
suffices to say my money wouldnt be on aliens interbreeding with either group..
do they call it ursa major like we do? (or something with bear in it?).. imo u need quite a lot of imagination to see a bear in that constellation btw..
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Post by LorrB on May 11, 2011 13:29:48 GMT 9.5
Question: How come if we all came from the same source we ended up with black, brown, yellow, red and white races? And don't say the weather. With little thought you can see it doesn't stack up.
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Post by Henka on May 11, 2011 13:34:02 GMT 9.5
It's a function of evolution.
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Post by paul on May 11, 2011 14:05:01 GMT 9.5
It's a function of evolution. The evidence for evolution is missing links for every species. Thus there seems to be no species (of millions?) for which there is a specimen for each proposed evolutionary step. This could be seen as a difficulty. Worse still is the evidence of the various "explosions" of new species. Perhaps other theories fit the data better.
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Post by Henka on May 11, 2011 14:50:56 GMT 9.5
I know... alien intervention.
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Post by paul on May 11, 2011 14:56:51 GMT 9.5
The evidence certainly suggests to me that some sort of intelligence is involved.
Perhaps the terraforming was by our ancestors.
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Post by mgc on May 12, 2011 2:52:44 GMT 9.5
Question: How come if we all came from the same source we ended up with black, brown, yellow, red and white races? And don't say the weather. With little thought you can see it doesn't stack up. it doesnt? xplain pls.. there r a lot of factors that can change dna, amongst which xposure to (solar)radiation.. evidence for dna mutation is easiest to find in lifeforms that reproduce in a short timespan (like i.e. a virus).. a virus that doesnt adapt is easily dealt with by our immune system..
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