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Post by sammy on Jul 4, 2014 7:30:20 GMT 9.5
Sammy Again the same question is dumped out as > What this Free Mason did, and his stated reason why he built Coral Castle Remains unaddressed! So if I ask an obviously (¿\?) easy to answer question can any say why he said he did it? I would say he did it because he could, and he directed it toward a lost love (I.E. he knew how to). This seemed to be the major focus along his life's path of a lost love. He did not claim to do it for others, so his goal was not to teach, but simply to build and give to her.
The knowledge though. It could also be something not a secret lost, but a knowledge lost that leads to secrets of thought. After all the Egyptians did not teach him personally, his claim was "I figured it out". I believe we have discussed this aspect in another thread, of certain knowledge unlocking thoughts.
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Post by sammy on Jul 4, 2014 7:30:37 GMT 9.5
> Reading through some of the wiki im sure I have heard some of these stories. But I cant say I've read the book. Do you know if there is a free E version? I can't find a free ebook version in English, but there is a preview on google books, also called MonkeyIll check it out either way thanks!
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Post by paul on Jul 4, 2014 7:34:09 GMT 9.5
Imagining myself replacing the man wasn't quite what I expected. instead of replacing him with myself, he turned and faced me. I inquired to his road block and he pointed left and right. From earlier conversations I chose to do it again from his right, seeing the light shine on him from the right with the shadow extending out to the left. I could go up to him infront or anywhere around him at this point. The face seemed kind of funny looking in the light though, the definition was pale and simplistic lines like a cartoon almost or plastic. So the scene is still live and you may enter it at any time. Since the face was unusual you may like to make the man in the scene may be made subject to experiment to determine his nature and origin. For example: step into the scene and put a sign next to the man saying: Angelic. See what happens to the sign.
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Post by sammy on Jul 4, 2014 10:27:20 GMT 9.5
Imagining myself replacing the man wasn't quite what I expected. instead of replacing him with myself, he turned and faced me. I inquired to his road block and he pointed left and right. From earlier conversations I chose to do it again from his right, seeing the light shine on him from the right with the shadow extending out to the left. I could go up to him infront or anywhere around him at this point. The face seemed kind of funny looking in the light though, the definition was pale and simplistic lines like a cartoon almost or plastic. So the scene is still live and you may enter it at any time. Since the face was unusual you may like to make the man in the scene may be made subject to experiment to determine his nature and origin. For example: step into the scene and put a sign next to the man saying: Angelic. See what happens to the sign.
Angelic : he shrugged (like similar but different, iffy on description I think)
Demonic : BIG no
Help? : yes
My guide? : same response as angelic
Making the paper a open blank to him though I saw the word "progress".
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Post by paul on Jul 4, 2014 11:15:27 GMT 9.5
So you have an active sponsor. That does not surprise me as there have been signs in your posts.
Now that you have a system for conversation with your sponsor you may find your progress accelerates.
Try: sea god
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Post by LorrB on Jul 4, 2014 11:43:07 GMT 9.5
> Why would we think that ancient Masonry was familiar with the English letter G? Unless of course, God was English! I have proposed that the use of the letter G in the square and compass could have derived from the Ancient Egyptian representation of Amun, not an original proposition however. Sol - Amun.
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Post by LorrB on Jul 4, 2014 11:47:08 GMT 9.5
Back to topic ...
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Post by sammy on Jul 4, 2014 11:47:31 GMT 9.5
So you have an active sponsor. That does not surprise me as there have been signs in your posts. Now that you have a system for conversation with your sponsor you may find your progress accelerates. Try: sea god
It would seem so HAHA.
Odd one, not sure it translates since I don't know the context. Initial response was no. Then the face turned into a V.
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Post by sammy on Jul 4, 2014 11:52:24 GMT 9.5
HAHA
How is it Sol Amun translated into a G/God? I am curious. Even the shape is strange to me. Like a trajectory or orbit : G g
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Post by paul on Jul 4, 2014 12:16:27 GMT 9.5
>Initial response was no. Then the face turned into a V.
Perhaps: Cosmic Seagod
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:52:40 GMT 9.5
>>Sol - Amun. I've seen a depiction of J&B where the Moon is central focus, in this image the compass and square were reversed, the compass points were upward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 17:24:49 GMT 9.5
I understand that Greek lodges may hang a Gamma in the ceiling rather than a G. The G is variously supposed to stand for God or Geometry or Gnosis. This seems logical but rather speculative. Why would we think that ancient Masonry was familiar with the English letter G? Unless of course, God was English! Paul Foster Case in his book Masonic Letter G, "Its Greek equivalent is the initial of Gaia, the earth mother, eldest born of Chaos, whose name is the root of the noun geometria. Gimel, the Hebrew correspondence to G, is the initial of gadol, majesty, and of gebur, strong, words used to designate the Deity throughout the Hebrew sacred writings. Were nothing else to be said for it, it seems to us these facts would make the letter G a sufficiently universal, as well as sufficiently ancient, symbol of the Grand Architect. As the equivalent of the Greek gamma, moreover, G is not only the initial of Gaia, the earth mother, and of geometria, the science by which her powers are measured, but it has yet another Masonic allusion. The shape of the letter gamma is Γ , obviously neither more nor less than a mason's square. From the Hebrew equivalent of G, however, we shall discover the most important meanings of this ancient symbol. When we have considered the esoteric significance of gimel we shall find, not only that it is the initial of a Rabbinical term borrowed directly from the Greek noun geometria, and not only that it is the initial of two Hebrew words frequently applied to God, but also that the letter gimel itself is regarded by the wise men of Israel as being the alphabetical sign of the sacred wisdom which is founded on the science of geometry. We shall find, moreover, that gimel is directly connected with the triangular delta favored by Brother Mc Clenachan" G is also the first letter of geometry in Sanskrit, Hebrew, Greek and English and surely more languages. Interesting that we have geometry, Greek geometria "measurement of earth or land; geometry," from comb. form of ge "earth, land" (see Gaia) + -metria (see -metry). Gaia a goddess, and metry, same root as mater and matrix?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 17:31:25 GMT 9.5
In a Masonic context the 2 points are placed under or on a square. Arrange the items in various ways and see if there is energy present for some arrangements. Probably better not to use a plastic square. Metal or wood is more effective. The compasses are dividers. Placing one point on a G in the East? And the other point on D in the West?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 18:39:33 GMT 9.5
HAHA
How is it Sol Amun translated into a G/God? I am curious. Even the shape is strange to me. Like a trajectory or orbit : G g
Sol Amun, Solomon, Sol = Sun, Amun-Ra in this period (16th to 11th centuries BC) held the position of transcendental, self-created[2] creator deity "par excellence". One way of looking at it this, as I previously mentioned, Amun was often depicted as the hieroglyph, note the triangle in the centre. which can be seen here
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Post by paul on Jul 4, 2014 18:54:50 GMT 9.5
In a Masonic context the 2 points are placed under or on a square. Arrange the items in various ways and see if there is energy present for some arrangements. Probably better not to use a plastic square. Metal or wood is more effective. The compasses are dividers. Placing one point on a G in the East? And the other point on D in the West? Perhaps it is worth trying the originally proposed experiment with the square and compasses before introducing letters
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Post by paul on Jul 4, 2014 19:09:17 GMT 9.5
I would be wary of taking too literally the descriptions given by the followers of Amun.
The followers of gods tend to overstate the status of their god.
Consider for example the god Jehovah who was variously described as leader of the council of gods (Elohim) and as the creator of the universe. These two descriptions might seem to be contradictory.
And in Deuteronomy 32:8 we discover Jehovah only gets the people he is given by the Most High
8In the Most High causing nations to inherit, In His separating sons of Adam — He setteth up the borders of the peoples By the number of the sons of Israel.
9For Jehovah’s portion [is] His people, Jacob [is] the line of His inheritance.
Thus they were his chosen people but not chosen by him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 19:17:17 GMT 9.5
> Perhaps it is worth trying the originally proposed experiment with the square and compasses before introducing letters I will do so, I just need to construct the wooden square first, I couldn't find one to buy that I liked. Which got me thinking, on how I can create one with the correct 90 degree angle, which comes back to the compass, to me this is interesting, as one of the tools can be created using the other tool, but not, I think, vice versa.
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Post by paul on Jul 4, 2014 19:21:40 GMT 9.5
>how I can create one with the correct 90 degree angle, which comes back to the compass, to me this is interesting
Draw a straight line and use the compasses to bisect the line
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 21:33:21 GMT 9.5
... Hmmm that is a bit odd then the rope didn't make it into the symbols then... Here is some rope A History of Geometrical Methods By Julian Lowell Coolidge The earliest Indian mathematics is found in the Sulvasutras or Sulba-Sutras, 'Rules of the cord'. Let the reader note this is cord, not chord ; it is a question of geometrical constructions effected by means of rope-stretching, a concept familiar also to the Egyptians. The Egyptian word “Hardenonaptai” is where we get “Rope Stretchers” from.
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Post by sammy on Jul 4, 2014 22:42:27 GMT 9.5
HAHA
How is it Sol Amun translated into a G/God? I am curious. Even the shape is strange to me. Like a trajectory or orbit : G g
Sol Amun, Solomon, Sol = Sun, Amun-Ra in this period (16th to 11th centuries BC) held the position of transcendental, self-created[2] creator deity "par excellence". One way of looking at it this, as I previously mentioned, Amun was often depicted as the hieroglyph, note the triangle in the centre. which can be seen here
Thanks to everyone for the lessons on G! Very interesting stuff and a lot more then I expected.
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