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Post by paul on Jun 4, 2017 8:25:34 GMT 9.5
I was reading through an old thread and found this:
"I have mentioned on some threads the idea that dreams are often from other time paths. Usually I look at the dream as an energy field and move it around across an image of parallel time paths until I find a match.
This morning I had a dream about a bureaucracy with several executives I knew from this life. There was a power shift occurring. When I awoke I tried to put the dream into a time path but could find no match including on this 3D timeline.
Then I got the thought to move the dream field around a sphere, and there it matched to a place in the sphere, just behind me and a bit below.
There is some sort of spherical energy structure - analogous to a 3D form of the Tree of Life - but I have no naming concept.
I just tried connecting the GAOTU to the sphere and He/She only takes up the front of the sphere and under my feet. The dream however exists in another part of the sphere.
And as I type this I will get a naming ..... The Sphere of Existence. When I call it that, the GAOTU fills it all.
Perhaps that is not quite the right name. Try again...The Sphere of Beingness. That is better - back to the GAOTU filling the front.
So then, how did that dream come from Beingness rather than from Existence?"
So it seems from the above that Beingness underpins Existence and that we might have ongoing access to the structure of Beingness.
And just now I tried again with the Sphere of Beingness and the GAOTU again only fills the front of the sphere, not to the top, and under my feet.
What Beings then provide the rest of the Sphere of Beingness?
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Post by fjrogers on Jun 4, 2017 15:29:57 GMT 9.5
A state of 'being' is eternal and has always been with no beginning and no ending. A state of existence may be more of a man-made state or concept.
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Post by paul on Jul 13, 2018 9:44:36 GMT 9.5
Some of us who have been posted to this planet and this species may like to spend some time in the Sphere of Beingness. The intent connects to our nature before being immeshed in Existence
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Post by sammy on Jul 14, 2018 1:27:26 GMT 9.5
I was reading through an old thread and found this: - analogous to a 3D form of the Tree of Life - but I have no naming concept. I just tried connecting the GAOTU to the sphere and He/She only takes up the front of the sphere and under my feet. The dream however exists in another part of the sphere. And as I type this I will get a naming ..... The Sphere of Existence. When I call it that, the GAOTU fills it all. Perhaps that is not quite the right name. Try again...The Sphere of Beingness. That is better - back to the GAOTU filling the front. So then, how did that dream come from Beingness rather than from Existence?" So it seems from the above that Beingness underpins Existence and that we might have ongoing access to the structure of Beingness. And just now I tried again with the Sphere of Beingness and the GAOTU again only fills the front of the sphere, not to the top, and under my feet. What Beings then provide the rest of the Sphere of Beingness?Sounds allot like the tree of life squared on my most recent diagram of -0+. |
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Post by sammy on Jul 14, 2018 6:23:19 GMT 9.5
This design is only top and bottom but could also be squared top, bottom, left, and right. Although I have yet to do this combination, maybe red and blue for left and right. Perhaps I will look into it. |
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Post by sammy on Jul 14, 2018 6:32:54 GMT 9.5
I didn't do it in 3d like the atomic tree of life, but I did make a squared image out of the points quite some time ago. |
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Post by paul on Jul 14, 2018 6:52:52 GMT 9.5
>Sounds allot like the tree of life squared
The test I used was placing the Great Architect of the Universe into the structure. In the Sphere of Beingness the GAOTU only takes up part of the sphere.
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Post by fjrogers on Jul 14, 2018 16:05:22 GMT 9.5
I certainly see what you mean by the tree of life squared. Every point could be squared.
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Post by sammy on Jul 16, 2018 8:49:45 GMT 9.5
>Sounds allot like the tree of life squared The test I used was placing the Great Architect of the Universe into the structure. In the Sphere of Beingness the GAOTU only takes up part of the sphere. I just see consuming light when I do this. This makes sense to me though since i see the creator as the upper/upright segment more associated to being and creation. A better description would be the opposite of all consuming darkness. |
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Post by sammy on Jul 16, 2018 8:51:00 GMT 9.5
I certainly see what you mean by the tree of life squared. Every point could be squared. Ya it was pretty fun doing all this! |
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Post by paul on Jul 16, 2018 15:23:45 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 17, 2018 1:54:05 GMT 9.5
From the perspective given in the link, this would be like a worse case scenario. But extremes in either light or dark is very bad, it washes out the object.
Think of it this way, like a planet forming around a sun. The mass collects creating a surface to reflect the light, but this also creates a surface that light cannot pass through creating darkness. Its not that one needs the other or influences the other, they are both a consequence of existence (an object).
I have struggled some times to keep the creator as light and not both light and dark (top and bottom).The left and right would be conscious life energy influences. This would also explain (to me) "wrath of God" also coexisting with "eternal love".
Its some thoughts anyway.
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Post by paul on Jul 17, 2018 6:35:51 GMT 9.5
The somewhat obscure concept Tzimtzum is useful in considering the simultaneous process of manifestation (energy becoming darker) and return to the Source (energy becoming lighter). The human, in order to perform its function, needs to maintain a cyclical equilibrium in its use of the flows of light and dark. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TzimtzumThe Tzimtzum as an intelligence can be considered in a Christian context as "the revelation of the Word" |
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Post by sammy on Jul 17, 2018 9:01:32 GMT 9.5
The somewhat obscure concept Tzimtzum is useful in considering the simultaneous process of manifestation (energy becoming darker) and return to the Source (energy becoming lighter). The human, in order to perform its function, needs to maintain a cyclical equilibrium in its use of the flows of light and dark. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TzimtzumThe Tzimtzum as an intelligence can be considered in a Christian context as "the revelation of the Word" Mmmmmm brain candy! I would say Tzimtzum is the closest thing I have seen to relate to my theory. I have allot of reading up to do on this subject before I have any real response, I will start a new thread once I have but... "Because the tzimtzum results in the "empty space" in which spiritual and physical Worlds and ultimately, free will can exist, God is often referred to as "Ha-Makom" (המקום lit. "the Place", "the Omnipresent") in Rabbinic literature ("He is the Place of the World, but the World is not His Place"[1]). In Kabbalistic interpretation, this describes the paradox of simultaneous Divine presence and absence within the vacuum and resultant Creation." Spot on! A sun producing energy in a field of engulfing darkness, thus creating space (perspective). Perspective gives in to focus (planets) resulting in a eventual conclusion (life). You cannot talk with our mouths to this procedure (that are exactly like our own ways of thinking). You cannot make it take a test to measure awareness, and even with not ever seeing it with my eyes, or hearing it with my ears. This leaves no other option other then to say it is intelligent. The root (I would say) of our own brains abilities. The step after light/dark is life/death. In the same way, one cannot exist without the other. For us to have known we are alive, we also will have to know life will lead to death. Life with no death would lose purpose, motivation, inspiration, it would be like having food for eternity but its all hot dogs. You would get sick of it or just blend into it. This is kinda more surface reasons, but for theory it would just be a natural reaction to life. The opposing force in the polarity. You cant create any one thing without creating two in result. Like in math whatever you do on one side of the line is also done to the other in opposite. The next step mind/body etc... |
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Post by sammy on Jul 17, 2018 12:34:45 GMT 9.5
The step after light/dark is life/death. In the same way, one cannot exist without the other. For us to have known we are alive, we also will have to know life will lead to death. Life with no death would lose purpose, motivation, inspiration, it would be like having food for eternity but its all hot dogs. You would get sick of it or just blend into it. This is kinda more surface reasons, but for theory it would just be a natural reaction to life. The opposing force in the polarity. You cant create any one thing without creating two in result. Like in math whatever you do on one side of the line is also done to the other in opposite. I felt this could use some more clarification. Some might be wondering if were gonna just turn into some kind of eternal hot dog. To avoid the hot dog, life/death had a larger purpose. Memories. A eternal body would not go hot dog if it was full of memories of self awareness. The memories would give perspective on the field of independent activity, like free will, independent from other mass but still "of the same". |
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Post by paul on Jul 17, 2018 12:46:04 GMT 9.5
>The step after light/dark is life/death
True in a conceptual exposition but it seems to me that the experience of life and death arise from the pulsation of dark and light. The dark outflow pushes us into form and therefore into death while the returning light allows us to escape density and death - until we are sent forth again.
In a more fundamental sense Life includes both the out-breath to dark separation and the in-breath to light unity. Thus the Source of All incarnates in manifest and unmanifest Existence
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Post by sammy on Jul 17, 2018 13:07:37 GMT 9.5
>The step after light/dark is life/death True in a conceptual exposition but it seems to me that the experience of life and death arise from the pulsation of dark and light. The dark outflow pushes us into form and therefore into death while the returning light allows us to escape density and death - until we are sent forth again. In a more fundamental sense Life includes both the out-breath to dark separation and the in-breath to light unity. Thus the Source of All incarnates in manifest and unmanifest Existence Absolutely this is possible. At this point of the theory though, anything past light/dark leading to life/death is mostly speculation. A new human begins as ejaculate (perceived as positive or light), but done in a "dark place" ahem... The dark place has an egg (seen similar as a light to the sperm). So on and so on. All we can say for sure is it requires both. |
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Post by sammy on Jul 18, 2018 3:52:16 GMT 9.5
Another thing i found interesting, is that the only point that is the same in the squared version is "malkuth".
"Unlike the other nine sephirot, it is an attribute of God which does not emanate from God directly. Rather it emanates from God's creation—when that creation reflects and evinces God's glory from within itself."
Applying this to the theory, only God's creations can unite all sides. By reflecting and emanating God's glory through ourselves.
Malkuth is also refered to as "the kingdom".
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Post by paul on Jul 18, 2018 7:23:36 GMT 9.5
>it emanates from God's creation This is an interesting idea and introduces the proposition that the manifested Creation has something to contribute. I would not however take the exact proposition about Malkuth too literally. As you will recall: "And God saw the light, that it was good" biblehub.com/jps/genesis/1.htmFive times God looks to see if his creation is good. This tells us that he was not doing too well previously. From that we might wonder if in some creations Malkuth was not the lowest point. And of course there is the dark tree. "The Qliphoth/Qlippoth/Qlifot or Kelipot ... literally "Peels", "Shells" or "Husks"...are the representation of evil or impure spiritual forces in Jewish mysticism, the polar opposites of the holy Sefirot" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QliphothWhile it is called the dark tree this is not an accurate use of the word dark. The dark tree is more correctly an energy structure used to map where parts of Creation have gone wrong. As noted above dark energy is a natural part of Existence but the dark tree is a faulty part of Existence I do not recommend any exploration of the Qliphoth. Such practitioners do not live happily ever after. |
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Post by sammy on Jul 18, 2018 7:49:53 GMT 9.5
>it emanates from God's creation This is an interesting idea and introduces the proposition that the manifested Creation has something to contribute. I would not however take the exact proposition about Malkuth too literally. As you will recall: "And God saw the light, that it was good" biblehub.com/jps/genesis/1.htmFive times God looks to see if his creation is good. This tells us that he was not doing too well previously. From that we might wonder if in some creations Malkuth was not the lowest point. And of course there is the dark tree. "The Qliphoth/Qlippoth/Qlifot or Kelipot ... literally "Peels", "Shells" or "Husks"...are the representation of evil or impure spiritual forces in Jewish mysticism, the polar opposites of the holy Sefirot" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QliphothWhile it is called the dark tree this is not an accurate use of the word dark. The dark tree is more correctly an energy structure used to map where parts of Creation have gone wrong. As noted above dark energy is a natural part of Existence but the dark tree is a faulty part of Existence I do not recommend any exploration of the Qliphoth. Such practitioners do not live happily ever after.
I do not mean malkuth is where everything starts. More rather where it all meets, the same space or thought regardless the side. Being the center point of the diagram it is the same for any polarity.
I would not suggest that line of thinking either. Good tree vs. bad tree is WAYYY too open to interpretation and would end very badly for anyone trying to fill those blanks.
"Five times God looks to see if his creation is good."
Again this suggests light/dark is not associated to the existence of God. As I was saying earlier I ponder him being both light and dark. Thank you for these quotes though, as it also states light and dark were a creation and also subject to malkuth (emanating God's glory). We know this to be true for light, but this is suggesting equal potential for dark in a positive outcome.
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