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Post by stewartedwards on Apr 13, 2013 16:51:44 GMT 9.5
Anyway, the essential point is that the light from the stars contains the patterns for unfoldment of many beings including the brethren and it is the IPM's job to draw in and anchor those energies. Thats interesting Paul. As I am guessing you are aware I have been visualising such things for many years now. For those who can't visualise such things I have (in my dreams if it helps you), since around the millenium, been visualising stellar energy flows that were a bit wayward towards this planet and focused them together, into a coherent beam. This beam took quite some time to focus onto the ancient crystal grid of this planet, but which is now reenergising, ever so gently, this planet. It was quite exciting dreaming about it over such a long period of time watching it ever so gently tease awake old energy paths. Well in my dreams Paul, it all started with orion, then there was the discernable move towards and melding with Sirius, with finally the Pleiadies joining in. I would be interested in your critical analysis of this.
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Post by paul on Apr 14, 2013 12:02:13 GMT 9.5
>, been visualising stellar energy flows that were a bit wayward towards this planet and focused them together, into a coherent beam. Stewart you might like to take that beam and look around the Earth for cosmic seeds (containers of patterns for unfoldment). Perhaps those stellar flows have complementary structures awaiting activation. > in my dreams Paul, it all started with orion, then there was the discernable move towards and melding with Sirius, with finally the Pleiadies joining in. Can you be specific about what "all" means there? On a humanoid level the god Osiris was supposedly from Orion and his wife Isis was supposedly from Sirius. There is some blending of Isis and Hathor in the Egyptian imagery. The goddess Hathor (literally "house of Horus") is connected to Pleiades through the Seven Hathors www.egyptianmyths.net/hathor.htm There may have been 7 humanoid entities known by the name of their leader - Hathor - that had connections with one of the systems in the Pleiades. (Similarly there were perhaps nine assistants to Sekhmet) We used to have an entity that identified as Osiris turn up to the group meditation a decade ago, but I was always a bit wary. There are of course more profound flows than humanoid colonists. And at the level of the Solar System I would see the flows from the Pleiades as more profound than those from Sirius. I have little contact with Orion, although about 20 years ago Mintaka made its influence felt a couple of times. At the time I had never heard of it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mintaka
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Post by stewartedwards on Apr 14, 2013 17:55:26 GMT 9.5
>, been visualising stellar energy flows that were a bit wayward towards this planet and focused them together, into a coherent beam. Stewart you might like to take that beam and look around the Earth for cosmic seeds (containers of patterns for unfoldment). Perhaps those stellar flows have complementary structures awaiting activation. Interesting thought Paul, until now I have simply enabled the flow by connecting it to the old grid and watching it dust itself off and reeenergise. More of a passive enabling, whereas you are suggesting I should be more active. These dreams took years btw. Orion was the first constellation that gave me personal comfort (and also at least one childhood friend as well as it happens but that is a story in itself) and which I connected with. In my early teens, about the time of puberty I guess. Sirius came along much later probably about the time of the millennium, when I was very lost, and without any detriment to Orion my heart suddenly spoke with Sirius. Then more recently the Plaeidies joined in, though interestingly, and I guess I might be erring a bit here, that strengthened but since I realised that having gained the knowledge I gained I had to turn around and walk back offering signposts and keys to others, just as some had done with me previously, (for those who might not know this involves balancing darkness with the light) the connection with the Plaiedies seems to waver a bit. I assume that this is a result of me erring and accepting to much darkness to make me more effective in our world, but that is just a guess. For those who might think me completely nutty (which indeed I might be) I do know the difference between dreams and reality. However I have come across far to many people who do get comfort in times of need from simply looking up to the stars to ignore this fact of life. The stars do offer comfort for many.
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Post by paul on Apr 14, 2013 18:33:55 GMT 9.5
>Then more recently the Pleiades joined Some New Zealand Maori regard themselves as literal descendants of people from the Pleiades "The Maori new year is marked by the rise of Matariki and the sighting of the next new moon. The pre-dawn rise of Matariki can be seen in the last few days of May every year and the new year is marked at the sighting of the next new moon which occurs during June....... Matariki has two meanings, both referring to a tiny constellation of stars; Mata Riki (Tiny Eyes) and Mata Ariki (Eyes of God)." www.taitokerau.co.nz/matariki.htm
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Post by LorrB on Apr 15, 2013 13:18:35 GMT 9.5
A good start for those interested is gardening done with an intent to cooperate with nature and a contemplative mode of activity. Is this an oblique reference to the Crystalline Grid? Is the Mosaic Pavement likewise?
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Post by paul on Apr 15, 2013 17:03:21 GMT 9.5
Both vertical and horizontal pavements are encountered in the natural garden as well as the rhythmical knocks.
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Post by category error on May 23, 2013 18:10:59 GMT 9.5
The anchor point is in the West where the officer represents the angelic kingdom. Why would the angelic kingdom be in the West? What makes the angelic kingdom suitable to be the anchor point? In what sense is this Ritual for a new Masonry masonic? “Let us be well assured of the matter of fact, before we trouble ourselves with enquiring into the cause.” - Bernard Fontenelle
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Post by paul on May 23, 2013 19:01:24 GMT 9.5
"The inner worlds are indeed a puzzle..." paul
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Post by category error on May 24, 2013 20:05:32 GMT 9.5
"In what sense is this Ritual for a new Masonry masonic?" - category error
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Post by paul on May 24, 2013 21:28:53 GMT 9.5
"In what sense is this Ritual for a new Masonry masonic?" - category error A good question but first we need to understand what is Masonry. Then we can consider whether there is new wine and new bottles.
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Post by category error on May 25, 2013 18:31:05 GMT 9.5
A good question but first we need to understand what is Masonry. My point exactly. “Let us be well assured of the matter of fact, before we trouble ourselves with enquiring into the cause.” - Bernard Fontenelle Why are you jumping the gun?
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Post by paul on May 25, 2013 19:39:14 GMT 9.5
Will you tell us what you think Masonry is?
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Post by stepnwolf on May 26, 2013 0:46:47 GMT 9.5
Will you tell us what you think Masonry is? I wish more people would respond to this question with posts. We can appreciate the character of the Craft in several areas: SOCIAL: It is a social club where Brn meet with like minded people; whether to make contacts for purely business reasons, or to find people with similar interests, like motorcycles or esotericism. EDUCATION: The L. may be the center for continuing education, often in the fields of history and archaeology. Whatever the subject the L. encourages study and the broadening of intellectual horizons. Often BB are unaware of the hidden (read secret) side of the universe until they start philosophizing on the tools of the Craft. PHILANTHROPY: Most LL. reach out into the community to aid the less fortunate. No matter how modest, the very act of giving contributes to the emotional and intellectual growth of the individual. Compassion cannot be developed in a vacuum. Only when emotions extend beyond self can we see the development of compassion. PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT: Any Bro. develops a sense of accomplishment in mastering the task of memorization. In memorizing the work the B. is forced to spend time and effort in an unpleasant task. It does develop character at the same time. The rewards are manifold, not only in intellectual accomplishment, but also in the satisfaction of a job well done. Without naming it as such, the work of the L, its ceremonies of advancement from degree to degree, etc. helps to build the individual into a human being of substance and character. One of the beauties of the Craft has been its flexibility to be all things to all the BB. Rarely would we associate the word flexibility with Freemasonry. Yet the evidence does show an institution that is not only for the nobility or “intellectual workers,” but also for the common man, if he can afford to pay the dues. Very few organizations can boast of such a varied membership. A few members might see the Craft as an elitist group of spiritually-minded people with certain intellectual abilities. I would prefer to have my Masonry with a broad base of mankind who is susceptible to Masonic training whatever his/her station in life.
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Post by ritual on May 26, 2013 18:03:20 GMT 9.5
Will you tell us what you think Masonry is? A peculiar system of morality... I had previously posted that one way our peculiar system may be recognised is by steadfastness in the pursuit of truth and by dispelling ignorance, superstition and tyranny. The several posts appear to have been deleted.
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Post by category error on May 26, 2013 18:06:09 GMT 9.5
A good question but first we need to understand what is Masonry. My point exactly. “Let us be well assured of the matter of fact, before we trouble ourselves with enquiring into the cause.” - Bernard Fontenelle Why are you jumping the gun?
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Post by paul on May 26, 2013 18:28:17 GMT 9.5
>A peculiar system of morality...
So what is peculiar about this system of morality?
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Post by stepnwolf on May 26, 2013 19:32:47 GMT 9.5
Just to muddy the waters a definition of "peculiar" on the web is: belonging exclusively to some person, group, or thing: The arrangement of the L. by that definition is peculiar
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Post by paul on May 26, 2013 19:41:17 GMT 9.5
That hardly muddies the issue. What aspect of Masonic morality is restricted to Masons? If there is none then the morality is not peculiar.
So what is going on?
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Post by jumping the gun on May 26, 2013 19:45:45 GMT 9.5
So what is peculiar about this system of morality? .... one way our peculiar system may be recognised is by steadfastness in the pursuit of truth and by dispelling ignorance, superstition and tyranny....
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Post by paul on May 26, 2013 20:13:27 GMT 9.5
>one way our peculiar system may be recognised is by steadfastness in the pursuit of truth and by dispelling ignorance, superstition and tyranny....
I once asked a lodge full of brethren: I can see the brotherly love and relief but where is the truth in Masonry? No one said anything. So I think pursuit of truth is not so obvious. Take for example the rewriting of Masonic history in the 18th century and even in the 19th.
Dispelling ignorance is not so obvious either in any of the lodges I have visited - even including lodges of research.
Superstition is an interesting aspect - as a careful reading of parts of the VSL will demonstrate.
Tyranny - I can think of quite few lodges opposed to tyranny - of their Grand Lodge
So it may be that Steadfastness what is peculiar to Masonic morality. Even that is not so obvious in declining lodges.
Back to the beginning I suggest: what is peculiar about Masonic morality?
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