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Post by Anthon St. Maarten on Jun 22, 2013 20:54:07 GMT 9.5
“A misleading perception or false belief is increasingly being perpetuated that the unconscious or the intuitive is all that really matters in any spiritual endeavor, and that the conscious, rational, logical, analytical mind is the mortal enemy of spiritual awareness and soul growth.” ― Anthon St. Maarten.
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Post by stepnwolf on Jun 23, 2013 5:39:53 GMT 9.5
“A misleading perception or false belief is increasingly being perpetuated that the unconscious or the intuitive is all that really matters in any spiritual endeavor, and that the conscious, rational, logical, analytical mind is the mortal enemy of spiritual awareness and soul growth.” ― Anthon St. Maarten. How odd! Mr. St. Maarten according to the web is a medium, intuitive consultant and destiny coach, areas where the innocent could easily be bamboozled by the unprincipled. If I wouldn't trust him with my grandmother, how could I trust him as an authority on any subject. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 23, 2013 9:39:38 GMT 9.5
stepnwolf and foxfires are shining very brightly - the posts in the past 24 hours are exceptionally enlightening. Thanks guys.
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Post by stepnwolf on Jun 24, 2013 3:19:21 GMT 9.5
stepnwolf and foxfires are shining very brightly - the posts in the past 24 hours are exceptionally enlightening. Thanks guys. Thank you, Lorr. That shining light is very irregular in my case. It seems to take a heap of dead leaves to get the bonfire going. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 24, 2013 8:27:56 GMT 9.5
 Hot stuff. It is friction that smooths the rough ashlar . . . |
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Post by Ambrose Bierce on Jun 24, 2013 18:16:31 GMT 9.5
“FREEMASONS, n. An order with secret rites, grotesque ceremonies and fantastic costumes, which, originating in the reign of Charles II, among working artisans of London, has been joined successively by the dead of past centuries in unbroken retrogression until now it embraces all the generations of man on the hither side of Adam and is drumming up distinguished recruits among the pre-Creational inhabitants of Chaos and Formless Void. The order was founded at different times by Charlemagne, Julius Caesar, Cyrus, Solomon, Zoroaster, Confucious, Thothmes, and Buddha. Its emblems and symbols have been found in the Catacombs of Paris and Rome, on the stones of the Parthenon and the Chinese Great Wall, among the temples of Karnak and Palmyra and in the Egyptian Pyramids - always by a Freemason.” - Ambrose Bierce.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 24, 2013 19:35:01 GMT 9.5
And so it seems, reading the long list of famous Freemasons regularly trotted out by the male craft. Forget the past I say, get on with building the future!!! Symbols and allegories are just tools ... one could reach a degree of Truth by using the symbols and allegories of Popeye. Olive Oyl et al. And the Wizard of Oz is a veritable minefield, or should I say Mind field. Scarecrow, Lion and Tinman = Wisdom, Strength & Beauty. Who cares if Solomon's Temple was real or not .... that is not the point of the masonic endeavour. MIND is the BUILDER!!! But first we have to set it free. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 25, 2013 9:12:02 GMT 9.5
Didn't understand much of that foxfires ... though it reflects some insights into the symbolism of Oz.
Is this how symbols work?
L Frank Baum, the Oz books author, was a Theosophist I believe. As such I rather suspect he used meditation or prayer to take him to different realms of consciousness, which is good, apparently drugs harm more than the physical body.
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Post by understatement on Jun 25, 2013 18:16:09 GMT 9.5
Didn't understand much of that foxfires ... Understatement. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 26, 2013 8:20:09 GMT 9.5
You crafty devil that did make me laugh. I managed a balance.... a charming mischievous entity who is sometimes full of the proverbial. LOL. (Takes one to know one) |
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Post by Alcyone on Jun 27, 2013 17:38:48 GMT 9.5
Forget the past I say, get on with building the future!!! Is that a promise? No more talk of Pleiadian founders. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 27, 2013 19:42:39 GMT 9.5
Forget the past I say, get on with building the future!!! Is that a promise? No more talk of Pleiadian founders. .... take me to you leader ....  |
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thought word and deed
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Post by thought word and deed on Jun 28, 2013 20:19:18 GMT 9.5
Is that a promise? No more talk of Pleiadian founders. .... take me to you leader .... :D It is I. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 28, 2013 20:53:59 GMT 9.5
... I expected some one taller ... |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 28, 2013 20:55:24 GMT 9.5
...now back to subject?
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There's your problem
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Post by There's your problem on Jun 28, 2013 21:07:38 GMT 9.5
Back on track. Freemasonry is not ancient. |
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Post by LorrB on Jun 28, 2013 22:04:08 GMT 9.5
In my ritual book - in the explanation of the TB it states ...
"The ancient and honourable Society of Freemasons in like manner teaches the highest principles of morality, and inculcates among its genuine professions, the loftiest virtues, by means of symbols.
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Post by Leo Zanelli on Jun 29, 2013 10:15:23 GMT 9.5
In my ritual book - in the explanation of the TB it states ... "The ancient and honourable Society of Freemasons in like manner teaches the highest principles of morality, and inculcates among its genuine professions, the loftiest virtues, by means of symbols. "Ancient" and "time immemorial" can be slithery terms. www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/pragmatic_masonic_history.htmlPlease note: In English law "time immemorial" once means before 6 July 1189. Since 1832 it has meant. "Time whereof the memory of man runneth not to the contrary." |
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Post by stepnwolf on Jun 29, 2013 20:28:57 GMT 9.5
Slithery indeed! And that's the magic of terms like "ancient" and "time immemorial." People seeing my sparsely populated head of white hair, might describe me as ancient, not without some truth but not truly old. The word conveys more than a measurement of time. Venerable might modestly comes to mind.
Our ancient brethren, if you'll pardon the word, may not have been quite literal in the use of words like that. Even in 1717 the new grand lodge was certainly aware of a history that extended back further than their own time, dare we say beyond recorded memory.
Masonry is full of words and phrases used more for effect than for literal meaning. I may mention the words, Grand and Worshipful as two examples.
If a Candidate for more light dwelt on the literal meaning and not on the general feeling evoked by such words, I suspect the experience would be less meaningful. We do what we can with the tools available to us, that is language. We try to point to the infinite with our words (and gestures). You would damn us for our effort?
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Post by Alcyone on Jun 29, 2013 20:46:41 GMT 9.5
You would damn us for our effort? I would damn those who state nonsensical fantasy as established fact. Such as accounts of Pleiadian founders, laden with pernicious agendas. |
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Hot stuff.
