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Els
May 2, 2011 10:16:56 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on May 2, 2011 10:16:56 GMT 9.5
Now I have your attention... The fossilized giant... which mysteriously disappeared soon after it was discovered in Co Antrim looks a bit too perfect to me. However, have a look at this site re giants.. www.sydhav.no/giants/overview.htm
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Els
May 3, 2011 9:09:41 GMT 9.5
Post by mgc on May 3, 2011 9:09:41 GMT 9.5
vulnerable gods? this sounds rather fishy to me.. where does this come from?
xample pls?
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Els
May 3, 2011 9:15:28 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on May 3, 2011 9:15:28 GMT 9.5
vulnerable gods? this sounds rather fishy to me.. where does this come from? Some of the gods are indeed amphibious. Sumerian accounts include the water of life and the bread of life that was for the gods. Psalm 82: 'You are Gods [Elohim], And all of you are sons of the Most High. 7 Surely you will die just as men do; Here is a sample of a Jewish form of the Tree of Life It fits on the human and on various land masses. Other applications exist.
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Els
May 3, 2011 9:30:46 GMT 9.5
Post by mgc on May 3, 2011 9:30:46 GMT 9.5
has elohim been translated properly?
where in nature can i find this pattern? how does it "fit" on a human?
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Els
May 3, 2011 16:43:55 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on May 3, 2011 16:43:55 GMT 9.5
Some subject matter that one might well check out. I would love to hear further on these. Some Notable Examples of Giants Worldwide
♦ One of the most fascinating cases of giants in U. S. history are the Smithsonian Giants. During the genocidal conquest of the indigenous peoples of North America, the United States Calvary and hired mercenaries encountered giants living among the tribes, and engaged in direct combat with them. The mindset used to justify the wholesale slaughter of many, and forced relocation of the rest of these tribes, was that they were sub-human; their darker skin being a key to this gross misconception. The giants they encountered and killed were red-headed with white skin. Fearing a backlash from the American people for killing whites, giants or not, the government ordered that all bodies of these giants be retrieved and shipped to the Smithsonian Institute, to hide the damaging evidence. We have no idea if those bodies were ever disposed of, but there is sufficient evidence available from the Smithsonian officials and documentation of the time to believe this actually occurred.
* Bones of giants have been uncovered in the United States in New York, California, Ohio, Tennessee, Illinois, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Missouri, Nevada, Indiana, Minnesota, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Arizona, New Mexico, and Kentucky from as early as 1792 to as late as 1965.
♦ The legends of early North American tribes are rich with stories of giants, including the Sioux, who told about giants that ran down the buffalo, and the Algonquin stories of giant, bearded men that first occupied their native lands. Individuals, from Columbus to Wild Bill Cody, gave testimony to their existence in North America. Reports of giant skeletons up to 25 and more feet being discovered were reported in early history of the occupation of the United States. ♦ Early English history describes, and even names, giants. Miss Marion, the 8-foot, six-inch Queen of the Amazons, the 8-foot, four-inch George Auger, of the 1903 Barnum and Bailey Circus, Charles Byrne the towering eight-foot-two-inch giant, who gained fame in the late 1700s in London, are just three such giants. Bones of giants up to 13 feet and taller have been uncovered all over the English landscape. ♦ In China, archaeologists have found some of the earliest skeletal remains of giants, as much as fifteen feet tall. Melchior Nunnez, in his letters from India, vouches for the fact that some five hundred giants were used as archers to guard the gates of Peking. George Hakewill, in his Apologie, written in 1627, issued a similar report. ♦ A skeleton found in 1692 in a tomb near Angers, France, measured seventeen-feet, four-inches. And, in his "De Gigantibus", Joh Cassanio speaks of a giant in Bordeaux, France that stood so tall, a man of ordinary size could walk between his legs. He states that Francis I of France (1494-1547) enlisted him as one of his guards. ♦ The Greeks had more than their share of giants in their legends, including Agrius, Alcyoneus, Aloeus, Alpus, Antaeüs, Arges, Atlas, Brontes, Chthonius, Clytius, Coeus, Crius, Cronus, Damasen, Enceladus, Ephialtes, Epimetheus, Eurytus, Gegenees, Gration, Hippolytus, Hopladamus, Hyperion, Lapetus, Metis, Mimas, Mnemosyne, Oceanus, Orion, Orius, Otus, Pallas, Peloreus, Phoebe, Polybotes, Porphyrion, Prometheus, Rhea, Steropes, Talus, Tethys, Thea, Themis, Thoas, Thurius, and Typhoeus. ♦ At Agadir, in Morocco, the French Captain Lafanechere discovered a complete arsenal of hunting weapons, including five hundred double-edged axes weighing over seventeen pounds, 20 times as heavy as would be convenient for modern man. To use these tools would require the hands of a size appropriate to a giant with a stature of at least 13 feet.
♦ Giants play an integral role in the lore of the Norse gods, including Angr-boda, Asvid, Aurboda, Aurvandil, Baugi, Beli, Bergelmir, Bestla, Bolthorn, Bolverk, Börr, Brimer, Buri, Byleist, Eggther, Farbauti, Fjolvar, Gang, Geirrod, Gerdh, Gilling, Gjalp, Grid, Gunnlauth, Gymir, Hela, Helblindi, Hlebard, Hrauthung, Hreidmar, Hrimthurs, Hrod, Hrungnir, Hrym, Hymir, Hyndla, Hyrrokin, Ide, Jarnsaxa, Jötunn, Laufey, Leirbrimir, Logi, Mistblindi, Norfe, Odin, Orvandil, Skadi, Surt, Suttung, Thiassi, Thrym, Thurs, Tjatsi, Trivaldi, Trym, Utgarda-Loki, and Vafthruthnir.
♦ Many mariners, such as Christopher Columbus, Ferdinand Magellan, Sir Francis Drake, Sir Thomas Cavendish, Oliver Noort, Sebald de Weert, William Cowley, George Spilbergen, and George Shelvock, reported encountering giants in the logs of their voyages. ♦ In 1812, an Italian journal reported that in the valley of Mazara, in Sicily, the skeleton of a man ten-feet and three-inches in length was dug up in the same area that several other human skeletons of gigantic size had previously been found.
♦ In 1950, in the Euphrates Valley of Southeast Turkey, many tombs containing giants 14 to 16 feet tall were unearthed.
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Els
May 3, 2011 17:36:35 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on May 3, 2011 17:36:35 GMT 9.5
has elohim been translated properly? ..... how does it "fit" on a human? Try Google. Both issues have been well examined
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Els
May 3, 2011 21:36:01 GMT 9.5
Post by mgc on May 3, 2011 21:36:01 GMT 9.5
i think translating elohim to gods doesnt honor its origins..
i couldnt find a single xample of the tree of life as a pattern in nature, unlike, for xample, the hexagon..
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Els
May 13, 2011 14:59:27 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on May 13, 2011 14:59:27 GMT 9.5
i couldnt find a single xample of the tree of life as a pattern in nature, 2 ToL make the shape of Australia and at the same time show the characters of particular cities. It took me about a month's meditation to work it out. You might be able to do it more quickly now you know there are 2 Trees.
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Els
May 13, 2011 15:01:56 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on May 13, 2011 15:01:56 GMT 9.5
i think translating elohim to gods doesnt honor its origins.. i couldnt find a single xample of the tree of life as a pattern in nature, unlike, for xample, the hexagon.. The tree of life represents the reconciliation of opposites. It is usually pictured with one column black the opposite one white and the middle one silver/grey. Mystics and Holy People usually talk about the Middle Way or Path. Severity is need sometimes but if taken to excess will damage, likewise with Mercy (the names of the two outer columns or pillars). Equilibrium is sought. This applies to all of nature so far as I can see. Too much of anything is not good for us.
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Els
May 13, 2011 15:10:43 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on May 13, 2011 15:10:43 GMT 9.5
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Els
May 13, 2011 18:15:07 GMT 9.5
Post by mgc on May 13, 2011 18:15:07 GMT 9.5
to me that doesnt count as a (reoccuring) pattern in nature..
it might apply to human nature in relation to society.. it doesnt apply to nature itself, which has no mercy..
in the above mentioned row of platonic solids, theres 1 that doesnt fit.. is the hexagon the basis for the flower of life? or is it the other way round?
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Els
May 13, 2011 19:38:49 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on May 13, 2011 19:38:49 GMT 9.5
to me that doesnt count as a (reoccuring) pattern in nature.. That the same pattern can be applied to other land masses. To me it is a recurring pattern.
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Els
May 13, 2011 19:57:18 GMT 9.5
Post by mgc on May 13, 2011 19:57:18 GMT 9.5
can u show me?
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Els
Aug 12, 2011 10:23:02 GMT 9.5
Post by cwhite on Aug 12, 2011 10:23:02 GMT 9.5
He's only 14 inches tall..... L-M
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Els
Aug 12, 2011 10:30:11 GMT 9.5
Post by cwhite on Aug 12, 2011 10:30:11 GMT 9.5
"(Did you know that the ang-els of the four directions or compass points are sometimes called the watchtowers?)"
Four right angles make a square or diamond, then what of four righteous angels?
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Els
Aug 12, 2011 11:30:36 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 12, 2011 11:30:36 GMT 9.5
I have not heard of four righteous angels. Do you have any names?
I once met Khamael
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Els
Aug 12, 2011 12:27:14 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Aug 12, 2011 12:27:14 GMT 9.5
He's only 14 inches tall..... L-M Caught out... didn't read past Bigfoot, was saving the rest to read after work. Baby bigfoot? I can see four fingers and a thumb. Gorilla's have that and the big brow.
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Els
Aug 12, 2011 12:38:17 GMT 9.5
Post by LorrB on Aug 12, 2011 12:38:17 GMT 9.5
"(Did you know that the ang-els of the four directions or compass points are sometimes called the watchtowers?)" Four right angles make a square or diamond, then what of four righteous angels? Enochian angels. They have very different sounding names to the rest of the more well known 'christian' angels we are used to. Wonder why that is. I am used to the angels of the four directions - Raphael, Michael, Gabriel and Uriel. Khamael - can you tell us more about him and his field of interest? (I just got a flash of light at 2 o'clock as I typed his name )
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