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Post by paul on Feb 25, 2012 15:48:28 GMT 9.5
..The King of Terrors is, of course, Death Himself... That is the common position, but I find it hard to hold having read Job, unless Death is a specific entity that does more than kill. Does death destroy memory of a name and eliminate descendents? |
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Post by Henka on Feb 26, 2012 3:03:58 GMT 9.5
..The King of Terrors is, of course, Death Himself... That is the common position, but I find it hard to hold having read Job, unless Death is a specific entity that does more than kill. Does death destroy memory of a name and eliminate descendents [sic]? Taking the Bible literally? Tsk, tsk!  |
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Post by paul on Feb 26, 2012 6:37:19 GMT 9.5
As far as I know the Book of Job is the oldest reference to The King of Terrors by that name. Perhaps the Book of Job is fanciful and there is nothing to learn. Or perhaps not.
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 26, 2012 11:32:06 GMT 9.5
In occult teachings the aspirant is instructed to subjugate the infernal Powers so that they becomes a help and not a hindrance to the Work This is actually quite tricky work. Now bearing in mind I did this without occult teachings, simply bumbling and stumbling my way following my heart, my perspective may be a bit skewed, but this takes enormous amounts of courage and willpower. But it does empower and enable, and in time does help you appreciate the importance of balance over control. Ah but what to do when it is conquered? Then it gets interesting, for you have to learn balance, and that can seem a bit like backsliding, when you are actually moving forwards. If you simply stopped at the conquering stage you could end up becoming what you once despised. This is played out in global events all the time. You can see the various stages at work in the life cycles of various nations. What matters, conceptually, at this moment in time, is more akin to the serpent mounting the head of Pharaoh, than the serpent being trampled on. If you have told me a dozen years ago that esoterics could be so exciting I would have laughed at you, in fact a dozen years ago I probably did not know what esoterics was. Now I wonder in the beauty of it all, in individuals, in organisations, and in nations. Absolutely fascinating. I see that you too had your awakening right around the time I came into my spiritual inheritance in the form of that "Red Tara" initiation. I can tell you that the Sun itself was very active at this time; this fact presented itself to me via a "Discover" magazine falling under my eye, bearing a photo of the raging Sun taken that very week, so as you can see, you too were affected by this mighty influx of solar energy; the Sun, after all, represents the purpose for which one takes birth, and many people made a "leap forward' in awareness at this time. Dion Fortune herself said 'It is becoming normal to do what only used to be possible to the adepts". 'The adepts" meaning "The Sufis". I have mentioned that the Kali Yuga has the sole virtue: that one is more able at this time to attract the attention of God through personal effort than at any other time. Also that there is a definite end to the Kali Yuga (this time 'round it is supposed to be through fire, rather than flood). |
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 26, 2012 11:32:58 GMT 9.5
..The King of Terrors is, of course, Death Himself... That is the common position, but I find it hard to hold having read Job, unless Death is a specific entity that does more than kill. Does death destroy memory of a name and eliminate descendents? Um, yeah... it does. |
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Post by paul on Feb 26, 2012 12:37:52 GMT 9.5
I am surprised so many descendants still exist - and history books too.
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Post by brandt on Feb 26, 2012 13:25:00 GMT 9.5
I am not surprised, we are a prolific species. We aren't pandas.
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 27, 2012 6:07:57 GMT 9.5
If someone or something was gnawing away at our environment and we were not equipped to do anything about it, we too would go the way of the pandas. Many species have been wiped out due to there being too little area for them to breed in and thus increasing predation. We humans just can't be bothered to give a whoop about who or what gets "extincted" unless it's 'cute".
The more and more crowded the world gets, increases the likelihood of 'plague' of some sort, especially with the economic downturn, and the increase in 'antibiotic resistant diseases". It's only a matter of time; humans for the most part have exhibited nothing more than "lip service" to "saving the environment"; it's just a way for corporations to garner more money from gullible people while increasing their profits and their environmentally destructive practices. I can tell you for a fact that the 'organic' movement' is a complete FARCE and has been for some time; we cannot support a burgeoning population AND an 'organic movement" unless a whole lot of people are willing to DIE from starvation.
Plus, due to mismanagement of resources we are on the verge of GLOBAL FAMINE; will anyone worry about "how" their food was produced when there simply ISN'T ANY to be had?
And please, spare me the platitudes about how humanity is getting wiser and more evolved every day; the actual evidence of what is REALLY going on with the world is here in front of MY face every day; my partner works for the government, and thus he KNOWS what is REALLY going on in the world, as opposed to what we all WISH was going on, or would like to believe is going on! It would be better we all focus on mentally preparing for our inevitable meetup with the King of Terrors; that , in and of itself, is the smartest and wisest thing to be done at the present time!
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Post by brandt on Feb 27, 2012 12:44:00 GMT 9.5
We are not on the verge of a global famine. If we were it might be good for us in the long run. Homo sapiens have been through a great deal worse and we have persevered.
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2012 12:52:37 GMT 9.5
... It would be better we all focus on mentally preparing for our inevitable meetup with the King of Terrors.. Close attention to identifying and resolving human weaknesses is the first line of defence against dark forces. Dark forces know that darkness in humans is a standing invitation for entry. |
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 27, 2012 13:49:29 GMT 9.5
We are not on the verge of a global famine. And you know this how? If we were it might be good for us in the long run. We have already had our "long run" Homo sapiens have been through a great deal worse and we have persevered. We mammals have persevered hardly a fraction of the time the dinosaurs ruled; and it took an asteroid strike to take them out. I believe the same will apply this time round as well. I recommend you Google "asteroid Apophis", due for a possible rendezvous with Earth in 2036 |
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2012 14:04:07 GMT 9.5
I rather incline to the view that the King of Terrors is Apophis, but not the asteroid.
Is Apophis still around?
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Post by brandt on Feb 27, 2012 14:12:17 GMT 9.5
I know this because I rely on evidence and information that goes beyond conspiracy websites that are poorly written and certainly lacking in hard evidence. Our "long run" isn't that long a run. Just a few hundred thousand years.
If you would like, you offered the thesis that we are on the verge of a global famine. Please provide your evidence or stop selling scary talking points.
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 27, 2012 14:46:30 GMT 9.5
Maybe if you actually read what I wrote, you would have seen for yourself that I said that my information comes from someone who is attached to the federal government and who deals on a day-to-day basis with the agricultural realities of the whole country, neighbouring countries, and far-away countries.
By the way, I do not visit 'conspiracy sites"; all my data is strictly empirical, based on scientific data and statistics. All the information I need comes to me as I need it; that is one of the advantages of having the initiation of Da'ath. I am a pretty good 'bibliomancer" as well.
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2012 14:56:05 GMT 9.5
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Post by brandt on Feb 27, 2012 14:58:37 GMT 9.5
Please produce your evidence then Sekhmet.
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Post by stewart edwards on Feb 27, 2012 23:12:44 GMT 9.5
If I remember correctly the upcming global famine was taught on environmental/oceonographic university courses I studied some years ago.
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1. Various factors are beginning to affect pollination, including changes in ocean salinity and its effects on the deep water ocean currents and on to the air ocean interaction, through winds, land temperatures (Uk has a big risk here). There is a lot more to it, but offhand this is one serious factor.
2. More people reducing the amount of productive land (few pwople live on mountainsides) available (homes, factories.offices, shops etc), while increassing the pressure on the land to perform, at the same time that a goog chunk is become less productive through overuse.
This has been taught on undergraduate science courses for years now so it is hardly news. Just one of those things that because we dont have a united world hasnt been dealt with so could easily hit us hard.
My university education would tell me that it is not if but when. And when it does happen the wars over water and food will rip this world apart resolving the problem. Unless of course we all grow up first and learn to work together.
Forgetting about the natural changes due eg to the ocean/air interface for a moment, one related problem as I think Henka mentioned previously is that the respources are not in theg correct place. In the UK for instance Scotlands resorvoirs are 93% plus full, where much of central southern England is in drought and in the East crops havent really grown for years due to lack of water. Easily solveable, but money, profit, greed, short termism gets in the way.
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Post by brandt on Feb 27, 2012 23:56:45 GMT 9.5
Aside from the paranoia that we are living in the last days, but what generation hasn't, perhaps the answers are more clear than we thought.
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Post by cwhite on Feb 28, 2012 2:23:45 GMT 9.5
Its not Apophis, its Emma Po Tolo (Sirius C), as per the Dagon.
Evidence?
Go to google-sky, put "Leo" in the search bar.
Emma Po Tolo is invisible to the naked eye, so click the Infra-red button.
Scroll right and you'll see what I'm saying.
Jesus left as lamb, he'll return as a lion.
He died in the beginning of Aries, he's returning in Leo.
Adorned on the top of the vehicle of his death and rebirth, the cross, read the acronym:
INRI
The new age will be initiated by fire...
you have the "what", now what about "where" and "how".
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Post by sekhmet on Feb 28, 2012 4:54:55 GMT 9.5
There is, of course, the possibility that nuclear war will prevail and the asteroid will merely 'finish everything off". Amazing,isn't it?- how we humans have made possible the predicted "end of days' with our OWN HANDS? Does anyone REALLY believe that with 70,000+ nuclear weapons on the face of the earth (enough to destroy the earth 32 times over) we are not at some point going to reap the consequences of having those weapons around and pointed at our fellow humans?
In fact I consider it some sort of miracle that it has been nearly 70 years and nothing of the sort has happened...YET. But as my OTO sponsor once said to me, the very existence of a weapon exerts a "psychic pressure" on the collective; that of 'fulfilling its purpose"; we created these things to be used against our fellow humans, and thus that "intention" constantly 'cries out" to be fulfilled...someday, somewhere, that cry will be heeded!
For my part, I am quite sure the exact time could be determined astrologically, and will likely feature the 'collective" planets prominently, because., after all, the 'end of days" is a 'collective' phenomenon!
Uranus, f'r instance, has entered Aries (the "collective" planet of sudden change placed in the sign of War cannot bode well) which I see to be significant in this regard; Neptune, the next "collective' planet, is currently entering into Pisces, the sign of 'mass sacrifice' and 'endings", and Pluto (the planet of "explosive fiery violence") of course, currently in the sign of "physical manifestation", Capricorn.
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