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Post by fjrogers on Mar 30, 2017 11:35:11 GMT 9.5
I think they've decided to bypass the moon because the moon is 'occupied' in various ways.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 12:11:13 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Apr 2, 2018 12:31:52 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Apr 2, 2018 12:36:13 GMT 9.5
Note about 11 o'clock several long runs of small craters. It looks like beam weapon impacts to me. There is a clearer sequence at 2 o'clock. Not much point attacking a dead moonlet - unless there are structures beneath the surface
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 4:00:52 GMT 9.5
Curious as to the effects of these beam weapons, are they meant to destroy or saturate an area with beneficial radiation due to the lack thereof. Modification of orbit?
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Post by paul on Apr 3, 2018 7:12:16 GMT 9.5
On our Moon the beam weapons have produced large numbers of very wide, very flat craters. On the other side of the Moon there are large mountains, but not on this side. One might conclude that there was a war between Earth and Moon forces that melted the mountains on our side of the Moon.
Then I recall in the 1960s all the fuss about what we would do on the Moon - industries and tourism. But after a few landings we gave up. Was the Moon already occupied?
I also recall a few comets and asteroids passing through the solar system that made artificial changes of course - as if they were self-powered.
There is value in capturing an asteroid, mining the interior, putting in some engines and wandering through solar systems, keeping powered operation to a minimum in order not to attract attention.
If you are spotted then the locals might get to practice their Star Wars technology on you.
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Post by paul on Apr 5, 2018 8:40:35 GMT 9.5
>Not pro se Weapon
It is said that many lunar photos are air-brushed to obscure technology and installations.
>& More like Keeping Kids out of Parents Closet till Christmas Day !
There may be more players than children and parents. The big bad wolf might be out there and in here.
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Post by paul on Apr 5, 2018 12:06:16 GMT 9.5
>wondered about Tunguska, Eye witnesses reported at least 2 changes of course before the explosion. And photos show the explosion stripped branches off the trees directly underneath so that they were bare poles. That would seem like an energy discharge rather than disintegration of a solid object spraying fragments. >some mention of the northern Russia There seems to be a large alien installation in Siberia, and there are reports of a modern scalar device there also close to the Arctic ocean. >device Tesla operated could have been a skip off of the line of site and into space and pinged off of the Van Allen belts The theoretical basis of the Tesla howitzer can be found in the writings of E.T. Whittaker. openlibrary.org/authors/OL134090A/E._T._WhittakerOf particular interest are 2 papers published about 1902 in which he demonstrates that any EM field can be decomposed into 2 scalars (dimensionless numbers). Any geometrician is likely to apply the principle of duality to that and invert the theorem so that 2 scalars can be used to produce an EM field remotely and with zero transmission time. This was weaponized by the Russians and announced obliquely by Khrushchev about 1964 when he said that Russian scientists were on the edge of producing a weapon that if misused could destroy the planet. In the 1990s the US Sec of Defense announced the existence of weather weaponry - of which we have seen many uses in the last decade. The primary weather weaponry is scalar. It is not obvious how far the US has proceeded with this as the Russians captured most of the German radar scientists in 1945 and it was their work on stealth technologies that led into the scalar weapons. Scalar weapons are central to planetary defense on the physical plane.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 21:20:36 GMT 9.5
It appears these societies conceal themselves in space(comets, moons) Hiding for the benefit of protection From who, what, and why
Inherited problematic history? Property? Capturing life's sparks?
Insecurities stemming from who was here "first"
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Post by paul on Apr 7, 2018 6:02:00 GMT 9.5
>From who, what, and why
Just as this planet has many predators, locally and globally, so does the galaxy.
If you read the Sumerian accounts the gods came here as a military occupation to extract and export gold. The gods were dying here (from the light of our old sun) and bred a slave race to do the work for them. The South Americans knew this and when the Spanish arrived (in the expected year and with similar physiology to the gods) they gave them all the gold as the gods had taught them that all gold belonged to the gods.
The breeding of the slave race created another asset to be captured. If you look at images of some aliens, their pelvises are too narrow to give birth. They are using humans as surrogates to breed a hybrid that can allow their species to survive - hence the phantom pregnancies of female abductees.
The Earth humans also have spiritual capabilities that are most valuable so that they represent a valuable asset when captured in large numbers
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Post by paul on May 22, 2018 8:46:39 GMT 9.5
' asteroid 2015 BZ509, the permanent visitor is about 3km across and was first spotted in late 2014 by the Pan-Starrs project at the Haleakala Observatory in Hawaii. Experts quickly realised the asteroid travelled around the sun in the opposite direction to the planets – a retrograde orbit.' www.theguardian.com/science/2018/may/21/retrograde-asteroid-is-interstellar-immigrant-scientists-sayAn asteroid going the wrong way obviously arrived later than the formation of the solar system. The default assumption is: - its arrival was accidental - it had just the right kinetic energy and approach vector and approach timing to come into a stable orbit near large planets - the stable orbit managed to dodge all the objects going the other way - for a very long time the asteroid has avoided disturbances by the various comets and asteroids passing through the solar system that would have moved it out of its safe orbit. Just lucky I guess
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Post by fjrogers on May 26, 2018 15:45:33 GMT 9.5
That certainly is interesting. One might wonder if the asteroid could become a threat in the future, and what would we be able to do about it?
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Post by paul on May 26, 2018 17:21:58 GMT 9.5
>what would we be able to do about it
Speak nicely to the pilot?
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Post by fjrogers on May 27, 2018 10:52:59 GMT 9.5
That's one way of looking at it, I suppose.
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Post by paul on Jun 22, 2018 13:08:23 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Jun 28, 2018 7:50:46 GMT 9.5
Here is the Saturn moon Enceladus Note the round crater to the right of center that has a right angle corner - overtly created by erosion valleys running at right angles Directly below that crater is a deep trench cutting across an erosion valley. That is next to a pronounced zigzag valley that leads to a very deep rather straight trench. To the right of the first crater is a deep long curving trench that separates the liquid flow area from the crater area where lots of little craters appear in straight lines - sometimes as fairly smooth furrows - as might be seen from beam weapons
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Post by paul on Jul 3, 2018 14:53:43 GMT 9.5
I can't find a better thread and rather than a new one: " Oumuamua, is the first interstellar object ever observed by Earth scientists. Approaching from above our solar system in “most extreme orbit” on record in orbital graphic above, it was closest to the Sun on Sept. 9, 2017. Traveling first at 56,880 mph, as it changed course and headed away from Earth its speed increased to 97,200 miles an hour... " "we’ve never seen interstellar objects pass through (our solar system) before." "Oumuamua in Hawaian means “scout or leader in a battle." www.earthfiles.com/2018/07/01/oumuamua-comet-asteroid-other-changing-speed-and-course/So it passed close to the Sun without being affected by gravity and then when well past it hung a right turn to come very close to Earth - again without being affected by gravity and off it went out of the solar system It looks like the object was piloted and that quite possibly Earth was being inspected. Just as well Trump has announced the (existing) space force
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Post by paul on Jul 18, 2018 13:08:41 GMT 9.5
Jupiter has a whole bunch of retrograde moons. How did the retrograde moons appear? If moons are formed from the original dust cloud they should be going the same way, and the same way as the planet rotates. And there is one prograde moon driving the right way down the highway. That moon cannot have been formed from a collision among all those moons going the wrong way as such a collision could not generate an exact reverse motion. If the prograde moon was naturally formed how did it survive such an exactly dangerous orbit with the odd meteorite passing through and disturbing orbits? Thus the prograde moon is either recently placed or its orbit is regularly readjusted to cope with minor disturbances in the orbits of the other moons. Of course the same question arises with Bode's Law. How can the orbits of planets have remained in harmony with Bode's Law when there is so much traffic through the solar system? www.nature.com/articles/239508a0
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Post by fjrogers on Jul 18, 2018 14:30:13 GMT 9.5
It does look like there's something synthetic there. A bit odd!
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Post by paul on Jul 21, 2018 8:58:49 GMT 9.5
Here are some formations/structures on Venus - often called domes They are supposedly volcanoes but they are very different from Earth volcanoes. Here are some domes on Venus. There are apparently about 20 000 domes over the 25% of the surface that was imaged by the Soviets. Here is a close-up of one formation. It is certainly eroded and perhaps destroyed before the erosion. Someone has kindly edited the image to cover up some even more interesting artifact. Notice the landscape striations are interrupted by the structure. Notice also that the eroded material is mostly on one side - as if there had been a large flow of water from right to left. That suggests that the striations are also caused by water with the flow going either side of the dome - after the original erosion. This can be seen at the top and bottom of the image of the dome where the erosion gullies divert the flow that goes from right to left. The flow was not deep enough to cover the dome.
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