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Oct 18, 2022 9:20:51 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 9:20:51 GMT 9.5
We were on the subject of God's clock (beginning/end of time). I have been rolling enough thoughts around it I thought I would start a thread.
It is not of human design.. so doesn't follow hours, days, years. It does however follow something.
I had raised the possibility with simply beginning and end with everything else making it "work".
Other ideas.
The number of spirits/people connected to the eternal source. Kind of like a pie graph range.
From that perspective may be the beginning and end of time.
Likewise if it is counting down, would be the people yet to connect.
It's all a bit frivolous at any rate but seemed worth noting.
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Oct 18, 2022 9:22:56 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 9:22:56 GMT 9.5
Anyone else having something stand out?
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2022 9:33:43 GMT 9.5
I start to wonder how fundamental timelines are. Timelines may turn out to be internal processes implicit within whole-of-life structures
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The Clock
Oct 18, 2022 9:38:13 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 9:38:13 GMT 9.5
I start to wonder how fundamental timelines are. Timelines may turn out to be internal processes implicit within whole-of-life structures Hmm timeline mechanics... I will have to think on that one.
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Oct 18, 2022 9:40:48 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 9:40:48 GMT 9.5
This does fit the beg/end we make up the middle idea.
But something else peeked my brain. Will let you know if I reach any conclusions.
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Oct 18, 2022 9:55:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 9:55:20 GMT 9.5
Ok so rather quick result to start..
I had wondered how long a spirit can endure time..
It is never easy.
There is a prophesied end and seems to be one from my understanding.
A genome as well begins and ends.
A spiral of that vessels beginning. But can be included into others with the next generation.
Perhaps timelines are the genome of our spiritual body.
Not necessarily following the physical DNA, but the time in body would be the DNA to complete the strand of spirit.
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Post by paul on Oct 18, 2022 10:01:05 GMT 9.5
>how long a spirit can endure time..
Long ago I thought that:
- the physical was limited by time and space - the emotional by space and not time (emotional atmospheres can persist for centuries) - the mental was limited by neither time nor space (I find it easy to slide back and forth on timelines)
When I look now the Buddhic/Intuitional plane is extremely non-linear and the Atmic/Intent plane has no interest in dimensions or linearity
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Oct 18, 2022 10:34:44 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 10:34:44 GMT 9.5
>how long a spirit can endure time.. Long ago I thought that: - the physical was limited by time and space - the emotional by space and not time (emotional atmospheres can persist for centuries) - the mental was limited by neither time nor space (I find it easy to slide back and forth on timelines) When I look now the Buddhic/Intuitional plane is extremely non-linear and the Atmic/Intent plane has no interest in dimensions or linearity Very interesting paul.. More to ponder.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 18, 2022 16:56:18 GMT 9.5
Two angles..
1. Zecharia Sitchin, might say that you need to look at Gods clock (Nibiru orbit). This explains jumps in evolution, the deluge, even why the second coming didn’t happen at the millennium, etc.
2. Does time matter? Yes it helps you get to work on time, but does it really matter? Does it help you answer the eternal questions? (Indirectly yes as you need time to get there, but directly?). Does time act as any more that a unit of measurement? Does thinking in terms of time (while essential in our world for work, school, meetings, appointments etc) hinder you when thinking more comprehensively about the ‘whole’ you.
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The Clock
Oct 18, 2022 21:48:46 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 21:48:46 GMT 9.5
Two angles.. 1. Zecharia Sitchin, might say that you need to look at Gods clock (Nibiru orbit). This explains jumps in evolution, the deluge, even why the second coming didn’t happen at the millennium, etc. 2. Does time matter? Yes it helps you get to work on time, but does it really matter? Does it help you answer the eternal questions? (Indirectly yes as you need time to get there, but directly?). Does time act as any more that a unit of measurement? Does thinking in terms of time (while essential in our world for work, school, meetings, appointments etc) hinder you when thinking more comprehensively about the ‘whole’ you. I will check that out thanks Stewart! Time only matters when it does.. a strange dynamic here. At these moments typically time is in short supply or it "took forever". It would seem to me in this understanding time is experienced independently. We can also do this consciously, slow down time in troubled times or speed it up in happy times (time flew).
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Oct 18, 2022 22:13:05 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 22:13:05 GMT 9.5
This was one dilemma im facing. Time is experienced independently, but each experience a length of time.
Got me wondering how long that could go on. Is the unit length part of becoming whole? Or "as long as you need" to get it right?
As long as you need would explain why memory is mostly blocked from previous lives. So then "how long" is a null point.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 8:50:34 GMT 9.5
Two angles.. 1. Zecharia Sitchin, might say that you need to look at Gods clock (Nibiru orbit). This explains jumps in evolution, the deluge, even why the second coming didn’t happen at the millennium, etc. 2. Does time matter? Yes it helps you get to work on time, but does it really matter? Does it help you answer the eternal questions? (Indirectly yes as you need time to get there, but directly?). Does time act as any more that a unit of measurement? Does thinking in terms of time (while essential in our world for work, school, meetings, appointments etc) hinder you when thinking more comprehensively about the ‘whole’ you. I will check that out thanks Stewart! Time only matters when it does.. a strange dynamic here. At these moments typically time is in short supply or it "took forever". It would seem to me in this understanding time is experienced independently. We can also do this consciously, slow down time in troubled times or speed it up in happy times (time flew). 1. Note I am not saying that Sitchin is correct, just that his view is interesting. Having just spent 6 months on his Earth series I am a bit exhausted! 2. Consider how as a child your years seemed to last a long time, yet the older you get they seemingly pass quicker. (You are busier, dealing with all sorts of stuff, so time drags less). 3. Ask any decent remote viewer (eg the retired US military ones and those they trained globally), and time becomes pretty irrelevant. You can access past and future events (with accuracy and usefulness issues aside for a moment) easily enough. 4. While I no longer do it much (it was an enormous amount of mental work), cross checked against scientific data (eg ocean current flows) and reputable news sources (eg The Economist), if you ever seriously map our worlds energy flows, it helps to be able to (1) look at specific flows in isolation, and (2) how they interact with other flows. That involves some time manipulation (more like switching it on and off). A good example just now, is my country’s politics (Britain). If you keep up with it your brain must be exploding, vast reversals of policies virtually overnight as (1) vested interests do their thing, (2) external agencies eg IMF weigh in, (3) our Prime Minister of a few weeks tries to keep her job even though her policies have been reversed, etc. All against a backdrop of children going hungry en mass, people dying due to government policies (evidenced by coroners and a parliamentary committee), fear having been driven into society for a dozen years etc. One day, with hindsight this will make an excellent case study for politicians, economists, and esotericists. You could look at it (1) follow the money, or (2) headless chickens, or (3) money addiction, power corruption, egos etc. I have lived through this, but those who haven’t could look at energy flows through time, individually and collectively, to see how things work/as a training device. How? You could try (1) picking a time to start. (2) picking an energy flow, and feel it. (3) project forward in time to see how it develops, (4) incorporate it with other related energy flows and feel the effects, (5) to try to see where it will go. Then check it against recorded British recent history from quality news sources. Esoterics isn’t some oblique fringe hobby, it actually plays out every single day in real life. By isolating time (slowing it, speeding it) can help comprehension and prediction. But the number of factors is mind boggling and frankly exhausting. Another way of looking at this is to ‘detach yourself from the moment’ and observe. Stepping outside time so to speak. Hope that made some sort of sense Sammy.
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The Clock
Oct 19, 2022 9:09:11 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 9:09:11 GMT 9.5
I will check that out thanks Stewart! Time only matters when it does.. a strange dynamic here. At these moments typically time is in short supply or it "took forever". It would seem to me in this understanding time is experienced independently. We can also do this consciously, slow down time in troubled times or speed it up in happy times (time flew). 1. Note I am not saying that Sitchin is correct, just that his view is interesting. Having just spent 6 months on his Earth series I am a bit exhausted! 2. Consider how as a child your years seemed to last a long time, yet the older you get they seemingly pass quicker. (You are busier, dealing with all sorts of stuff, so time drags less). 3. Ask any decent remote viewer (eg the retired US military ones and those they trained globally), and time becomes pretty irrelevant. You can access past and future events (with accuracy and usefulness issues aside for a moment) easily enough. 4. While I no longer do it much (it was an enormous amount of mental work), cross checked against scientific data (eg ocean current flows) and reputable news sources (eg The Economist), if you ever seriously map our worlds energy flows, it helps to be able to (1) look at specific flows in isolation, and (2) how they interact with other flows. That involves some time manipulation (more like switching it on and off). A good example just now, is my country’s politics (Britain). If you keep up with it your brain must be exploding, vast reversals of policies virtually overnight as (1) vested interests do their thing, (2) external agencies eg IMF weigh in, (3) our Prime Minister of a few weeks tries to keep her job even though her policies have been reversed, etc. All against a backdrop of children going hungry en mass, people dying due to government policies (evidenced by coroners and a parliamentary committee), fear having been driven into society for a dozen years etc. One day, with hindsight this will make an excellent case study for politicians, economists, and esotericists. You could look at it (1) follow the money, or (2) headless chickens, or (3) money addiction, power corruption, egos etc. I have lived through this, but those who haven’t could look at energy flows through time, individually and collectively, to see how things work/as a training device. How? You could try (1) picking a time to start. (2) picking an energy flow, and feel it. (3) project forward in time to see how it develops, (4) incorporate it with other related energy flows and feel the effects, (5) to try to see where it will go. Then check it against recorded British recent history from quality news sources. Esoterics isn’t some oblique fringe hobby, it actually plays out every single day in real life. By isolating time (slowing it, speeding it) can help comprehension and prediction. But the number of factors is mind boggling and frankly exhausting. Another way of looking at this is to ‘detach yourself from the moment’ and observe. Stepping outside time so to speak. Hope that made some sort of sense Sammy. Quite so about Sitchin, I just enjoy fresh perspectives. I will hopefully give some time to it tomorrow. Politics everywhere are a disaster, they created enough "revisions" no one can see the cracks anymore.. even the ones that did it! A bit of karma I think there.. Some may find interest in traveling the speedways of time, rest assured I am not one of them.
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Oct 19, 2022 11:21:23 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 11:21:23 GMT 9.5
I read quite a bit of The Messianic Clock just now. Still in chapter 1, but it is quite the account so far.
It seems to be fairly accurate, but I wouldn't be able to verify specifics.
Some things are described differently but same in effect. This may just be issues with the recollection of their past.
Sitchin seems to be overly focused on bloodlines and genetics. A bit concerning.. perhaps may be missing the point a tad.
An interesting read nonetheless!
Thank you Stewart!
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Oct 19, 2022 12:54:30 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 12:54:30 GMT 9.5
I also started into nibiru.
Was your thought the watch as solar system? Many have theorized this since Sitchin, plausible for sure.
I tried a scan of the object..
I envisioned the watch and asked if it can tell me a little how it works.
The reply was "the passing of souls"
I asked "passing what?".
It replied "life and death".
I still need to read more Sitchen, and I will need to ponder the later.
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Oct 19, 2022 13:23:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 13:23:20 GMT 9.5
I should revise...
My exact question at first was:
"What does movement require?"
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Post by paul on Oct 19, 2022 13:24:16 GMT 9.5
>quite a bit of The Messianic Clock just now.
Messiahs come to save. I rather think that humans need to take responsibility and step up.
Further from what I have read it seems that physical aliens/gods had a rethink about 1992 when an alien site just on the Chinese side of the border with Russia was nuked by the Russians who thought that the Chinese troops approaching the border region were going to invade. The Chinese thought it was a Russian site and were about to deal with it too.
So I suspect that more subtle aliens are those promoting human cooperation in the solar system. In the Artemis Accords, players that attack each other on Earth have agreed to protect each other in the solar system. How voluntary is such an agreement?
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The Clock
Oct 19, 2022 13:34:09 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 13:34:09 GMT 9.5
>quite a bit of The Messianic Clock just now. Messiahs come to save. I rather think that humans need to take responsibility and step up. Further from what I have read it seems that physical aliens/gods had a rethink about 1992 when an alien site just on the Chinese side of the border with Russia was nuked by the Russians who thought that the Chinese troops approaching the border region were going to invade. The Chinese thought it was a Russian site and were about to deal with it too. So I suspect that more subtle aliens are those promoting human cooperation in the solar system. In the Artemis Accords, players that attack each other on Earth have agreed to protect each other in the solar system. How voluntary is such an agreement? From my understanding it has to be 100% their own choice.. just a hard one to agree with. Attempts are nearly considered futile at best. However differences were made for sure. I do sometimes wonder about the theory of a pyramid in Alaska that tries to control people's thoughts..
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 16:59:20 GMT 9.5
Some things are described differently but same in effect. Sitchin seems to be overly focused on bloodlines and genetics. A bit concerning.. perhaps may be missing the point a tad. ! 1. ‘Descriptions.’ This is a common issue. Look at Paul and me, energy cubes/energy patterns. Esoteric books tend to be written using the language that makes sense to the author. Readers might need translation into their vocabulary. You are correct to focus on the effect. 2. Bloodlines/genetics. In a nutshell Sitchin says that Enki (God/alien from Nibiru) created man as a slave to work in backbreaking gold mines. With each 3600 (human years) year, the Gods/aliens from Nibiru would give us a leg up, eg Bronze Age etc. To Sitchin we are literally the genetically engineered test tube babies of Enki, with evolution thrown in. When we tried to emulate the Gods, with the Tower of Babel, the Gods got angry and split us into streams, in the Middle East and Africa (established already), Indus Valley and South America. 3. The Gods themselves fought over power due to birthrights.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 17:00:29 GMT 9.5
I also started into nibiru. Was your thought the watch as solar system? Many have theorized this since Sitchin, plausible for sure. I tried a scan of the object.. I envisioned the watch and asked if it can tell me a little how it works. The reply was "the passing of souls" I asked "passing what?". It replied "life and death". I still need to read more Sitchen, and I will need to ponder the later. Sorry I am not totally sure what you mean by watch Sammy.
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