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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 17:01:49 GMT 9.5
I should revise... My exact question at first was: "What does movement require?" ? It’s early and I am a bit dopey. Can you rephrase please Sammy?
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 17:10:25 GMT 9.5
>quite a bit of The Messianic Clock just now. Messiahs come to save. I rather think that humans need to take responsibility and step up. Further from what I have read it seems that physical aliens/gods had a rethink about 1992 when an alien site just on the Chinese side of the border with Russia was nuked by the Russians who thought that the Chinese troops approaching the border region were going to invade. The Chinese thought it was a Russian site and were about to deal with it too. So I suspect that more subtle aliens are those promoting human cooperation in the solar system. In the Artemis Accords, players that attack each other on Earth have agreed to protect each other in the solar system. How voluntary is such an agreement? 1. Too many people are awaiting a Messiah. The trouble is he/she would have to satisfy the varying demands of multiple religions, and deal likely with fear driven imprisonment, torture and assassination by some. Jesus being a prime example, accepted by Christianity but not by Judaism. 2. I agree that humans need to step up. However practically that is extremely difficult and unlikely given the levels of active and passive darkness in our world today. If you don’t have the money to feed, provide nappies for, wash or heat, your newborn baby (yes that is reality for some in U.K. just now), stepping up might be the last thing on your mind. Even if you were aware of the possibility. 3. So the solution. It has to incorporate darker forces on this planet (those addicted to money, power, ego etc) else it will be a fools errand. Unless of course the decision is taken to force evolution of the human race, yet again.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 21:59:21 GMT 9.5
I also started into nibiru. Was your thought the watch as solar system? Many have theorized this since Sitchin, plausible for sure. I tried a scan of the object.. I envisioned the watch and asked if it can tell me a little how it works. The reply was "the passing of souls" I asked "passing what?". It replied "life and death". I still need to read more Sitchen, and I will need to ponder the later. Sorry I am not totally sure what you mean by watch Sammy. Sorry my mistake.. clock. I saw it on the wrist like a watch.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 22:05:40 GMT 9.5
I should revise... My exact question at first was: "What does movement require?" ? It’s early and I am a bit dopey. Can you rephrase please Sammy? So sorry! It was a bit late for myself haha! This was the full line of Q&A with the clock. What does movement require? The reply was "the passing of souls" I asked "passing what?". It replied "life and death".
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 22:19:35 GMT 9.5
>quite a bit of The Messianic Clock just now. Messiahs come to save. I rather think that humans need to take responsibility and step up. Further from what I have read it seems that physical aliens/gods had a rethink about 1992 when an alien site just on the Chinese side of the border with Russia was nuked by the Russians who thought that the Chinese troops approaching the border region were going to invade. The Chinese thought it was a Russian site and were about to deal with it too. So I suspect that more subtle aliens are those promoting human cooperation in the solar system. In the Artemis Accords, players that attack each other on Earth have agreed to protect each other in the solar system. How voluntary is such an agreement? 1. Too many people are awaiting a Messiah. The trouble is he/she would have to satisfy the varying demands of multiple religions, and deal likely with fear driven imprisonment, torture and assassination by some. Jesus being a prime example, accepted by Christianity but not by Judaism. 2. I agree that humans need to step up. However practically that is extremely difficult and unlikely given the levels of active and passive darkness in our world today. If you don’t have the money to feed, provide nappies for, wash or heat, your newborn baby (yes that is reality for some in U.K. just now), stepping up might be the last thing on your mind. Even if you were aware of the possibility. 3. So the solution. It has to incorporate darker forces on this planet (those addicted to money, power, ego etc) else it will be a fools errand. Unless of course the decision is taken to force evolution of the human race, yet again. Agreed.. it would have to encapsulate all of humanity. Literally... not a single person can be left out. Also yes, instant target to nefarious entities. A bully magnet. Not an easy task by any stretch. To appease the hearts of all. Yet that was never the task. They just need to find that happiness in themselves. Works something close to chemical reactions, spreading among the people. This was why originally the focus was mostly put on the person with most influence. The total reaction time is reduced once the effect was gained.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 22:59:09 GMT 9.5
Some things are described differently but same in effect. Sitchin seems to be overly focused on bloodlines and genetics. A bit concerning.. perhaps may be missing the point a tad. ! 1. ‘Descriptions.’ This is a common issue. Look at Paul and me, energy cubes/energy patterns. Esoteric books tend to be written using the language that makes sense to the author. Readers might need translation into their vocabulary. You are correct to focus on the effect. 2. Bloodlines/genetics. In a nutshell Sitchin says that Enki (God/alien from Nibiru) created man as a slave to work in backbreaking gold mines. With each 3600 (human years) year, the Gods/aliens from Nibiru would give us a leg up, eg Bronze Age etc. To Sitchin we are literally the genetically engineered test tube babies of Enki, with evolution thrown in. When we tried to emulate the Gods, with the Tower of Babel, the Gods got angry and split us into streams, in the Middle East and Africa (established already), Indus Valley and South America. 3. The Gods themselves fought over power due to birthrights. I do recall some turmoil over the results of Earth's status. Many thought it was being screwed up, or going to get screwed worse if others took over. It really was a mess. It was decided interventions or assistance was no longer allowed. They were shutting the doors and none were staying behind to help because you would be severed from the eternal source. I couldn't though. I am one of us.. I didn't have to leave though. I could have been safe and sound, but at the cost of watching it all burn. My family, my friends, my heros, I couldn't abandon them. I offered to stay as the embassador knowing it would cut me off from the eternal source. The doors have been opened again recently. Some people have entered the gates and we are starting to be allowed access again as are they. Also though the "struggle" with dark and light groups still continues. Darker forces were losing ground and started crossing lines that were "off limits", essentially breaking time laws. It is possible tundrawolf has a pathway to reconcile this dispute in the dark groups. In short we are seeing increased "sightings" of their visits but the visits are for many various reasons.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 23:40:23 GMT 9.5
I offered to stay as the embassador knowing it would cut me off from the eternal source. . Fair play to you Sammy. I can assure you though that maintaining a connection to the eternal source is possible.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 19, 2022 23:41:03 GMT 9.5
Sorry I am not totally sure what you mean by watch Sammy. Sorry my mistake.. clock. I saw it on the wrist like a watch. sorry, me being dopey, watch = clock! Sitchin believed that just as we base our clock/time on our planets revolution around the sun, and the earth spinning on it’s axis, the Gods did the same, from their perspective. Ie Nibiru orbit of 3600 human years = 1 of their years. Technically Nibiru is in our solar system, it’s just got a wonky orbit, again according to Sitchin. Nibiru, on one orbit, crashed into Tiamat, splitting it into two. One half formed the Earth, the smashed half the asteroid belt. When looking at counting, we count from the Sun out, the Gods counted from Nibiru in towards the Sun. As humans we look at things from our perspective, which differs from that of Ea/Enlil etc.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 23:47:36 GMT 9.5
I offered to stay as the embassador knowing it would cut me off from the eternal source. . Fair play to you Sammy. I can assure you though that maintaining a connection to the eternal source is possible. You are correct.. but not like it was. It is... different. Physically speaking.
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Post by sammy on Oct 19, 2022 23:52:37 GMT 9.5
Sorry my mistake.. clock. I saw it on the wrist like a watch. sorry, me being dopey, watch = clock! Sitchin believed that just as we base our clock/time on our planets revolution around the sun, and the earth spinning on it’s axis, the Gods did the same, from their perspective. Ie Nibiru orbit of 3600 human years = 1 of their years. Technically Nibiru is in our solar system, it’s just got a wonky orbit, again according to Sitchin. Nibiru, on one orbit, crashed into Tiamat, splitting it into two. One half formed the Earth, the smashed half the asteroid belt. When looking at counting, we count from the Sun out, the Gods counted from Nibiru in towards the Sun. As humans we look at things from our perspective, which differs from that of Ea/Enlil etc. This was also one of the subjects I had considered mislabeled. Tiamat was a person.. who collided with Earth. It was far after the creation of it and after time began. Heh.. I had forgotten this turn of phrase.. They had to give us "time". Seen as a lesson.
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Post by sammy on Oct 20, 2022 5:07:04 GMT 9.5
Interesting..
"WHEN Were as a species READY"
This is would follow my own recollection.
Also would explain life/death being the movement of the clock.
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Post by sc on Oct 25, 2022 0:38:40 GMT 9.5
Internal processes such as life cycles in all living things that are physical, then yes it would implicit to every different life form. Consider for a moment that space is timeless and that time it's self from our point of view is measured relative to our sun which we have measured , and where we have broken this down into units of hours, days, years etc. To then interpreted into time lines according to our life cycles. Now expand this out to the polar star where the distance from our sun to that point gives the radius of a circle and along the circumference of that circle is where our constellation are. Our system turns within theirs and theirs turns within another. We can only measure the movement of stars in relation to our systems movements within the timelessness of space. So then we can only really measure cycles and convert these cycles into life time lines measured against the cycle of our sun according to the movement of earth.
Now consider that light is time, the life or length of the life cycle is dictated by the light held within a life form as this length is governed by the length of rotation around our life source , which is our sun, which we call days.
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Post by sammy on Oct 25, 2022 1:36:06 GMT 9.5
Internal processes such as life cycles in all living things that are physical, then yes it would implicit to every different life form. Consider for a moment that space is timeless and that time it's self from our point of view is measured relative to our sun which we have measured , and where we have broken this down into units of hours, days, years etc. To then interpreted into time lines according to our life cycles. Now expand this out to the polar star where the distance from our sun to that point gives the radius of a circle and along the circumference of that circle is where our constellation are. Our system turns within theirs and theirs turns within another. We can only measure the movement of stars in relation to our systems movements within the timelessness of space. So then we can only really measure cycles and convert these cycles into life time lines measured against the cycle of our sun according to the movement of earth. Now consider that light is time, the life or length of the life cycle is dictated by the light held within a life form as this length is governed by the length of rotation around our life source , which is our sun, which we call days. Seems how it works from my end. Well put together SC! Thank you for posting this! We can say we lived because we reflected/transfered the light to do so (atoms/molecules/etc..).
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Post by sammy on Oct 25, 2022 13:34:59 GMT 9.5
"Now consider that light is time, the life or length of the life cycle is dictated by the light held within a life form as this length is governed by the length of rotation around our life source , which is our sun, which we call days."
I have thought similar thoughts except for the cycles of atomic rotation. Attached also to some kind of underlying memory structure (ranges of spectrums of light, alignment, electro magnetism, etc..). I call that structure the God mind. What we call the laws of nature or physics and sciences.
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Post by paul on Oct 25, 2022 14:37:55 GMT 9.5
It appears to me that time has parallel structures (timelines) that, when they touch each other are inclined to leak patterns. Apparently local temporal wars need adjustment by the Earth's time force. Personally I have seen the entity that generates timelines for this arm of the galaxy is not pleased with some timeline interactions. I suspect improper contamination of parallel development experiments. Meanwhile "Basiagio, by his own admission, is part of a CIA sanctioned disclosure initiative to reveal classified time travel, teleportation and space program activities." exopolitics.org/time-traveling-presidential-candidate-releases-100-campaign-proposals/
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Post by sammy on Oct 25, 2022 21:53:56 GMT 9.5
It appears to me that time has parallel structures (timelines) that, when they touch each other are inclined to leak patterns. Apparently local temporal wars need adjustment by the Earth's time force. Personally I have seen the entity that generates timelines for this arm of the galaxy is not pleased with some timeline interactions. I suspect improper contamination of parallel development experiments. Meanwhile "Basiagio, by his own admission, is part of a CIA sanctioned disclosure initiative to reveal classified time travel, teleportation and space program activities." exopolitics.org/time-traveling-presidential-candidate-releases-100-campaign-proposals/I wonder what displeases the entity.. is it salvageable?
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 25, 2022 22:54:07 GMT 9.5
It appears to me that time has parallel structures (timelines) that, when they touch each other are inclined to leak patterns. Apparently local temporal wars need adjustment by the Earth's time force. Personally I have seen the entity that generates timelines for this arm of the galaxy is not pleased with some timeline interactions. I suspect improper contamination of parallel development experiments. Meanwhile "Basiagio, by his own admission, is part of a CIA sanctioned disclosure initiative to reveal classified time travel, teleportation and space program activities." exopolitics.org/time-traveling-presidential-candidate-releases-100-campaign-proposals/I wonder what displeases the entity.. is it salvageable? Sammy 1. Paul noted it is because “ I suspect improper contamination of parallel development experiments.” 2. When I tried to visualise timelines just now, I did notice some internal ‘bulges’ seeming to push a timeline in a specific direction towards another. Now if this is normal, or some designed source within that timeline I don’t have a clue. But I wonder if it is like an army trying to gain territory. 3. Equally timelines seem well isolated through natural, don’t know the right word, electrical magnetic slowly spinning sheaths. 4. But there does seem to be scope for this magnetism 🧲 to aid attraction if conditions are correct in both threads. I guess, think about Paul’s Nazi insight, a strong residual force in this timeline, might help attract strong forces in other timelines connect and energise. I don’t know. 5. Worth bearing in mind that while I can now visualise timelines, and can see and comprehend the benefits (more life experience opportunities), I still don’t really believe in them. It’s a theoretical construct for me. That said I can see how combining experiences from multiple timelines could be quite beneficial and explanational. 6. I can also see how timelines could be brought together in unity at a point, before separating again. 7. Paul, the entity you sense, I have tried again, just now, to connect. I get frustration at their work being manipulated by darker forces. A bit, I suppose, like petty family or political party politics and egos working against the common good, while your entity just wants to get on and do their job. 8. But I could well be talking nonsense. Added.. 9. Now that was a funny feeling. Paul, I think that your entity just asked me for a little help. Visually it was as if their hand was held out, which I took, sort of near elbow grip by both of us (as on tv when someone is falling). I then seem to have passed some cotton wool type energy (but with a bright yellow core with a blue tinged edge) to them. Immediately thereafter another Entity, more central to our galaxy smiled and passed something on to me, to replenish I guess. That was weird and unexpected. But I do now have an internal feeling a bit like a rod rising from my neck/throat area to above my head at the back of my head. 10. Fascinating visualisation. 11. On a completely separate issue, am I correct that the Pleiades are much more neutral/gentle, than Orion or Sirius in terms of aiding evolution? While I have been aware of Pleiades energies for years, I am only just beginning to be able to separate and more concretely feel those energies. Much more refined.
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Post by sammy on Oct 25, 2022 23:19:22 GMT 9.5
I wonder what displeases the entity.. is it salvageable? Sammy 1. Paul noted it is because “ I suspect improper contamination of parallel development experiments.” 2. When I tried to visualise timelines just now, I did notice some internal ‘bulges’ seeming to push a timeline in a specific direction towards another. Now if this is normal, or some designed source within that timeline I don’t have a clue. But I wonder if it is like an army trying to gain territory. 3. Equally timelines seem well isolated through natural, don’t know the right word, electrical magnetic slowly spinning sheaths. 4. But there does seem to be scope for this magnetism 🧲 to aid attraction if conditions are correct in both threads. I guess, think about Paul’s Nazi insight, a strong residual force in this timeline, might help attract strong forces in other timelines connect and energise. I don’t know. 5. Worth bearing in mind that while I can now visualise timelines, and can see and comprehend the benefits (more life experience opportunities), I still don’t really believe in them. It’s a theoretical construct for me. That said I can see how combining experiences from multiple timelines could be quite beneficial and explanational. 6. I can also see how timelines could be brought together in unity at a point, before separating again. 7. Paul, the entity you sense, I have tried again, just now, to connect. I get frustration at their work being manipulated by darker forces. A bit, I suppose, like petty family or political party politics and egos working against the common good, while your entity just wants to get on and do their job. 8. But I could well be talking nonsense. Added.. 9. Now that was a funny feeling. Paul, I think that your entity just asked me for a little help. Visually it was as if their hand was held out, which I took, sort of near elbow grip by both of us (as on tv when someone is falling). I then seem to have passed some cotton wool type energy (but with a bright yellow core with a blue tinged edge) to them. Immediately thereafter another Entity, more central to our galaxy smiled and passed something on to me, to replenish I guess. That was weird and unexpected. But I do now have an internal feeling a bit like a rod rising from my neck/throat area to above my head at the back of my head. 10. Fascinating visualisation. 11. On a completely separate issue, am I correct that the Pleiades are much more neutral/gentle, than Orion or Sirius in terms of aiding evolution? While I have been aware of Pleiades energies for years, I am only just beginning to be able to separate and more concretely feel those energies. Much more refined. Incredibly fascinating Stewart! Thank you for sharing this! You visualized what I have been suspecting. I just don't have the optics you and Paul developed. Different frequencies maybe? That aspect has boggled me.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 26, 2022 1:36:06 GMT 9.5
Different frequencies maybe? That aspect has boggled me. Sammy, I can only recall my own life experiences to help explain. Specifically my museum experiences. 1. Decades ago I passed a statue of Sekhmet and my body tingled. I tested this by walking back and forth on various visits looking for windows, air conditioning etc. 2. Some months later I had the devastating experience of looking in the eye sockets of a mummy and they were somewhat displeased to see me again. 3. In the first few years, this did not happen with many objects, and worked best when I was zoned out relaxed. 4. As the years passed more objects began to open themselves up to me, some fairly easily some requiring more work. By this time I had seen them many times and until that point had been silent. 5. Then we get to where we are today. Which includes attractive young females taking the time to talk to me about what I was doing, so someone clearly has an interest in such things. Now, throughout this period I was striving hard to know myself better, and make better sense of how our world works. It was a bit of a chicken and egg scenario, but my sensitivity increased as I progressed. So you could say, using your word ‘frequency’ that my frequencies refined. Greater self knowledge = greater sensitivity. Away from pure esoteric work (like here) it also aides applied esoteric work, eg finding submarines or other applications. Gaining self knowledge is the hard bit, as you have to be brutally honest with yourself over why you did something/didn’t do something, and critically map when you react to eg museum objects, or specific places. But as time passes you progress. But I suspect you already know this Sammy. I don’t know how long you have been doing this, for me two decades. Though there were definite childhood/young adult connections that I simply didn’t appreciate four decades ish ago. I also think that being a social nitwit helps (really I am) as you are not immersed in energy structures that could divert you. But the real hard work is within you, then in time, to use your analogy, you become increasingly sensitive to frequencies. Hope that helps.
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Post by sammy on Oct 26, 2022 1:50:35 GMT 9.5
Different frequencies maybe? That aspect has boggled me. Sammy, I can only recall my own life experiences to help explain. Specifically my museum experiences. 1. Decades ago I passed a statue of Sekhmet and my body tingled. I tested this by walking back and forth on various visits looking for windows, air conditioning etc. 2. Some months later I had the devastating experience of looking in the eye sockets of a mummy and they were somewhat displeased to see me again. 3. In the first few years, this did not happen with many objects, and worked best when I was zoned out relaxed. 4. As the years passed more objects began to open themselves up to me, some fairly easily some requiring more work. By this time I had seen them many times and until that point had been silent. 5. Then we get to where we are today. Which includes attractive young females taking the time to talk to me about what I was doing, so someone clearly has an interest in such things. Now, throughout this period I was striving hard to know myself better, and make better sense of how our world works. It was a bit of a chicken and egg scenario, but my sensitivity increased as I progressed. So you could say, using your word ‘frequency’ that my frequencies refined. Greater self knowledge = greater sensitivity. Away from pure esoteric work (like here) it also aides applied esoteric work, eg finding submarines or other applications. Gaining self knowledge is the hard bit, as you have to be brutally honest with yourself over why you did something/didn’t do something, and critically map when you react to eg museum objects, or specific places. But as time passes you progress. But I suspect you already know this Sammy. I don’t know how long you have been doing this, for me two decades. Though there were definite childhood/young adult connections that I simply didn’t appreciate four decades ish ago. I also think that being a social nitwit helps (really I am) as you are not immersed in energy structures that could divert you. But the real hard work is within you, then in time, to use your analogy, you become increasingly sensitive to frequencies. Hope that helps. Thank you for sharing your experiences! I'm sure I have more to grow and perhaps will come in time. I was proposing we "see" the same things but in different ways (frequencies). The visual cortex isn't what is accessed naturally for my connection. I have some ability with it but since it isn't my natural sense I have to struggle seeing a clear image. If I know what it already looks like I can access the object much easier, and then scan it with my abilities. Trying to pull an unknown object out of the ether can be a bit like pulling teeth for me. I can best explain it using a path. I know where I have been which guides where I am going. The options for the path moving forward is like a frayed string. I can sense vibrations in the fray as to what should happen next to reach the destination (what string to attach).
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