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Post by sammy on Oct 23, 2018 8:43:30 GMT 9.5
>there at least had of been a few just by the various styles still in use. Genesis 11 And the LORD said: ‘Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is what they begin to do; and now nothing will be withholden from them, which they purpose to do. 7Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.’ This might also be saying in other words, "A language was created, and others just took the idea and ran with it rather then using the original." The Bible is so cryptic it could mean any number of things. As we know today its quite possible to know more then 1 language at a time, just allot less probable back then due to the hardships of traveling long distances. At a time when language was first being produced a single word would hold massive power and meaning to the speaker. Only over time does words and meaning lose their luster. It could also just be cultures had different ideas as to what the sounds and meanings should be. Possibly our first arguments socially? The first civilization to be able to cross communicate would appear far more advanced then any other. This statement is basically saying they were the first known culture to work as a team (via communication).
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Post by paul on Oct 23, 2018 10:15:25 GMT 9.5
>The first civilization to be able to cross communicate would appear far more advanced then any other.
There is an account of alien script being found in New Mexico caves in 1941 by army engineers. (Were they there by accident?) The script could not be read until a professor specializing in Sumerian was consulted. The alien script was a variant of Sumerian script - or perhaps the other way around.
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Post by sammy on Oct 23, 2018 10:26:14 GMT 9.5
>The first civilization to be able to cross communicate would appear far more advanced then any other. There is an account of alien script being found in New Mexico caves in 1941 by army engineers. (Were they there by accident?) The script could not be read until a professor specializing in Sumerian was consulted. The alien script was a variant of Sumerian script - or perhaps the other way around. I have began to notice things are rarely by accident, just often misunderstood. Are you able to find a link to this story/pic?
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Post by paul on Oct 23, 2018 12:41:27 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 23, 2018 22:31:01 GMT 9.5
I think proving aliens, bigfoot, and lizard people is a little out of our control. Im still not sure how all of this is explaining why languages began or were different from culture to culture. Sumerian might be the first civilization to harness language. Im sure certain noises took its place that didnt speak it. Unless we were all mimes. Other languages could have been formed from those noises once the idea of language existed.
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Post by paul on Oct 24, 2018 6:35:16 GMT 9.5
>I think proving aliens, bigfoot, and lizard people is a little out of our control. How many eye witnesses do you need? Millions are available. >Sumerian might be the first civilization to harness language. Sumerians did not claim to be the first Earth civilization. Sumerians thought that civilization came from outside the planet. As far as I know, all traditional societies believe the same. For example, the Sumerians recorded that the first tool given to them was the mattock. It is still used today - very extensively. When I was young I was taught that humans were the only intelligent species. This belief was required to support the theology of the time - that humans are specially created by God. These days we know of many ancient accounts that state that some gods bred humans to be slaves. Some Earth humans prefer to believe that life started on Earth - and hopefully nowhere else. So far evidence for this is non-existent. For example, it seems that for every species, when an evolutionary tree is drawn, there are missing links. In 150 years, afaik, no missing links have ever been discovered for any species. This might seem to undermine the theory, but the theory survives. Charles Fort spent his life collecting data that was damned by modern society - for being contrary to accepted beliefs. Here is one of his books: www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22472Fort concluded that Earth humans are property. Who would want to know that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 7:34:23 GMT 9.5
Sammy wrote: Im still not sure how all of this is explaining why languages began or were different from culture to culture Abbe Boudet : Document2-boudet cromlechs.docx (533.01 KB) - I am unable to locate an English version, although I know it exists There are online translators also " The title of this book seems, at first, too pretentious to be absolutely right. It is easy, however, to show the truth, since the Celtic language is not a language dead, missing, but a living language, spoken by millions of men in the universe. Could the language of a nation as powerful as was the Gallic nation, get so lost without leaving any trace? Is it surprising that a people of Europe, used to express their thoughts, terms out of the mouth of men to the earliest times of the world "
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Post by sammy on Oct 24, 2018 13:17:44 GMT 9.5
My internet whent down tonight. I will have to respond and read link tomorrow. Sorry guys.
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Post by sammy on Oct 24, 2018 22:48:55 GMT 9.5
>I think proving aliens, bigfoot, and lizard people is a little out of our control. How many eye witnesses do you need? Millions are available. I wish I were able to take the word of a large population for clarity. For me it would be as easy as even 1 piece of hard evidence, but I am far from your harshest critic. Aside from flat earthers, millions (including myself) would vouch adamantly for the existence of a higher power. Yet there are still agnostics. There are some gaps I feel I can find ways across, and some I cant. Aliens, Gods, Earth... We are property whether we like it or not.
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Post by sammy on Oct 25, 2018 0:15:32 GMT 9.5
Sammy wrote: Im still not sure how all of this is explaining why languages began or were different from culture to culture Abbe Boudet : - I am unable to locate an English version, although I know it exists There are online translators also " The title of this book seems, at first, too pretentious to be absolutely right. It is easy, however, to show the truth, since the Celtic language is not a language dead, missing, but a living language, spoken by millions of men in the universe. Could the language of a nation as powerful as was the Gallic nation, get so lost without leaving any trace? Is it surprising that a people of Europe, used to express their thoughts, terms out of the mouth of men to the earliest times of the world "
Henri is quite the guy! thanks for this, I just started into reading about it/him.
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Post by sammy on Oct 25, 2018 0:31:39 GMT 9.5
I should readdress my position on aliens. I am perty sure life exists on other planets. What I am not able to say for sure is if that other life has made it to Earth.
I am also perty sure we are not alone. The way aliens are described and the way angelic beings/spirits are described, I cannot say for sure which one it would be, and maybe even neither (something we cant perceive).
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Post by sammy on Oct 31, 2018 3:27:22 GMT 9.5
I should readdress my position on aliens. I am perty sure life exists on other planets. What I am not able to say for sure is if that other life has made it to Earth.
I am also perty sure we are not alone. The way aliens are described and the way angelic beings/spirits are described, I cannot say for sure which one it would be, and maybe even neither (something we cant perceive).
Perhaps we should differentiate possible alien life of Earth. One side is fully developed life forms and their means of transportation.
The second one is. If a comet from a destroyed planet that has micro organisms crashes into Earth, and those micro organisms grow into a being. Is it Alien all the growth past this micro stage is through the elements of Earth? In the same respect how can we say any organism or really anything on Earth started here?
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Post by sammy on Oct 31, 2018 4:11:21 GMT 9.5
Some more thoughts on trappings. I heard something today that got me thinking "lack of love for themselves or lack of love from others". I don't know if any of you have been in this frame of mind but its one of the darkest places a individual can go. Where no matter where you look all you see is hatred, hatred toward yourself and hatred received from others about yourself. When I experienced this I was 14, and if it wasn't for just this one friend I had, I am perty sure I would have killed myself or at least made a real attempt at it. It takes a strong love to break this darkness.
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Post by sammy on Oct 31, 2018 5:08:19 GMT 9.5
So the polarity of this trapping is
"unaware or unable to see the love in their life and the lives of others". *black
"unaware or unable to see the pain in life or in the lives of others". *white
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Post by paul on Oct 31, 2018 6:20:55 GMT 9.5
>I am perty sure life exists on other planets.
Traditional societies tend to think of planets as alive. And if planets are alive, is not Space alive too?
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Post by sammy on Oct 31, 2018 7:30:52 GMT 9.5
>I am perty sure life exists on other planets. Traditional societies tend to think of planets as alive. And if planets are alive, is not Space alive too? Ohhh! What a fun question!
I have had some thoughts on this aspect in the past about space and matter or matter/anti-matter.
For matter to be observed outside of a single mass, it requires space for any kind of reference to do so. To me I see it more like they are the same thing. Reality = where matter is + where matter isn't.
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Post by paul on Oct 31, 2018 8:24:24 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 31, 2018 8:35:35 GMT 9.5
You are correct I am, but not the idea of it. A state in which Prayala is describing would be the singular mass I was talking about.
This would be with "no reality", non existent.
A better way to phrase what I meant is: For life to exist, matter requires space, allowing a relative perspective in movement of the matter, thus creating the observance of time.
You can even cross check this,
Space and time require matter
Time and matter require space
Space and matter require time
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Post by paul on Oct 31, 2018 9:23:37 GMT 9.5
> A state in which Prayala is describing would be the singular mass
Pralaya is a cyclical phase without space.
What is the intent that produces Existence?
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Post by sammy on Oct 31, 2018 12:56:06 GMT 9.5
> A state in which Prayala is describing would be the singular mass Pralaya is a cyclical phase without space. I perhaps chose poor words, or not enough elaboration. When I say a singular mass, I mean everything is singular. Space, time, matter, all things as one singular mass. At this state no one thing would be more relative to the other (perfect balance). In a way though, the way we now know that space has a limit and also a possible shape. We also know everything is inside this one shape. In a way we currently see it in a singular form. Im not sure. To be observed?
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