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Post by paul on Oct 10, 2022 21:20:13 GMT 9.5
>who could better kick start human evolution again
By one account, Earth humans have yet to see evolution. That may explain the "missing link" in every proposed evolutionary chain across the various species.
Still, the Renaissance was arguably an intervention to avoid the loss of the European civilisation with many profound beings taking human form. Perhap there will be other rescues
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 10, 2022 21:41:12 GMT 9.5
>who could better kick start human evolution again By one account, Earth humans have yet to see evolution. That may explain the "missing link" in every proposed evolutionary chain across the various species. Still, the Renaissance was arguably an intervention to avoid the loss of the European civilisation with many profound beings taking human form. Perhap there will be other rescues I wish them every success . Remember though the 21st Century is not the Renaissance, times have changed in multiple ways, some not an issue back then. Renaissance solutions would likely need to adapt somewhat. Time will tell. Also remember TimGoods words, in his view we were given 100 years to sort ourselves out. That 100 years have just ended. We seem to have failed.
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Post by sammy on Oct 10, 2022 22:55:49 GMT 9.5
Everything starts as thought and ends as action.
No amount of power or wealth can change or control that torrent of energy.
No matter how big a battery is.. it will never outlast an eternal one.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 10, 2022 23:20:33 GMT 9.5
Everything starts as thought and ends as action. No amount of power or wealth can change or control that torrent of energy. No matter how big a battery is.. it will never outlast an eternal one. Indeed, I thought how best to tackle the issues. I tried I failed. I found an alternative action. As I keep saying if someone else can do what I tried to do for two decades, fair play to them. Go for it. My action plan will hopefully get this planet where it needs to be, it will just happen (if accepted) after my death. What about you Sammy, do you fancy stepping up?
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Post by sammy on Oct 10, 2022 23:33:09 GMT 9.5
Everything starts as thought and ends as action. No amount of power or wealth can change or control that torrent of energy. No matter how big a battery is.. it will never outlast an eternal one. Indeed, I thought how best to tackle the issues. I tried I failed. I found an alternative action. As I keep saying if someone else can do what I tried to do for two decades, fair play to them. Go for it. My action plan will hopefully get this planet where it needs to be, it will just happen (if accepted) after my death. What about you Sammy, do you fancy stepping up? I am curious what makes you think I havnt already? I have been attempting to show you that regardless your choice.. you are a person of great influence. Your words, your actions, all carry value in the minds and hearts who perceive it. It cannot force you to choose it consciously.. that must be your choice and destination as that is your will. But it is in you regardless (what sings in your heart).
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 11, 2022 0:10:54 GMT 9.5
Indeed, I thought how best to tackle the issues. I tried I failed. I found an alternative action. As I keep saying if someone else can do what I tried to do for two decades, fair play to them. Go for it. My action plan will hopefully get this planet where it needs to be, it will just happen (if accepted) after my death. What about you Sammy, do you fancy stepping up? I am curious what makes you think I havnt already? I have been attempting to show you that regardless your choice.. you are a person of great influence. Your words, your actions, all carry value in the minds and hearts who perceive it. It cannot force you to choose it consciously.. that must be your choice and destination as that is your will. But it is in you regardless (what sings in your heart). Sammy 1. Your curiosity is easily satisfied here Sammy, if you have then great. 2. While you may be correct Sammy, from my perspective I just don’t have the feedback data that suggests that I have great influence, beyond generating ridicule and grief, a couple of small data points excepted. Most recently I have read that I simply cause trouble. I know that I have touched a few hearts and that is good enough for me. 3. If I am of great influence hopefully I will be more successful with my reporting back than I have been over the past two decades here. 4. Seriously Sammy, the very definition of madness is said to be keeping doing the same thing an expecting a different result. I tried, I failed. I came up with two further options, one way more realistic than the other. I teased and explained the less realistic option, so it could be thought about and discussed, while preparing the more realistic option. 5. This may sound strange but I do not desire influence. I much prefer nudging thought generation. 6. I do hope that someone else can get Homo sapiens evolving naturally while rebalancing/harmonising this planet. Fair play to them. For me I just don’t see how I could have half a decent chance to do it other than how I have previously explained.
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Post by sammy on Oct 11, 2022 1:51:07 GMT 9.5
I am curious what makes you think I havnt already? I have been attempting to show you that regardless your choice.. you are a person of great influence. Your words, your actions, all carry value in the minds and hearts who perceive it. It cannot force you to choose it consciously.. that must be your choice and destination as that is your will. But it is in you regardless (what sings in your heart). Sammy 1. Your curiosity is easily satisfied here Sammy, if you have then great. 2. While you may be correct Sammy, from my perspective I just don’t have the feedback data that suggests that I have great influence, beyond generating ridicule and grief, a couple of small data points excepted. Most recently I have read that I simply cause trouble. I know that I have touched a few hearts and that is good enough for me. 3. If I am of great influence hopefully I will be more successful with my reporting back than I have been over the past two decades here. 4. Seriously Sammy, the very definition of madness is said to be keeping doing the same thing an expecting a different result. I tried, I failed. I came up with two further options, one way more realistic than the other. I teased and explained the less realistic option, so it could be thought about and discussed, while preparing the more realistic option. 5. This may sound strange but I do not desire influence. I much prefer nudging thought generation. 6. I do hope that someone else can get Homo sapiens evolving naturally while rebalancing/harmonising this planet. Fair play to them. For me I just don’t see how I could have half a decent chance to do it other than how I have previously explained. 1. I walk the path laid before me as best I can. 2. I would be cautious the counterweight you use to judge yourself. Only you decide who you are or what that means. 3-6. I will try a different approach. "I do hope that someone else can get Homo sapiens evolving naturally while rebalancing/harmonising this planet." This would be saying you didn't take part in that. That your life had 0% impact on others. We do not get to choose what others take from us, but take they will. Maybe even a good for a bad.. it is out of our hands how others use knowledge. Who you are to others is bought and paid for.. but who are you to yourself? Perhaps a better question: Do you think reporting back to a source of eternal knowledge will be the finale of your spritual quest? Clue: "eternal" source.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 11, 2022 2:46:18 GMT 9.5
Sammy 1. Your curiosity is easily satisfied here Sammy, if you have then great. 2. While you may be correct Sammy, from my perspective I just don’t have the feedback data that suggests that I have great influence, beyond generating ridicule and grief, a couple of small data points excepted. Most recently I have read that I simply cause trouble. I know that I have touched a few hearts and that is good enough for me. 3. If I am of great influence hopefully I will be more successful with my reporting back than I have been over the past two decades here. 4. Seriously Sammy, the very definition of madness is said to be keeping doing the same thing an expecting a different result. I tried, I failed. I came up with two further options, one way more realistic than the other. I teased and explained the less realistic option, so it could be thought about and discussed, while preparing the more realistic option. 5. This may sound strange but I do not desire influence. I much prefer nudging thought generation. 6. I do hope that someone else can get Homo sapiens evolving naturally while rebalancing/harmonising this planet. Fair play to them. For me I just don’t see how I could have half a decent chance to do it other than how I have previously explained. 1. I walk the path laid before me as best I can. 2. I would be cautious the counterweight you use to judge yourself. Only you decide who you are or what that means. 3-6. I will try a different approach. "I do hope that someone else can get Homo sapiens evolving naturally while rebalancing/harmonising this planet." This would be saying you didn't take part in that. That your life had 0% impact on others. We do not get to choose what others take from us, but take they will. Maybe even a good for a bad.. it is out of our hands how others use knowledge. Who you are to others is bought and paid for.. but who are you to yourself? Perhaps a better question: Do you think reporting back to a source of eternal knowledge will be the finale of your spritual quest? Clue: "eternal" source. Sammy Of course I don’t think “ reporting back to a source of eternal knowledge will be the finale of your spritual quest?” Far from it in fact. I have been here several times in the past that I am aware of, and no doubt more I can’t recollect. I suspect I will be back here at some point in the future to see how things are going again. But there are many other places to be as well, jobs to do, etc. You may think that reporting back is an easy option. It isn’t. There is a lot of work being objective, being fair, thinking through a realm of real life issues from oceanographic issues to politics. It is important to get it as right as I can from my perspective here on Earth. Our world will continue without me essentially repeating that last two decades, albeit with a more advanced skillset. I really am not that important in the scheme of things Sammy. Remember also that I already know that I have done enough. That was my sole concern when I nearly died years ago, and it was confirmed I had. God asked me to return, I put my faith in him and did so, regardless of the fact that I desperately wanted to take that final step. I have had to work out why for myself, for I wasn’t given a job. Fortunately I am as certain as I can be that I now, after many years know what that job is, and I have been doing it. It’s not a battle Sammy, at least not from my perspective, it’s all about evolutionary balance, cross kingdoms. It really is up to Homo sapiens as a whole to decide to open their hearts, do it, and enjoy the natural evolutionary benefits. I tried, I failed, I moved on, while keeping within my assignment so to speak. Until Father Time and Mother Nature come for me again, it really is now up to either.. 1. Someone else having a go. I wish them every success. Or 2. Homo sapiens realising that they don’t need a figurehead, they just need to be nicer. And working to develop that. I have illustrated how, noting the key issues. Failing that my report will go it and it will either be ignored or acted upon. Either way I have done my bit. Could I do more? Sure. Should I do more? I already am, it’s just not that way you and Paul might see as optimal (from your perspectives). But from my perspective it is. Given the physical resources explained previously, with buy in, yes I could do much more, but that is a bit fantasyland. Why? Money addiction and fear are too great. Now if that changes that is another matter, but I am not holding my breath. If someone else can do it purely esoterically, great, go for it.
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Post by sammy on Oct 11, 2022 4:03:43 GMT 9.5
1. I walk the path laid before me as best I can. 2. I would be cautious the counterweight you use to judge yourself. Only you decide who you are or what that means. 3-6. I will try a different approach. "I do hope that someone else can get Homo sapiens evolving naturally while rebalancing/harmonising this planet." This would be saying you didn't take part in that. That your life had 0% impact on others. We do not get to choose what others take from us, but take they will. Maybe even a good for a bad.. it is out of our hands how others use knowledge. Who you are to others is bought and paid for.. but who are you to yourself? Perhaps a better question: Do you think reporting back to a source of eternal knowledge will be the finale of your spritual quest? Clue: "eternal" source. Sammy Of course I don’t think “ reporting back to a source of eternal knowledge will be the finale of your spritual quest?” Far from it in fact. I have been here several times in the past that I am aware of, and no doubt more I can’t recollect. I suspect I will be back here at some point in the future to see how things are going again. But there are many other places to be as well, jobs to do, etc. You may think that reporting back is an easy option. It isn’t. There is a lot of work being objective, being fair, thinking through a realm of real life issues from oceanographic issues to politics. It is important to get it as right as I can from my perspective here on Earth. Our world will continue without me essentially repeating that last two decades, albeit with a more advanced skillset. I really am not that important in the scheme of things Sammy. Remember also that I already know that I have done enough. That was my sole concern when I nearly died years ago, and it was confirmed I had. God asked me to return, I put my faith in him and did so, regardless of the fact that I desperately wanted to take that final step. I have had to work out why for myself, for I wasn’t given a job. Fortunately I am as certain as I can be that I now, after many years know what that job is, and I have been doing it. It’s not a battle Sammy, at least not from my perspective, it’s all about evolutionary balance, cross kingdoms. It really is up to Homo sapiens as a whole to decide to open their hearts, do it, and enjoy the natural evolutionary benefits. I tried, I failed, I moved on, while keeping within my assignment so to speak. Until Father Time and Mother Nature come for me again, it really is now up to either.. 1. Someone else having a go. I wish them every success. Or 2. Homo sapiens realising that they don’t need a figurehead, they just need to be nicer. And working to develop that. I have illustrated how, noting the key issues. Failing that my report will go it and it will either be ignored or acted upon. Either way I have done my bit. Could I do more? Sure. Should I do more? I already am, it’s just not that way you and Paul might see as optimal (from your perspectives). But from my perspective it is. Given the physical resources explained previously, with buy in, yes I could do much more, but that is a bit fantasyland. Why? Money addiction and fear are too great. Now if that changes that is another matter, but I am not holding my breath. If someone else can do it purely esoterically, great, go for it. I did not intend to challenge your efforts. It was to admit them permissions. You have done enough and none can say otherwise. But you are not "done". The expression of "you" is still in production. No curtains yet. How you proceed is of no concern to me for i know it is in safety. You will still be you. I know you mean no harm and are no threat to humanity, infact have good intentions for it. I highly commend you for it. You can proceed however you choose in good conscience. I accept your choices as good ones regardless and i will stand by you. I'll present this question panother way.. Moving forward you have put forth the options: A. I have failed, reporting back. B. I already am doing more. ----- The future will come regardless, as you have stated. Also none can say how it is applied. You will have to choose how you "see" yourself proceeding till that dinner bell rings. That choice decides your final destination, as it is what you believe to be. Your will, your choice and i accept it wholeheartedly. What does it mean to choose B? It does not mean you MUST find the answer. Or even that you ever will. Perhaps there is none, only acceptance. The future does not hinge on your success. There are no figureheads in the eternal scope. It means you havnt given up trying. The thought of how you proceed, is the result in which you do so.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 11, 2022 4:16:26 GMT 9.5
Sammy Of course I don’t think “ reporting back to a source of eternal knowledge will be the finale of your spritual quest?” Far from it in fact. I have been here several times in the past that I am aware of, and no doubt more I can’t recollect. I suspect I will be back here at some point in the future to see how things are going again. But there are many other places to be as well, jobs to do, etc. You may think that reporting back is an easy option. It isn’t. There is a lot of work being objective, being fair, thinking through a realm of real life issues from oceanographic issues to politics. It is important to get it as right as I can from my perspective here on Earth. Our world will continue without me essentially repeating that last two decades, albeit with a more advanced skillset. I really am not that important in the scheme of things Sammy. Remember also that I already know that I have done enough. That was my sole concern when I nearly died years ago, and it was confirmed I had. God asked me to return, I put my faith in him and did so, regardless of the fact that I desperately wanted to take that final step. I have had to work out why for myself, for I wasn’t given a job. Fortunately I am as certain as I can be that I now, after many years know what that job is, and I have been doing it. It’s not a battle Sammy, at least not from my perspective, it’s all about evolutionary balance, cross kingdoms. It really is up to Homo sapiens as a whole to decide to open their hearts, do it, and enjoy the natural evolutionary benefits. I tried, I failed, I moved on, while keeping within my assignment so to speak. Until Father Time and Mother Nature come for me again, it really is now up to either.. 1. Someone else having a go. I wish them every success. Or 2. Homo sapiens realising that they don’t need a figurehead, they just need to be nicer. And working to develop that. I have illustrated how, noting the key issues. Failing that my report will go it and it will either be ignored or acted upon. Either way I have done my bit. Could I do more? Sure. Should I do more? I already am, it’s just not that way you and Paul might see as optimal (from your perspectives). But from my perspective it is. Given the physical resources explained previously, with buy in, yes I could do much more, but that is a bit fantasyland. Why? Money addiction and fear are too great. Now if that changes that is another matter, but I am not holding my breath. If someone else can do it purely esoterically, great, go for it. I did not intend to challenge your efforts. It was to admit them permissions. You have done enough and none can say otherwise. But you are not "done". The expression of "you" is still in production. No curtains yet. How you proceed is of no concern to me for i know it is in safety. You will still be you. I know you mean no harm and are no threat to humanity, infact have good intentions for it. I highly commend you for it. You can proceed however you choose in good conscience. I accept your choices as good ones regardless and i will stand by you. I'll present this question panother way.. Moving forward you have put forth the options: A. I have failed, reporting back. B. I already am doing more. ----- The future will come regardless, as you have stated. Also none can say how it is applied. You will have to choose how you "see" yourself proceeding till that dinner bell rings. That choice decides your final destination, as it is what you believe to be. Your will, your choice and i accept it wholeheartedly. What does it mean to choose B? It does not mean you MUST find the answer. Or even that you ever will. Perhaps there is none, only acceptance. The future does not hinge on your success. There are no figureheads in the eternal scope. It means you havnt given up trying. The thought of how you proceed, is the result in which you do so. Sammy wrote “ Moving forward you have put forth the options: A. I have failed, reporting back. B. I already am doing more.” Just a note of clarification for accuracy…. A. Indeed I have failed, as explained based on the data available to me. But reporting back isn’t a failure. It was/is one of the two options available to me. Reporting back would only be a failure, if somehow I didn’t do that on death. B. Indeed, I am growing to ensure that I apply correct professional standards to my report, so that it is as fair, objective and unbiased as possible. That can be quite demanding work, as you must put aside your own views, biases etc. Equally there may be byproduct effects of my growth in the world. As opposed to me actively nudging where appropriate. Not everything is successful Sammy. All any of us can do is the best we can.
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Post by sammy on Oct 11, 2022 4:32:39 GMT 9.5
I did not intend to challenge your efforts. It was to admit them permissions. You have done enough and none can say otherwise. But you are not "done". The expression of "you" is still in production. No curtains yet. How you proceed is of no concern to me for i know it is in safety. You will still be you. I know you mean no harm and are no threat to humanity, infact have good intentions for it. I highly commend you for it. You can proceed however you choose in good conscience. I accept your choices as good ones regardless and i will stand by you. I'll present this question panother way.. Moving forward you have put forth the options: A. I have failed, reporting back. B. I already am doing more. ----- The future will come regardless, as you have stated. Also none can say how it is applied. You will have to choose how you "see" yourself proceeding till that dinner bell rings. That choice decides your final destination, as it is what you believe to be. Your will, your choice and i accept it wholeheartedly. What does it mean to choose B? It does not mean you MUST find the answer. Or even that you ever will. Perhaps there is none, only acceptance. The future does not hinge on your success. There are no figureheads in the eternal scope. It means you havnt given up trying. The thought of how you proceed, is the result in which you do so. Sammy wrote “ Moving forward you have put forth the options: A. I have failed, reporting back. B. I already am doing more.” Just a note of clarification for accuracy…. A. Indeed I have failed, as explained based on the data available to me. But reporting back isn’t a failure. It was/is one of the two options available to me. Reporting back would only be a failure, if somehow I didn’t do that on death. B. Indeed, I am growing to ensure that I apply correct professional standards to my report, so that it is as fair, objective and unbiased as possible. That can be quite demanding work, as you must put aside your own views, biases etc. Equally there may be byproduct effects of my growth in the world. As opposed to me actively nudging where appropriate. Not everything is successful Sammy. All any of us can do is the best we can. How do you know the future that your efforts have failed? Your time is not yet over. I'm not sure why this hasn't connected.. I say you are a success because you try your best. Others say that is all you need. Why believe you failed instead? What ideology are you fulfilling? It is not of our own making.
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Post by sammy on Oct 11, 2022 22:59:45 GMT 9.5
I hope I wasn't being ridged Stewart. I just care for you. I appreciate also how much you care.
I'm not always a easy pill to swallow..
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 12, 2022 0:48:33 GMT 9.5
I hope I wasn't being ridged Stewart. I just care for you. I appreciate also how much you care. I'm not always a easy pill to swallow.. Relax Sammy. Remember I see things from a different perspective to you. And I always appreciate direct feedback, no matter how negative. You are of course correct that my past work, could result in future benefits that I am currently unaware off. However, from the data I have, I seem to have had minimal impact. And that’s ok. Some feedback for you, re the Crown. It came from a worthy source, of that there is no doubt, but I am inclined to think Paul might have a point, as I think that it could be used to gain authority over certain darker forces in our world. Frankly I don’t want authority over darker forces. They are currently feasting on humanity (just look at British politics just now, a lot of in and out of work hunger, mums not being able to buy nappies, food or heat for their newborns etc. I want them to recognise that they are shooting themselves in the foot. But that’s money/power/ego addiction for you. But like any addict change is not possible until they admit that they have a problem. At least some in British politics see this (though express it differently). Balance ⚖️ is what matters. 🐢 Ma’at Ankh Re. Slogging Scotsman Stewart
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Post by sammy on Oct 12, 2022 1:33:27 GMT 9.5
I hope I wasn't being ridged Stewart. I just care for you. I appreciate also how much you care. I'm not always a easy pill to swallow.. Relax Sammy. Remember I see things from a different perspective to you. And I always appreciate direct feedback, no matter how negative. You are of course correct that my past work, could result in future benefits that I am currently unaware off. However, from the data I have, I seem to have had minimal impact. And that’s ok. Some feedback for you, re the Crown. It came from a worthy source, of that there is no doubt, but I am inclined to think Paul might have a point, as I think that it could be used to gain authority over certain darker forces in our world. Frankly I don’t want authority over darker forces. They are currently feasting on humanity (just look at British politics just now, a lot of in and out of work hunger, mums not being able to buy nappies, food or heat for their newborns etc. I want them to recognise that they are shooting themselves in the foot. But that’s money/power/ego addiction for you. But like any addict change is not possible until they admit that they have a problem. At least some in British politics see this (though express it differently). Balance ⚖️ is what matters. 🐢 Ma’at Ankh Re. Slogging Scotsman Stewart Thank you I will try to! I agree about the darker forces.. best to stay out of those alleyways.
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