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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 6:08:22 GMT 9.5
Sammy You seem to be equivocating, find the self confidence to stick to your guns and take that punt.
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Post by sammy on Oct 8, 2022 6:14:33 GMT 9.5
‘ 3. Sammy wrote “ Once the leader of the kingdom was cleared (initates were tested), they would receive one of these crowns. Just as you described Paul.” Sammy, so which kingdom do I lead, from your first post on that thread? ’ Come on a Sammy, I am working with you here, take a punt. (I know you sort of answered that but you have misaligned responses here, you original and the one you explained above re changes (The kingdoms have changed a bit... more like localities of thought. Mindsets on how to rule the world and so on), but have the self confidence to take a punt.) Perhaps this is harder to describe then I imagined.. The common theme is "great influence". Obviously in our past the social structure was a bit flawed. Basically the down trend was kingdoms, to states of mind, to ways of life. Currently one would be picked for their influence toward others states of mind and ways of life. A kingdom shows separation, this is pursuing coexistence. An evolved state of mind. I hope this clears some things up. Punt away! You would be hard pressed to find one with tougher skin than I. 😉
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Post by sammy on Oct 8, 2022 6:18:48 GMT 9.5
Sammy You seem to be equivocating, find the self confidence to stick to your guns and take that punt. Believe me when I say I am trying as much as possible. The trouble is that everything is relative. Consistency is nowhere on the map..
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 6:28:13 GMT 9.5
‘ 3. Sammy wrote “ Once the leader of the kingdom was cleared (initates were tested), they would receive one of these crowns. Just as you described Paul.” Sammy, so which kingdom do I lead, from your first post on that thread? ’ Come on a Sammy, I am working with you here, take a punt. (I know you sort of answered that but you have misaligned responses here, you original and the one you explained above re changes (The kingdoms have changed a bit... more like localities of thought. Mindsets on how to rule the world and so on), but have the self confidence to take a punt.) Perhaps this is harder to describe then I imagined.. The common theme is "great influence". Obviously in our past the social structure was a bit flawed. Basically the down trend was kingdoms, to states of mind, to ways of life. Currently one would be picked for their influence toward others states of mind and ways of life. A kingdom shows separation, this is pursuing coexistence. An evolved state of mind. I hope this clears some things up. Punt away! You would be hard pressed to find one with tougher skin than I. 😉 I hope Thank you Sammy. I just know this problem, expressing accurately what you feel, and having the confidence to make a punt. Being right or wrong is less important after all it is a learning experience. The important bit is learning. Now the arrogant bit from me.. The best as I can work out, so far… 1. Somehow I feel that I have a responsibility to this planet. Lock stock and barrel. I have zero idea why. That is the basis from which my views on human evolution derive. 2. I also feel a duty and responsibility to the human race, it really does need to evolve fast. Again I can’t rationally explain why. It just is. 3. As a presumed U.S. spook said to me when we met a couple of decades ago, what interests them (CIA?) is that I am not after a buck, but for people to be nicer. That’s unusual. Nail hits hammer spot on. Again it just is what it is. 4. While I would have loved to be Secretary General of the United Nations, I really do not want to rule the world Sammy. Just rebalance it. But you know that I have essentially given up on that after two decades of being ignored, ridiculed and given grief for trying. Besides I can do that after Mother Nature and Father Time come calling again, by reporting upwards. Besides it really is getting a bit too late. Or perhaps piloting a ufo to bug you all!
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 6:31:40 GMT 9.5
Sammy You seem to be equivocating, find the self confidence to stick to your guns and take that punt. Believe me when I say I am trying as much as possible. The trouble is that everything is relative. Consistency is nowhere on the map.. It’s worth repeating… I just know this problem, expressing accurately what you feel, and having the confidence to make a punt. Being right or wrong is less important after all it is a learning experience. The important bit is learning. Find a point you feel comfortable with and place a stick in the sand there. Work relatively from that. When the stick wants to move, let it, and work relatively from there, accounting for the positional difference. Just a thought.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 6:43:19 GMT 9.5
Sammy
Like everything in our world, it’s mathematics.
Put talented mathematicians in a room with intuitive insight and technology, you get mobile phones and self driving cars (that’s the much mocked, widely used, Baysians maths, which hint hint can empower intuitive applications). Though they would be better fully computerised if possible, perhaps that is where AI is headed.
Work the maths as best you can. Self driving cars work of best guesses, which is why they struggle with edge events. Maths is the basis for intuitive applications. Those who mock it miss that. From Turings Bombs in ww2, through phones to self driving cars and one day (if not already in spook land somewhere) intuitive applications, is all maths, and refining guesswork.
It’s maths Sammy.
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Post by sammy on Oct 8, 2022 8:30:03 GMT 9.5
Sammy Like everything in our world, it’s mathematics. Put talented mathematicians in a room with intuitive insight and technology, you get mobile phones and self driving cars (that’s the much mocked, widely used, Baysians maths, which hint hint can empower intuitive applications). Though they would be better fully computerised if possible, perhaps that is where AI is headed. Work the maths as best you can. Self driving cars work of best guesses, which is why they struggle with edge events. Maths is the basis for intuitive applications. Those who mock it miss that. From Turings Bombs in ww2, through phones to self driving cars and one day (if not already in spook land somewhere) intuitive applications, is all maths, and refining guesswork. It’s maths Sammy. There are various ways to show how math is flawed encapsulating 3 dimensions let alone higher ones. Here is one I described earlier. So what is it with the 45 vs 90? My job I face it everyday. A unit of measurement on a plane, when compared with a equal length measurement at 45 degrees. Even though the angle is half that of the plane, does not meet the plane halfway. The two lines are exactly same length. Yet one is at 45 and does not end at the middle or even close to it. 45 degrees in this understanding does not equal half of 90 degrees. Is this to show the importance of perspective? From the point it all makes sense.. try to square it and things become washy. Case in point. A square inch is not 1 inch corner to corner. The measurements to make sense requires a circle with the perspective from center. Bottom of page 9. a406.proboards.com/thread/1678/holy-grail?page=9This shows even math is relative. The truth of our "advancements" may surprise you. Math has a function absolutely.. just not a supreme one in my opinion.
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Post by sammy on Oct 8, 2022 8:59:34 GMT 9.5
"I really do not want to rule the world Sammy"
Part of the debate of crown visuals..
The point of the crown was not to be 1 to rule over all.
The point was to give assistance to the one who others listened to most. Decreasing the time needed to reach harmony among all. That worked out great... no shortcuts in life.
To be 1 of many not 1 over all. Again no crown was needed for anyone to achieve the effect the crown creates.
To "wear the crown" would mean you uphold the sanctity of life and are willing to defend it at all cost. To protect the progression of life and its surroundings.
It would be joining a cause of many to include everyone on a future truly free and equal with unending potential.
I know these passions sing to your heart, and I suspect is why "you".
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Post by paul on Oct 8, 2022 9:50:31 GMT 9.5
> wonder if it is part of a rebalancing device?
Whose thought is that? Move on!
> I feel that I have a responsibility to this planet. Lock stock and barrel. I have zero idea why.
Quite so, but your mind at present cannot resonate properly with the Intent that underlies the vertical flow of Light through your head
The Flame exercise is central and your personality will progressively become transparent allowing a relatively pure subset of the Light-Intent to manifest through you
Do not concern yourself with mechanisms. Divine Intent will make straight its own way
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 12:10:37 GMT 9.5
> wonder if it is part of a rebalancing device? Whose thought is that? Move on! > I feel that I have a responsibility to this planet. Lock stock and barrel. I have zero idea why. Quite so, but your mind at present cannot resonate properly with the Intent that underlies the vertical flow of Light through your head The Flame exercise is central and your personality will progressively become transparent allowing a relatively pure subset of the Light-Intent to manifest through you Do not concern yourself with mechanisms. Divine Intent will make straight its own way while I have worked on my flame, through instinct, for many years now, I will put some serious effort into your approach Paul. It is currently 3.20am here, and I have, admittedly quickly worked through the exercise, to get an initial overview. But I am tired, I took steroids yesterday which does mess with sleep, and I do suffer peripheral neuropathy, especially in my feet. Immediate observations.. (bearing in mind I can connect with the Earth and above using different more instinctive techniques) 1. Unless it becomes obvious, my feet tingle at the best of times due to (I am told) steroid related peripheral neuropathy, so this might be a problem. It isn’t a problem with my instinctive approach that just works for me. 2. You asked us to note the size of the flame and it’s colour. I remember when I first felt mine, it was a tiny speck surrounded by numerous seeds of darkness. It took many years and much effort to give it room to breath and in time live free. Just now I was a bit shocked as it has grown more than I had expected (nowadays I work by instinctive feel, not the rotational and visual way you do Paul). The tip of its flame now tickles my throat. But applying your method to my throat did show a clear blockage remains. I have already worked successfully on at least part of that previously. I can still feel it now as I type this, perhaps ten minutes or so after doing it. Interestingly it hasn’t shown itself to be a problem in practice, but I guess clearing it would improve my connection so as noted above I will put serious effort into your technique here. 3. Re flame colour, mine was a pure white, it was interesting getting the surrounding tinge you recommend. Easy enough to do, but it really was surrounding it, with no obvious connection to the pure flame. But it moved through my body easy enough. 4. Interestingly as I type this, so I put it down to note it, get the feeling that I can get my pure white flame, transparent white if I wanted to. No idea what that means, and not something I am not presently inclined to try. I prefer natural evolution where possible, only forcing things when necessary. 5. I notice you recommended a minimum of twice a day. So not as to interfere with other things, while I will seriously practice this I will, for now, limit it to once a day. I have a way that works for me and frankly don’t want to risk losing that. Though appreciate that if your way identifies blockages eg in my throat still, that is of real value. Again Thank you Paul.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 13:02:38 GMT 9.5
"I really do not want to rule the world Sammy" Part of the debate of crown visuals.. The point of the crown was not to be 1 to rule over all. The point was to give assistance to the one who others listened to most. Decreasing the time needed to reach harmony among all. That worked out great... no shortcuts in life. To be 1 of many not 1 over all. Again no crown was needed for anyone to achieve the effect the crown creates. To "wear the crown" would mean you uphold the sanctity of life and are willing to defend it at all cost. To protect the progression of life and its surroundings. It would be joining a cause of many to include everyone on a future truly free and equal with unending potential. I know these passions sing to your heart, and I suspect is why "you". Sammy, please bear in mind is 4.06am here, so my thoughts may get muddled. 1. ‘To "wear the crown" would mean you uphold the sanctity of life and are willing to defend it at all cost. To protect the progression of life and its surroundings.’ Have you considered that I might have been trying to do this for two decades already? Hence why the need for a crown? Especially one Paul has stated somewhere on here iirc that I should stay away from? Paul please correct if I am misremembering as I tire. Also consider that…. A. My preferred approach nowadays to report back and help enable a global human evolution also satisfies this. Home Erectus. Homo Sapien..homo whatever comes next are all the human race at different evolutionary stages. B. Which then begs the though why now for the Crown? After I have chosen a different path to human evolution? Might this not have been better in the two decades I was actively trying, but got ignored, ridiculed and grief? So why now? It would mean me changing back to a method that would take longer, and where my input would be limited by time and resources (that you don’t think I need, but which I am very sure I would to have even a half decent chance of success given where humanity is at this point in time, as often explained before)? 2. ‘ I know these passions sing to your heart, and I suspect is why "you".’. Makes sense Sammy, but again I retort there must be better quailified people out there than me. After all I doubt that I am alone in wanting people to be nicer, and the rebalancing of this planet. In a way it seems a bit like “eek we have screwed up, get him back onboard before he dies and things are forced on us from above”. But without realising that the screw up in global energy flows between humans within nations, between nations, and between other kingdoms on this planet, is so bad that real buy in is now needed, globally. And time, well frankly, it has been left a bit late. I offered, I was ignored. I tried, I failed. I really am happy to move on and recommend human evolution from above. I just don’t see the global powers that be suddenly buying in, until they realise that they have left it too late. Then it really is too late. Just now it is iffy at best. Look what is happening in my country Britain just now, look at the challenges the U.S. face, what is happening with China, ww3 risk, climatic issues, not to mention numerous other crises result from darkness gripping this planet. Pragmatism and realism have there place. Do you have any real comprehension at how much I would have to do, in frankly inadequate timescales to have any real chance of success? I would annoy the banks, fund managers etc who would be irritated by my dress me slowly for I am in a hurry approach. Some nations, corporations and parts of religions might fear me, all while trying to nurse our world away from global war, the Thucydides trap, the rebalancing of the planet in many ways, all while I was skilling up? And much of my skilling up could reasonably if incorrectly viewed as lifestyle, which really would only account for a few percent of it. I tried, I failed, I can see how the results can be gained from Gods intervention as opposed to, the admittedly vastly preferable natural human evolution, that frankly our world is moving backwards on. Ie de-evolving into darkness. If someone else can get the job done naturally let then try. I would be happy to see them succeed where I failed.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 8, 2022 19:15:24 GMT 9.5
Anyhow let’s move on. Enough of going around in circles.
Thank you all.
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Post by sammy on Oct 8, 2022 21:07:50 GMT 9.5
Anyhow let’s move on. Enough of going around in circles. Thank you all. Agreed.. Paul's suggestion is best. Ignore divine devices for now. Atleast till you got some sleep silly boy! I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. Stay safe brother!
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Post by paul on Oct 8, 2022 22:09:41 GMT 9.5
>Re flame colour, mine was a pure white
It looks like a global change. Those that have done the Flame previously might like to do it again and compare the current colours with those of earlier exercises
What differences have occurred?
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Post by sammy on Oct 8, 2022 23:23:12 GMT 9.5
>Re flame colour, mine was a pure white It looks like a global change. Those that have done the Flame previously might like to do it again and compare the current colours with those of earlier exercises What differences have occurred? Wow.. havnt focused on color for a while. Thanks Paul! Last I looked was light blue. Now it seems to be prisms from the spectrum of gold light. Almost reminds me of glitter.
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 9, 2022 3:24:15 GMT 9.5
>Re flame colour, mine was a pure white It looks like a global change. Those that have done the Flame previously might like to do it again and compare the current colours with those of earlier exercises What differences have occurred? Paul, why do you think this has happened?
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Post by paul on Oct 9, 2022 11:34:40 GMT 9.5
>why do you think this has happened?
Although humans have varying stellar sources for their vertical streams of white light, it seems that the substance used for the Flame is planetary substance - and thus part of the body of the Planetary Logos.
It seems that this solar system is being called to step up quite quickly, even at the risk of taking some humans (and others) before they are quite ready in the usual progression.
Thus it seems that the Planetary Logos is pushing various kingdoms ahead of the natural cycle so that the Earth may take its proper role in the upgraded solar system
The Earth may have some kidney-like functions, accumulating/separating waste products on behalf of the solar system. But as we know, the kidney has higher functions including intake of Life Force from the greater system. Thus the Earth can be seen has having incoming flows from other star systems including the Sirian and Pleiadian.
So time to step up!
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 9, 2022 21:46:19 GMT 9.5
>why do you think this has happened? Although humans have varying stellar sources for their vertical streams of white light, it seems that the substance used for the Flame is planetary substance - and thus part of the body of the Planetary Logos. It seems that this solar system is being called to step up quite quickly, even at the risk of taking some humans (and others) before they are quite ready in the usual progression. Thus it seems that the Planetary Logos is pushing various kingdoms ahead of the natural cycle so that the Earth may take its proper role in the upgraded solar system The Earth may have some kidney-like functions, accumulating/separating waste products on behalf of the solar system. But as we know, the kidney has higher functions including intake of Life Force from the greater system. Thus the Earth can be seen has having incoming flows from other star systems including the Sirian and Pleiadian. So time to step up! Oh poop! As a child Orion was clearly my comfort. Reflecting back that is obvious to me now. As a child it was simply Orion as being where I always looked. As I grew up, Sirius, and later the Pleiades become important. Nowadays the three work well in conjunction with me. As you know, Orion does seem to want me to keep going (potentially for another quarter of a century), while Sirius is happy at my choice to report back when my cancer or later liver get me. Pleiades seems neutral in this. But to your point re planetary progression Paul, I agree. Why do you think I have been pushing thought in multiple fields for two decades? Remember also, I have a nagging feeling that I have a level of responsibility for and to this planet. But, given the visible (I do stress visible as I may have helped enable many bits of progress that I am simply unaware off) results of my work, it hasn’t had much effect beyond, ridicule and grief. So, from my perspective, based on the evidence and data I have, my analysis is that I have some small successes, confirmed by feedback in the real world (eg people thanking me), but most of my work has had little to no impact, so my judgement is that, given my responsibilities, the Sirian path of reporting back and recommending intervention from above, given the, frankly, immediate timescales over the next quarter of a century, is optimal. But I am well aware of the Orion energy, which like you seems to have its fingers crossed that I will ‘step up’ again. I know you disagree with my view that to have any realistic chance of success, at this point in time, I would need (1) enablement, freedom and time in the real world, and (2) considerable financial resources. Reason, time is short and the easiest way to deal with the fundamental key planetary problem (from which other problems flow) of money addiction, is to get stuck in there and deal with it from within the financial system through significant targeted donations and investments, designed to hand hold our way out of addiction. Ego, corruption, power desires etc, will then as a consequence settle down. This will have positive effects on warmongering etc. Dealing with general bulling etc will take a slightly different focus, but this will help. The end result is a fair chance at global rebalancing harmoniously. Esoteric work obviously need done re the inter kingdom balance, where as you know my focus is on oceanography as that affects most things through the air sea interface. As a summary that will do. How you,Paul, or anyone else for that matter, expect me to achieve what needs to be achieved purely esoterically is beyond me. Sure I could potentially gently manipulate energy threads, but the law of unintended consequences puts a brake on that in any way that could achieve the same results. Why? Esoteric work only provides the framework and changing the framework will cause resistance at a fundamental level (ie could incite war etc as real life key players feel uncertain and outwith their comfort zone), and cause specific nations to demand through law it torture or blackmail or kidnappings, that things are done to their specific advantage. In simple terms our world is too broken at the real life physical level for too much framework repair and growth, at this point in time. In can only support while the real work happens in the real world, in peoples hearts. And that, as I have explained umpteen times would take stupid sums of money etc. Yes, you have all the risks of kidnapping, blackmail etc as well, but there also security services and police forces that can handle that where it is clear and visible. But overall, we are already in the, it’s a bit too late, and that is worsening day by day. I offered in plenty of time. My conscience is clear, though I accept that it would be better for human powers that be, whether political, corporate, etc for the Orion route, (ie they could keep their power subject to their local electoral rules), whereas the Sirian route will raise everyone up together, which risks them losing everything if they can’t adapt to hearts opening globally abruptly. But from a planetary perspective that does have a better chance of success. Though I do agree with you Paul, the Orion way would be ‘better’ in that it enables the evolution to be natural as opposed to imposed. Again I offered, I tried to help, I was ignored, ridiculed and given grief. I tried I failed. So what has changed? Coutts haven’t called me yet. I would need far more real world evidence that just you Paul, for me to risk losing the Sirian approach success potential, to try for a second time the Orion way, given frankly, how little time there is to actually get to where this planet needs to be. I do jest about £3.5 trillion cash, but given the timescales that isn’t as ludicrous as it sounds to actually have the results. Fortunately I do have a lot of relevant experiences from esoterics to real world qualifications in economics, accountancy, and have studied the likes of oceanography on a meaty university course. Paul now bangs his head against a brick wall.
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Post by paul on Oct 10, 2022 10:23:05 GMT 9.5
>the easiest way to deal with the fundamental key planetary problem ...is to get stuck in there and deal with it from within the financial system
From what I have read, about 10% of donations to Ukraine get to their intended use. Perhaps the more money, the more parasites
> achieve what needs to be achieved purely esoterically
Start with intent. I doubt that your humanness is qualified/authorised to choose implementation paths
> we are already in the, it’s a bit too late
In WW2, the British were very keen to discourage defeatist thoughts.
The Artemis Accords are an outer sign of a multi-plane multi-timepath multi-species impulse to straighten the way for the Galactic Logos in this arm of the galaxy.
If it is not possible to be positive then it is better to be neutral. Is that an official communication?
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Post by stewartedwards on Oct 10, 2022 16:19:53 GMT 9.5
>the easiest way to deal with the fundamental key planetary problem ...is to get stuck in there and deal with it from within the financial system From what I have read, about 10% of donations to Ukraine get to their intended use. Perhaps the more money, the more parasites > achieve what needs to be achieved purely esoterically Start with intent. I doubt that your humanness is qualified/authorised to choose implementation paths > we are already in the, it’s a bit too late In WW2, the British were very keen to discourage defeatist thoughts. The Artemis Accords are an outer sign of a multi-plane multi-timepath multi-species impulse to straighten the way for the Galactic Logos in this arm of the galaxy. If it is not possible to be positive then it is better to be neutral. Is that an official communication? Paul 1. Globally there is much donation leakage due to corruption and profiteering. It’s a huge global problem. But to deal with it you have to deal with it. And we are then back to dealing with the darkness of money addiction etc. I understand that this issue frustrates many donors. 2. Rightly or wrongly I do believe that I do have a choice between the two previously stated approaches. It’s quite a responsibility. It’s easiest to deal with by thinking like an auditor. 3. My thoughts aren’t defeatist Paul. Far from it, they just differ from yours here. Auditing, reporting back and recommending God intervenes more directly again could well be the optimal solution to this planets problems, given where we currently are. Remember the point, human evolution and planetary rebalancing/stability. 4. Funnily enough I have been doing my best to be neutral, hence my approach. 5. Remember Paul, while Homo sapiens evolving naturally is ideal, we have visibly regressed. If you look at the issues from a planetary perspective, not a homo Sapien perspective then, different solutions could well be more effective. You might not like Gods intervention once again as a solution, if for no other reason than it indicates our failures. But that is a decision for God. All I can do is analyse, make judgements and report back. That is all positive. Audit neutrally, report back. 6. As I keep saying if there is anyone, literally anyone, else out there who could better kick start human evolution again, and help rebalance this planet, at this critical juncture, let them. They will have my support. If they can do it esoterically without getting stuck into where the key problems are (money) without money, freedom, time and buy in, then brilliant. Get them doing it. In the meantime I will keep doing what I do.
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