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Post by paul on Mar 9, 2014 7:41:36 GMT 9.5
Ok how about this... Time is relative. So the more bad things we encounter the slower this rotation is "time is dragging". Getting further from the core. When we are having fun "time flies", being a faster rotation. So what is happening when "time flies". Does the flow of time change? I recall a friend who drove from France to Germany at night in the rain. He said that the distance traveled and the time taken gave an average speed that was much faster than he was driving. He said time warps happened to him quite often.
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Post by sammy on Mar 9, 2014 7:55:21 GMT 9.5
Never really thought of that HAHA but I have noticed it too.
I would always have great drive times when I was delivering. I went over most of the NW USA, in a 32 foot truck. I would usually have a helper, and if we got along I would always end up completing my route in a faster time then usual. When I would drive solo over night and I was tired and bored, the drive would end up taking longer then usual. I was sometimes able to cut a hour and a half off my usual times. I had attributed most of this to good team work and bad team work, but I also had the other notion in the back of my mind.
Thanks for the story!
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Post by paul on Mar 9, 2014 19:43:48 GMT 9.5
Al Bielek gives a lecture dealing with the mechanics of time and time flow - about 25 minutes in. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMir5NTkI80He refers to the need to damp the reflected (reinforcing) time waves between experiments set up in 1943 and 1983 including the waves going forward in time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 20:05:18 GMT 9.5
I'll make some assumptions in order to lay a little ground work as a starting point for a little theory on this:
1) Our brains process an enormous amount of data continuously 2) We can parallel process information concurrently 3) We can allocate more or less consciousness to any aspect of 'reality' that we wish to, dependent on the 'gravity' of the situation and more or less on the person's skill to be able do so at will. 4) We have a common, objective time, that we experience as a shared consciousness in this local space-time. 5) We slice up the objective time according to events (data points) we experience, this is a function of the amount of consciousness we allocate to experiencing that reality. More focus/concentration/consciousness equals more data. 6) In this physical reality the personal perception of time is within the framework of an objective time
I have experienced moments in life in which time seemed to slow down, playing sports, a car crash etc. I think most people would relate to this. My understanding is that in these moments we are allocating much more processing power to the moment, more data is being processed, i.e. we are processing more micro-events in a given slice of 'real-time' than we normally would. Movie producers take advantage of this when slowing down events in movies, our brains translate this illusion, as the event having more significance, which is a powerful tool, and should not be overused in a movie as it snaps us out of the illusion and spoils the experience.
I have the feeling, that when bad/challenging things, for example, happen, that consciousness is more focused in the moment, by necessity or intention, and therefore time appears to move more slowly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 20:13:38 GMT 9.5
I'll post it in this thread as it has more to do with time. Further to Sammy's interesting -0+ The Mind Tool, Wolfgang Pauli had a mandala he called the World Clock The Vision of the World Clock
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Post by sammy on Mar 9, 2014 23:16:44 GMT 9.5
I cant watch the vid yet paul, volume off till every ones awake. But I will get back to it.
I would agree though fibon, I think it has to do with focusing our conscious power and slowing down the rotations. Then with less focus on the moment having fun, and letting the moments fly by because we are looking for the next one. Looking ahead of the moment rather.
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Post by sammy on Mar 9, 2014 23:20:35 GMT 9.5
I'll post it in this thread as it has more to do with time. Further to Sammy's interesting -0+ The Mind Tool, Wolfgang Pauli had a mandala he called the World Clock The Vision of the World ClockMany similarities! Thanks for posting it! Im interested to see what the story is behind this diagram.
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Post by sammy on Mar 9, 2014 23:34:20 GMT 9.5
It seems to me Pauli and Jung were very close. Perhaps they should have spent more time working together instead of against. Here is Jung's view.
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Post by sammy on Mar 10, 2014 0:42:33 GMT 9.5
Al Bielek gives a lecture dealing with the mechanics of time and time flow - about 25 minutes in. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMir5NTkI80He refers to the need to damp the reflected (reinforcing) time waves between experiments set up in 1943 and 1983 including the waves going forward in time. This all reminds me of my story. Looking inside to get back to the black and white players. Perhaps the experiments worked just not in the way they thought it would. To get to the end we just need to go forward right? The less time needed the better I say. So we have a ingrained genetic diagram readable by our consciousness, that only requires a vessel to do so. Would Earth be considered a vessel?
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Post by sammy on Mar 10, 2014 0:45:24 GMT 9.5
My only issue is, did the vessel survive and not the sailors? 40 years ahead and not just totally gone. Our tissues can handle some perty strong forces, but I don't think light speed might be one of them. Just the thought of what happens to mass gives me nightmares.
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Post by sammy on Mar 10, 2014 1:46:34 GMT 9.5
OK so lets say we have a invention that can access the door outside of space/time. Now If we exist outside of space time, and we exist inside space/time. We would have our destinations be set by who we are, what we know, etc... In this case it was 40 years ahead, but the occupants of the vessel had different destinations. So the 40 years would have been the total average, that the sailors could jump ahead. Since they had different times as destination, they left the vessel during transit. * Please Keep Hands and Feet Inside the Rollercoaster At All Times. * HAHA
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Post by paul on Mar 10, 2014 7:23:59 GMT 9.5
My only issue is, did the vessel survive and not the sailors? 40 years ahead and not just totally gone. Our tissues can handle some perty strong forces, but I don't think light speed might be one of them. Just the thought of what happens to mass gives me nightmares. Bielek maintains that the two experiments were identified as suitable anchors for time manipulation and used to set up a resonance across 40 years that distorted time and allowed entry of large motherships, hence the huge increase in alien activity post 1943. He maintains that a non-government operation restored the balance before the resonance of the time waves became great enough to (his approx words) strip off 500 feet of soil and rock from the East coast of the US to the Rockies, putting us (the US) back into the stone age. I am not in a position to refute his assertion.
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Post by sammy on Mar 10, 2014 15:57:37 GMT 9.5
Ill need to re watch the video It was hard to hear, and for some reason that guy makes my brain wanna shut off. Maybe its picking up on something im not, I dunno. I am gonna look into it a bit more though and get back to this.
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 0:12:26 GMT 9.5
I was thinking more about time flying. I was also thinking about death, and the possibility that we choose to die as well as be born. I have had times really sick and felt my body asking me to live or die. I just kept telling it to live, and luckily I broke the intense fever that night (I had strep throat and no meds). My wife was talking about how her mom had mentioned that she can see how really sick people want to give up. There comes a point we no longer will our body to keep ticking.
Then I remembered the Bible stories about how people used to live for hundreds of years, and in good health. Was it possible they were that happy back then? It would seem that way from some of the stories. Do we only have such a short life span because we are so unhappy on Earth, and our consciousness knows there is a body better suited for our will prematurely?
Its proven that stress can shorten your life.
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 0:16:56 GMT 9.5
Or maybe happiness is our conscious comfort zone. So it stays close to that time, in our case nowadays this would be childhood. Then it all gets pooped on once you get into adulthood. Keeping our physical life circling the shortest path to happiness.
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Post by paul on Mar 11, 2014 7:28:31 GMT 9.5
>Do we only have such a short life span because we are so unhappy on Earth, "The Myth of Adapa (also known as Adapa and the Food of Life) is the Mesopotamian story of the Fall of Man in that it explains why human beings are mortal. The god of wisdom, Ea, creates the first man, Adapa, and endows him with great intelligence and wisdom but not with immortality, and when immortality is offered Adapa by the great god Anu, Ea tricks Adapa into refusing the gift." www.ancient.eu.com/article/216/Adapa is offered the food and drink of the gods that they required on Earth to maintain immortality. Thus Adapa has the genetics for immortality but lacks the means to trigger that function. The same may be the case in modern humans. Both Daoism and alchemy are supposed to produce immortality when correctly practiced.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 11, 2014 8:28:51 GMT 9.5
Immortality. Of the physical body? Why? Almost everyone who survives death, is forced to come back here - told they cannot stay. They tell of a much more vibrant and wonderful world 'over there'. I personally think of this world as prison, or even hell - and I have a lovely home, family, job etc etc. But how can one be perfectly happy when we read the newspapers and see what happens elsewhere. Each story stabs one on the heart. We can try to help, but we know that in every day and age, the problems persist. I take the view of every life is a year at school, and thank goodness we get hol.y.days every now and then
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Post by paul on Mar 11, 2014 9:01:13 GMT 9.5
>Immortality. Of the physical body? Why?
Assuming that humans are not just decorative but actually have some work to do, it seems inefficient that it takes 50 or 60 years for a human to get his/her act together as a spiritual being, and then has 10+ years of productive planetary function before age takes away the capacity.
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Post by LorrB on Mar 11, 2014 9:04:41 GMT 9.5
... you need to talk to God about his plan ...
LOL
(sorry God)
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Post by paul on Mar 11, 2014 9:38:21 GMT 9.5
> you need to talk to God about his plan ...
Which god did you have in mind? St Paul tells us that there are many lords and many gods, both in heaven and in earth.
Perhaps the some of the antagonists in the war in the heavens have interfered with the human race - several times.
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