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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 9:59:10 GMT 9.5
I was meaning the world was on more of a happy keel. Expanding physical life, but because it wasn't global the bodies didn't reach eternity. I would lean toward what Lorr was thinking only because, the other side is where heaven is. If we close out the circle in every degree, all bodies would be home/heaven.
Infact I had considering the diagrams with all sides folded toward consciousness. Kinda interesting how it lines up, making the new circle inside.
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 13:46:20 GMT 9.5
Basicly this would be showing each side not being needed to exist.
1. a physical body, it will be seen as what it is and that's all. Leaving no conscious concern.
2. A closed spiritual path, being total belief in whats above. Leaving no conscious concern.
3. The lack of restraint from the past, because of the knowledge it has happened and cannot be changed and no more knowledge is needed for spiritual growth. Leaving no conscious concern.
4. The future will not be needed as we will be living in the conscious moment, and not looking ahead for what might stumble us on our path. Leaving no conscious concern.
All 4 bodies would be existing around a single conscious belief. Something like or a metaphor to "I am now".
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 13:48:51 GMT 9.5
I keep hearing the words "closing the eye". Meaning one for each side. Is there any reference to this?
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Post by LorrB on Mar 11, 2014 14:09:34 GMT 9.5
... capital G.
I was being silly, just because.
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 14:20:06 GMT 9.5
Making the G an O? Im not sure I understand. Silliness is always encouraged by me
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Post by paul on Mar 11, 2014 14:22:31 GMT 9.5
Basicly this would be showing each side not being needed to exist. 1. a physical body, it will be seen as what it is and that's all. Leaving no conscious concern. 2. A closed spiritual path, being total belief in whats above. Leaving no conscious concern. 3. The lack of restraint from the past, because of the knowledge it has happened and cannot be changed and no more knowledge is needed for spiritual growth. Leaving no conscious concern. 4. The future will not be needed as we will be living in the conscious moment, and not looking ahead for what might stumble us on our path. Leaving no conscious concern. All 4 bodies would be existing around a single conscious belief. Something like or a metaphor to "I am now". There are some interesting underpinnings here. One of them is that gnosis (knowing) reduces dependency on belief. For example the genuine first degree initiate does not believe that there is life beyond the physical because s/he knows that Life penetrates all. In some ways the past can be changed, particularly on an energy level, and there are various guided meditations that encourage people to transmute the past. Whether the past can be physically changed is more problematic but some of the Montauk literature gets into that. Living in the moment is an important goal for most people and there is more beyond, for example holding the vision for a future state for humanity.
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 14:34:27 GMT 9.5
No I agree that's what I mean. If the future state of humanity was sealed in a equal system. The eye would close.
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Post by sammy on Mar 11, 2014 14:49:11 GMT 9.5
Of course this would still leave the other 3 sides to close.
The body: getting all sides of the world to follow equality
The past: helping people get over the things they still are holding onto.
The mind: allowing people to discover their spiritual path and live it out
*in addition to our life timeline I was also noticing that the age timeline along the DNA, is centered at our "peak age" or 30ish. I was also noticing how most descriptions of loved ones or someone's spirit when reported, they are around this age.
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Post by sammy on Mar 12, 2014 0:14:52 GMT 9.5
So we started drawing on walls 30,000 years ago, allowing our memory to exist outside of our body. Then we came up with language 6,000 years ago. Which is a total amount of a grain of sand on the beach of the life span of Earth. Then like now, we stumble trying to get the thought from one mind to another. In any way or means possible. Through out all of this communication, there has always been a focus on the center. I think this is because we have been trying to describe something that is neither here nor there, but is either in between or everywhere. What we communicate is point of view (consciousness).
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Post by paul on Mar 12, 2014 7:33:44 GMT 9.5
>So we started drawing on walls 30,000 years ago The Sumerian accounts overtly start about 450 000 years ago when the Sumerian gods arrived on Earth. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/esp_sumer_annunaki14.htmNote that the above site refers to gods with buckets of water. It is rather more likely that those are hand bags carrying the bread of life, needed by the gods to maintain their immortality under our aging Sun.
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Post by sammy on Mar 12, 2014 8:26:18 GMT 9.5
>So we started drawing on walls 30,000 years ago The Sumerian accounts overtly start about 450 000 years ago when the Sumerian gods arrived on Earth. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/esp_sumer_annunaki14.htmNote that the above site refers to gods with buckets of water. It is rather more likely that those are hand bags carrying the bread of life, needed by the gods to maintain their immortality under our aging Sun. Thanks for that. It appears I had a bad source HAHA.
Still quite late in the Earth game though.
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Post by sammy on Mar 12, 2014 8:29:58 GMT 9.5
Is this also how Jesus referred to himself as the bread of life, or was that in a different context?
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Post by paul on Mar 12, 2014 8:37:33 GMT 9.5
>Is this also how Jesus referred to himself as the bread of life, or was that in a different context?
When the Sumerian literature was translated in the 19th century there was a degree of dismay that much of the Roman church's ritual and beliefs appeared in Sumer.
In Sumer the water of life and the bread of life gave immortality before death. The Roman church thought it better to make immortality available after death.
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Post by sammy on Mar 12, 2014 9:15:23 GMT 9.5
Ahh, lovely... HAHA thanks I would prefer to know before dying.
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Post by paul on Jul 7, 2017 7:12:17 GMT 9.5
I received this in an email:
"We’re moving into a little bit of an interesting time period here where things will be sort of on a time stretch, seemingly taking a long time and then in a very fast period or short sequence, so things moving almost too fast to keep moving with them.
So there is going to be this kind of odd sense of timing .... It’s also going to require practicing patience from time to time or literally speeding up to meet the energies at hand. And again short bursts of that, not sustained time periods of quick happenings. "
Does time really change speed? Or is the writer suggesting that energy changes coordinate the time perception of humans?
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Post by paul on Oct 12, 2018 10:57:09 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 13, 2018 14:25:46 GMT 9.5
I will have to wait a bit to buy the book but sounds cool. Thanks for bringing back this thread though, what a fun one!
I was recently telling my son about a strange conundrum with consciousness/imagination. It was something I had come up with when I was younger after learning about Schrodinger's cat. I love cats and couldnt stand the experiment. Science is real, and that cat was dead. Anyway, HAHA. I used the top of a water bottle then but I will use a period for this.
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This dot is something we can all see and focus onto. In this dot even on your screen is made of numerous atoms. You can even see in your minds eye a single atom, with neutrons and protons spinning around the nucleus. You might have even added the lines that they follow on their path.
So can we say we for sure if we have just seen the atom in the dot, or not?
If we all saw the same atom in our mind, was that the same atom?
This whole time travel discussion got me thinking about all this. We cannot change the past, but in our minds we can alter it into the future. We cannot determine our future, but we can guide it through our past.
This brings us to our consciousness, it never is truly in the now. As soon as you think of "now" the next moment is already upon you awaiting another command. I think our consciousness is something stuck in between "time" and "space". Neither one is very viable in our mental travelings. Their is studies saying our subconscious can be as vast as space itself. Like a mirror of reality in each of our heads.
This brings us to perspective. Everything is relative, but only relative to every perspective. What makes us separate is our perspective of "life". Life can mean anything because it exists relative to that person. There is many paths, but not all the paths bring more together. A reality becomes more "believable" when it is validated by the other realities that share the belief.
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Post by paul on Oct 13, 2018 15:26:06 GMT 9.5
>We cannot change the past A common proposition but it rather depends on who is the "we". >We cannot determine our future Certainly we can choose between paths to the future, and it is common to have deja vu experiences that might suggest some flexibility in time perspective. >consciousness, it never is truly in the now Awareness is not the same as consciousness. Can awareness extend across many time points? >A reality becomes more "believable" I am not sure that is the best use of the term Reality. It is certainly common for people to live in an emotional/mental bubble and their bubbles may be similar to those of their social groups. The bubbles however start to disperse when the humans become functional on 5.6 a406.proboards.com/thread/973/21-steps-enlightenment
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Post by sammy on Oct 14, 2018 0:06:49 GMT 9.5
>We cannot change the past A common proposition but it rather depends on who is the "we". >We cannot determine our future Certainly we can choose between paths to the future, and it is common to have deja vu experiences that might suggest some flexibility in time perspective. >consciousness, it never is truly in the now Awareness is not the same as consciousness. Can awareness extend across many time points? >A reality becomes more "believable" I am not sure that is the best use of the term Reality. It is certainly common for people to live in an emotional/mental bubble and their bubbles may be similar to those of their social groups. The bubbles however start to disperse when the humans become functional on 5.6 a406.proboards.com/thread/973/21-steps-enlightenmentI do not think the past is changeable or attainable to anyone. Consider for a second if you only knew the beginning and the end of a complete existence, the parts in between were what make the beginning and the end important and so must be completed all by the in between. You have seen the end though and know it will always happen regardless the in between, but it still has to come to pass. You would never alter such a structure, just start it and wait. For ourselves I don't think we can for reasons involving physics. We have proven if moving fast enough the future time can be altered from one perspective to another. This is time moving forward requires two perspectives at zero then one gets a massive acceleration. So to go back in time you would have to have two perspective at zero, and one would need massive deceleration. Not just stopping things, because that would just be zero. How do you unmove something at all let alone at high speeds? If you just reversed the acceleration you would just be going really fast in the opposite direction, and altering future again. About awareness, this is what I think we call it when using past to guide the future. We can use our senses of deduction to determine possible outcomes. But we cannot determine every variable. We take knowledge(past) and piece things together in a way we become "aware" of something we werent before. So when the next time happens involving that new knowledge we will have a more desired outcome. About realities, I understand where you are coming from. But not all our realities are like this. Some are delusional (crafted through beliefs), some are broken (schizophrenia, dementia), they can even easily get inflated with ego. The social cliches you are talking about are exactly what I mean in my statement. People will flock with those of a like mind, because it fits our own reality more. In our perspective, we just feel more comfortable or "at home".
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Post by paul on Oct 14, 2018 6:34:46 GMT 9.5
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