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Post by LorrB on Feb 14, 2013 15:20:54 GMT 9.5
As the dish-shape was focused upward towards the stone block to be levitated it would be expected that some type of reaction would take place which had an effect on the mass. The geometric shape of the cavity does seem to be engineered in such a way the projected frequency vortex causes a reciprocal reaction to the mass harmonic of each block. The reciprocal of 0.484813682 = 2.062648055 Twice this value: = 4.12529611 The square of this value: = 17.018068 (the harmonic of mass at the earth's surface.17018068
I believe that there is not much doubt that the Tibetans had possession of the secrets relating to the geometric structure of matter, and the methods of manipulating the harmonic values, but if we can grasp the mathematical theory behind the incident, and extend the application, then an even more fascinating idea presents itself.
www.crystalinks.com/levitationtibet.html
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Post by paul on Feb 15, 2013 7:50:55 GMT 9.5
.... With the introduction of speculatives the Craft was transformed into a repository of the Ancient Wisdom ... This is an interesting proposition but perhaps not as obvious as it may seem. From what I have read the operatives in 1700 had aspects of esoteric knowledge that still is not in speculative Masonry e.g. the relationship of TMH to the pole star. That relationship seems to have been known in ancient Egypt but I wonder what the line of transmission was since the hieroglyphs had not been translated. And the speculatives of 1717 not only did not have the genuine secrets but also did not have the 3rd degree - but that degree was immediately accepted as ancient with little or no murmuring, quite surprising in such a traditionalist body. Could there have been another line of esoteric knowledge that patronised both operative and speculative Masonry?
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Post by paul on Feb 15, 2013 8:52:45 GMT 9.5
...The rank-and-file have little commerce with angels or elementals ... The knocks are used to call elementals as well as humans to order. The rhythms of the knocks differ to call different entities. E.g. !!!!!! !
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Post by LorrB on Feb 15, 2013 9:31:37 GMT 9.5
Could there have been another line of esoteric knowledge that patronised both operative and speculative Masonry? The Comte de St Germain (Prince Racozky?) travelled to China, Japan and Persia, where he lived in the court of the Shah. He was well known as far as Rome and Calcutta, India. Saint-Germain spoke English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and French with a Piedmontese accent, Greek, Latin Sanskrit, and Chinese with the fluency of a native. Saint-Germain was a known illuminist, freemason, and Knight Templar. The memoirs of Cagliostro tell of how he was initiated into the Knights Templar by the hands of Comte de Saint Germain. He is also certainly known to be part of the Rosicrucian Order and with their infatuation with Alchemy, it wouldn't unreasonable to assume he was the head of that order. " This pupil of Hindu and Egyptian hierophants, this holder of the secret knowledge of the East," theosophist Madam Blavatsky says of him, "was not appreciated for who he was. The stupid world has always treated in this way men who, like Saint-Germain, have returned to it after long years of seclusion devoted to study with their hands full of the treasure of esoteric wisdom and with the hope of making the world better, wiser and happier."St Germain–France-Knights Templar-Scotland–Newton (the Alchemist)-UGLE. St Germain-French Revolution-Benjamin Franklin-US Freemasonry.
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Post by paul on Feb 15, 2013 9:37:14 GMT 9.5
There seems to have been a source of knowledge behind the Templars e.g. the technology of the gothic arch (the first gothic cathedrals were the biggest - i.e. there was no learning curve) and the new banking system. That alone would not have been sufficient for 9 knights to become the most powerful military and economic force in Europe in a century, so there must have been more.
Perhaps there was and is a hidden stream of knowledge. Knowledge is power!
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Post by LorrB on Feb 15, 2013 11:16:30 GMT 9.5
I am usually earthbound when concentrating on the Opening and Closing ceremonies... ie equating the ceremony with lines of communication within our various bodies.
I can see it would be beneficial to expand that outlook. ie alter the intent. Gives me the shudders though to think of representing the human race... (god help us.)
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Post by paul on Feb 15, 2013 11:38:28 GMT 9.5
The human standing in the temple in the heavens assists in structuring and unfolding relationships including between nature spirits (lesser devas) and angels (greater devas)
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Post by LorrB on Feb 15, 2013 12:53:40 GMT 9.5
I can imagine that.
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Post by category error on Feb 15, 2013 18:27:15 GMT 9.5
In what sense is this Ritual for a new Masonry masonic?
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Post by stewartedwards on Feb 15, 2013 18:49:52 GMT 9.5
Category Error From visiting a number of masonic lodges, including being shown around, been part of an open working ceremony, and from being around a lodge as it was being prepared several times, I can assure you that different lodges have different energies. A bit like when you go somewhere and it feels right or wrong or bland or awesome. A couple of these lodges literally knocked me off my feet, let me explain a few (others were mainly bland). 1. One, an UGLE one, in GQS, upon entering I could literally feel the good work that had been done in there. The Lodge humbled me, and it was just a small one, used to be the Grand Secretaries office at one time I believe. Yet others in thebuilding are totally bland. Even Grand Lodge, with the exception of the Egyptian Goddesses on the inner doors does little for me in this regard - I feel more its oppulence than anything else. 2. Another in LDH, as soon as I entered I was overwhelmed and the UK GM went to make me a cuppa while I sat down and took it in. He seemed suprised/impressed(?) when I explained some of my feelings and we chatted about them. Later I found out this was common in the lodges of LDH. Some think it impossible for non members to acces such things, but I did in front of the GM. 3. Another Lodge I felt pain and sadness. 4. Another I felt invigouration and marvelled at how chains literally from across our globe came together in harmony. Anyhow Category Error you ask how what has been written by yoru brothers above can be masonic. Well I can assure you as an independent observer that the masonic world is full of such things, and anyone who is sufficiently sensitive can feel the harmonic balance within a lodge. It really is much more than simply marching round and performing plays. I would suggest you try visiting other Grand Lodges and see for yourself for in the company of those who can feel you might get a glimpse that could enable you on your own journey of self discovery, but as this would most likley be against your rules I wont, for rules are important. But even within UGLE you can find lodges that do understand this sort of stuff, though I understand through the grapevine that there is an active closing down backlash going on at the moment, with (at least I am told) one such lodge being closed already, and others within the target sights. It you have any doubts about the existance of such knowled in UGLE and amity lodges you could read www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1444710613/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEWitten by an ugle mason and he talks extensively about what his lodge do. I can understand why UGLE might be a bit upset about it but his lodge has produced a long line of esoteric masonic authors who have inspired a large number of masons and non masons alike globally over the years.
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Post by category error on Feb 15, 2013 18:56:20 GMT 9.5
Anyhow Category Error you ask how what has been written by yoru brothers above can be masonic. Well I can assure you as an independent observer that the masonic world is full of such things, and anyone who is sufficiently sensitive can feel the harmonic balance within a lodge. It really is much more than simply marching round and performing plays. Freemasonry does not have a monopoly on initiations and rituals.
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Post by LorrB on Feb 16, 2013 12:28:08 GMT 9.5
One would hope not.
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Post by category error on Feb 18, 2013 11:28:05 GMT 9.5
So In what sense is this Ritual for a new Masonry masonic?
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2013 12:05:43 GMT 9.5
An excellent question! Worthy of a new thread.
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Post by category error on Feb 18, 2013 12:15:38 GMT 9.5
An excellent question! Worthy of a new thread. A good question left unanswered.
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2013 12:22:20 GMT 9.5
Let us establish first the meaning of Masonic. A new thread beckons!
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Post by category error on Feb 18, 2013 12:42:06 GMT 9.5
Let us establish first the meaning of Masonic. A new thread beckons! While you may not yet now what it is to be masonic, it is at least premature to assume that your new ritual is masonic.
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2013 12:50:31 GMT 9.5
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Post by Meaning on Feb 18, 2013 12:59:17 GMT 9.5
Of or pertaining to Freemasonry.
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Post by paul on Feb 18, 2013 13:08:10 GMT 9.5
So what then is Freemasonry? Of or pertaining to speculative Masonry?
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