Post by stepnwolf on Dec 12, 2012 22:54:55 GMT 9.5
The Grand Master of Masons for the state of Florida in November has ruled to exclude any Bro. who subscribes to a belief system contrary, he believes, to the ancient landmarks of the fraternity. In his view this includes "Paganism, Wiccan and Odinism, and secondarily Agnosticism and Gnosticism." (see glflamason.org/documents/Monthly%20Mail/11-Nov/2012/3%20Grand%20Master%27s%20Ruling%20and%20Decision%20No%20%203%20Religion.pdf) Any Bro. who subscribes to these systems were ordered to resign or be subject to Masonic Trial, which would end with explusion from the order.
The Grand Master has the timerity to sign this decision, "Your Humble Servant."
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the whole Order resigned as a mark of respect for the priciples upon which the Order was formed.
Freedom to think for oneself, Brotherly Love, respect for others, etc.
(Just another one of my idle thoughts, but if I were an advertising man I could get excited about the positive opportunities that this action might afford Freemasonry all over the world.)
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting…trailing clouds of glory do we come from God, who is our home -Wordsworth
Post by stewart edwards on Dec 13, 2012 18:32:43 GMT 9.5
Given what I have heard through the grapevine about certain things in England (getting rid of certain types) this doesn't suprise me. And indeed if you have read the masons debating my own rejection on the internet you would have seen plenty of anti-gnostic views thrown about.
It is simply an aspect of two old energy streams. I had rather hoped that the UGLE and amity masonic world would choose a different path around now but it is its right to work on whatever path it so chooses.
Sad though, for I had hoped that it would choose reilluminate like a phoenix and not retreat into comfort zones. Still that is human nature.
Still the same energy flows can be seen in politics, in business and in ordinary folk. Sadly the masonic world is no different.
As LorrB said such decisions could end up being great enablers for the world. Life has a funny way of working like that sometimes.
Just wait until HRH The Duke of Kent recommends me as his replacement I will sort the buggers out.
Any thoughts on the supposed vibrational change later this month? I was reading just recently that it will be way we Earthlings think and act that gets the big shake up.
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting…trailing clouds of glory do we come from God, who is our home -Wordsworth
Any thoughts on the supposed vibrational change later this month? I was reading just recently that it will be way we Earthlings think and act that gets the big shake up.
In A Word - No.
I can only talk about myself, when since around the millenium I have been becoming more attuned to the energy of this planet and it has been my own self that has been getting shaken up. I will confess however that I have been looking forward to this month with some relief and excitement. For me the "switch" has been a great enabler and I dont expect that to change over the ocming week or so.
For others I dont know, for I can see the penetration of darkness in various parts of society coming hard and fast, almost as if it doesn't want to let go as society evolves.
Personally I think that the coming years will be quite turbulent for our world as society continues to naturally evolve (ie the average person on the claphum omnibus) while our darker aspect tries to cling on. It is one thing moving darkness forwards when profits can be made, but when things are tight, food and water are becoming scarce etc is quite another.
I do however think that we, as a people, have the potential to take relly great strides forwards, if we can finally come together, but it would be so easy for darkness to send everything crushing down around us.
Best illustrated this week with the EU getting the Nobel prize and the leaders publicly reminding themselves in a speech that while war is unlikley it is not imposible in Europe again. When times are tight the worst of humanity as well as the best of humanity can come out.
Personally I think that we need a new generation of evolved leaders (or better still get our current leaders to evolve a bit) to progress the human race, but darkness will not give up its grip easily.
I mean, look at the masonic world, still bickering like bairns in the playground/public scandals/etc, and quite frankly if the masonic world cant get along and is visibly retreating backwards in terms of tolerance, and inspiration then quite frankly what hope is there for the rest of us!!
Tis a pity.
Anyhow while it is all enabling me, I can only hope and assume that it is also enabling others, even if I mainly see fear, despondance, and comfort zoning.
;D Anyhow LorrB just wait until all these Masonic high hied yins realise that I am the custodian of masonry and not them, and that I am not happy ;D ;D
Further reactions from the BB can be found at the above site. This, in addition to the UGLE statement that Freemasonry cannot be associated with occultism and the like, will make for some animated discussions in the future.
The UGLE view is not unique. Here is the New South Wales GL in Australia:
"Regular Freemasonry does not permit within it any form of esotericism which encompasses or tends towards – occultism, sorcery, alchemy, astrology, profane mysticism, transcendentalism, supernaturalism, druidism, rosicrucianism, satanism or any concept or movement related to any of these. The presentation, endorsement and/or promotion of such subjects in any Lodge holding under the UGL of NSW and ACT whether the Lodge be open, adjourned, at refreshment or closed or at any connected or associated Lodge function should be deemed irregular and is strictly forbidden." freemasonsfordummies.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/edict-against-esotericism.html
I think the genuine secrets of a MM will be safe for a bit longer.
Harmony. In one of the heated discussions the WM interpolated: We shall first agree bb that we will disagree! in one accord did the BB the said in one accord agreed! so they further disagreed