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Post by paul on Jul 23, 2012 9:15:53 GMT 9.5
In the train this morning I noticed something had changed with the colours of the pavement in our local lodge. It is physically black and white, but the inner colours seem to have changed.
So here is an experiment:
- put your inner attention to the pavement of your lodge (or possibly any black and white square pavement) - visualise a sheet of paper with black and white squares like the pavement and bring the sheet next to your pavement. What happens? - change the white on your piece of visualised paper to various colours (pale blue, cream, gold, pink) and test again - having found the preferred pale colour, put that in your visualised sheet of paper and start changing the dark colour (oxford blue, deep red, deep green..)
So which pair of colours best matches your lodge pavement?
Try projecting back a month in time (e.g. last meeting) and repeating. Any difference?
Why is it so?
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Post by LorrB on Jul 24, 2012 12:51:44 GMT 9.5
Pale sunny green and deep rose.
Can't get past that. Though I do remember to pavement seeming to be deep purple/violet (?) and light rose once when I was absentmindedly looking at it.
Why is it so? Have no idea. Mind/eye thingy?
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Post by paul on Jul 24, 2012 13:14:36 GMT 9.5
Your combination has surprised me but I have some theories to test: - put your heart chakra next to a pale sunny green tile, then an annedotus, then an original Knight Templar - with the deep rose tiles, put the solar logos, then a deva of the Pacific (hodson image below), then the Pleiades.
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Post by LorrB on Jul 24, 2012 14:43:06 GMT 9.5
Will do. But will have to report later.
On the spot, I can say that I have seen a violet (?) shaft of light extending vertically from the ruby lamp on numerous occasions (the colour nearest the body of the Deva of the Pacific Ocean in the image above, which is why I was reminded of it.)
I have also been taken to what I thought was the inner part of a chakra which ws composed of deep rose beams of light flowing horizontally, mingled in with those beams were individualised beams of shining gold, also flowing horizontally (from my point of view). It was absolutely beautiful.
I love those images btw... they instantly soothed the 'soul and mind' and made me feel right at home. (I would be interested to hear if they produced an effect on other members, the colours might just be a female preference thing... ?)
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Post by paul on Jul 31, 2012 9:46:16 GMT 9.5
Any reports from experimentalists?
It does not need to be done with a Masonic pavement - a dark-light pavement in a shopping center can be equally effective.
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Post by LorrB on Jul 31, 2012 10:24:44 GMT 9.5
Green = heart chakra Deep Rose = heart chakra Pale blue tile = Pleiades which sank into the black tile of the imaginary mosaic pavement.
Could not raise a response for the other suggestions.
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Post by paul on Aug 1, 2012 10:37:23 GMT 9.5
>Pale blue tile = Pleiades which sank into the black tile of the imaginary mosaic pavement.
Am I correct in thinking that this image was pale blue tiles with black and the Pleiades connected into the black?
If so, to what are the pale blue tiles connected?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 1, 2012 13:51:21 GMT 9.5
No, I had the imaginary mosaic pavement on the imaginary floor and the 'constructed black and white patterned sheet of paper' above and to the right of it (north).
Thought process was ... pale blue, Pleiades (surprise), then the pale blue tile moved left and sank down into the black tile of the mosaice pavement. It make me think of the universe.
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Post by paul on Aug 1, 2012 14:03:53 GMT 9.5
So the implicit pavement was pale blue and white?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 2, 2012 10:04:31 GMT 9.5
pale blue and black.
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Post by paul on Aug 2, 2012 10:09:21 GMT 9.5
In my experience a pale blue and white pavement is connected to Sirius.
Sirius, along with our Sun, traditionally "rotates" around Alcyone in the Pleiades. So what are the symbolic colours for the mosaic pavement in that celestial lodge/mansion? Quite possibly they are pale blue and black.
But is it really black or rather midnight blue?
Try testing.
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Post by Henka on Aug 2, 2012 12:59:09 GMT 9.5
Do we actually orbit Alcyone every 26,000 years? Absolutely not.
First of all - we are NOT part of the Pleiades system.
1) This star forming region is 144,000 light years away from us and most of it is packed in a volume less than 20 light years wide. We are at least 7,000 times further away from Alcyone than any other star in that picture.
2) All the stars here are very young - possibly less than 100 million years old - whereas our Sun has been around for 4.5 BILLION years. So we're about 50 times older than Alcyone too - we're hardly from the same generation.
So our sun is really nothing to do with this group at all.
Secondly - The Pleiades has about 1000 members packed within a small space. I doubt very much that we would find nicely ordered orbits here. The stars in this group formed independently of one another, and whilst double and triple stars systems will be commonplace, the motions of these 1000 stars within the cluster are overwhelmingly likely to complex and highly chaotic, not neatly ordered.
Finally - we are much too far away from the Pleiades to be orbiting anything in that cluster as lightweight as a star. Alcyone is certainly a fairly heavyweight star (at about 6 to 10 solar masses) but even so, the gravitational pull of Alycone from 144,000 light years distant is unbelievably weak - nowhere near enough to hold our sun in a 26,000 year orbit.
In fact - we can calculate how long an orbit around Alcyone would take. All it takes is some high school physics...
An orbit basically happens when the apparent outward pull from centrifugal force is balanced by the inward pull of gravity.
Remembering that...
Centrifugal acceleration = w2 * mass * radius Gravitational acceleration = G * mass1 * mass2 / radius
And knowing the numbers below (which weren't hard to look up)...
G = 6.67 * 10-11 massalcyone = 1.59 * 1031 kg masssun = 1.99 * 1030 kg radiussuns_orbit = 4.16 * 1018 m
...we can plug the numbers into the two formulae, and solve for w (the angular velocity).
I make the answer:
Angular velocity w = 3.84 * 10-18 radians/sec
and therefore
Period of sun's orbit = (2 * pi) / w = 1.64 * 1018 seconds or 52 billion years!!
52 billion years is, of course, several times older than the age of the universe, and an unlikely period for an alleged orbit around a star which is only 100 million years old. It's also a lot different from 26,000 years, which just goes to show that the people who believe in such claims aren't very proficient in physics.
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Post by paul on Aug 2, 2012 13:24:52 GMT 9.5
Do we actually orbit Alcyone every 26,000 years? Absolutely not. First of all - we are NOT part of the Pleiades system. .... You will have noted my careful wording: Sirius, along with our Sun, traditionally "rotates" around Alcyone in the Pleiades. The term "traditionally" means by tradition. The use of quotation marks with "rotates" indicates that the term is used metaphorically. We could choose our preferred theoretical framework and test for consistency with existing beliefs. You seem to prefer a Newtonian gravitational theory. I choose another, of which the electrical universe theory is the first layer. www.amazon.com/Electric-Universe-Wallace-Thornhill-Talbott/dp/0977285138We could move on from that and consider whether the Gaia theory is applicable at the macro level. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesisIf so, the galaxy may be an organic entity (the body of God) with associated energy flows analogous to the traditional Chinese view of the human body. That would provide a non-gravitational meaning to "rotates". How would we test for the aliveness of the galaxy?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 2, 2012 14:11:39 GMT 9.5
... while it moves it lives? (or... we could pinch it and see if it says ouch)
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Post by paul on Aug 2, 2012 14:27:32 GMT 9.5
>we could pinch it and see if it says ouch
As both have probably occurred, how would we observe the results of the experiment?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 2, 2012 14:44:53 GMT 9.5
.. lol ... that'll teach me to be a smarty pants.
A. guess we wouldn't observe it as we would be part of it, but we might feel it.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 2, 2012 14:50:18 GMT 9.5
For those that might be interested in a possible connection of Sun-Sirius-Alcyone ... easier to understand if you visit the link below ... We choose the Sun as our reference point, and this is obviously highly inaccurate. Every 4 years a day has to be added to keep accurate time. But even Sirius was not accurate enough for the "Keeper's of Time", the Mayans. With their remarkably advanced astronomy they quickly detected the inaccuracies in using Sirius as a marker for the passage of time, and switched to an even more accurate cycle involving the Pleiades. There is however an even more stable reference point than the Pleiades and that is the Galactic center, which from the perspective of our galaxy is the ultimate center of rotation.
And indeed the Mayan's chose the Galactic Center as a reference point to mark the passage of time, which is evident as the Mayan Long Count ends with the galactic alignment of the Solar System on December 21st 2012. Therefore, the idea that the Earth orbits the Sun, or that the Sun orbits Sirius, or that Sirius orbits Alcyone and that Alcyone orbits the Galactic Nucleus, is not revolutionary -- it's just a rediscovery of lost knowledge . www.viewzone.com/sirius.html[/blockquote]
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Post by paul on Aug 2, 2012 14:59:51 GMT 9.5
.. lol ... that'll teach me to be a smarty pants. A story by George Oshawa taught me to take seriously even simple comments. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_OhsawaHe was teaching a group in France in the 1920s and asked the group how could you tell which of a pair of twins was more yin. No adult answered. A child however did answer: punch them both and the one that cries is more yin. Quite correct.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 3, 2012 11:04:04 GMT 9.5
One of my favourite (genuine) childrens questions/sugestions was....Why does God keep making people and then letting them die, why doesn't he just keep the ones he's got.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 28, 2012 9:01:27 GMT 9.5
Your combination has surprised me but I have some theories to test: - put your heart chakra next to a pale sunny green tile, then an annedotus, then an original Knight Templar - with the deep rose tiles, put the solar logos, then a deva of the Pacific (hodson image below), then the Pleiades. Found my answer! I recognized these colours instantly as I came across them accidentally. I am particularly fond of Kwan Yin and have a beautiful statuette of her at at home.
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