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Post by LorrB on Jun 7, 2011 14:59:39 GMT 9.5
Just found this.. quite by accident. I was checking out if iron might be a factor with the fog in the Bermuda Triangle. Seems that all of us are seeing what isn't there. Space Warp
The atom is often likened to a “mini solar system, most of it space.” It is always surprising to realize that this is true, that the structure of the atom is energy in a confined space between revolving charged particles. Since everything is made of atoms, everything in this Universe is mostly energy, not materially particulate. The electrons, protons and neutrons are only a small part of the atom. It is the space between them that is, ironically, the “substance.” Space in this case filled with electromagnetic energy.
Therefore all matter is not only mostly energy, but it is mostly space.
This is hardly philosophy disguised as science. This is simple fact.
In the above example of the red blood cell, we noted the number of each atoms. This translates to 102,408 charged particles making up the atoms of its structure. These same particles are what is in your computer key board, a wall, a car, rubber, anything. The red blood cell is different because of their arrangement. This creates the red blood cell. Remove the space from that red blood cell and no microscope will be able to detect those tiny particles.
It is the same for everything. Remove the space from it, and you have very little.
It is possible to estimate how many charged particles are in any given substance. Simply consider there are 30,000,000,000 red blood cells in the body. Mathematically, it is possible to determine how many electrons and protons and neutrons make up the blood. Add the volume of all tissues, of every atom from calcium to Iron, to whatever. It is beyond number probably. Take all the space out of the human body and all these charged particles would form a pile that is still so small it is invisible. www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Bermuda_Triangle_Space-Time_Warps.htm
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Post by tamrin on Jun 7, 2011 15:08:00 GMT 9.5
... but Fellowcraft are given the task of unravelling the secrets and mysteries of Nature and Science. "Study" is not the same as "unravelling," and is certainly not the same as "entangling." Sometimes study leads only to a greater appreciation of the depth of a mystery and often the wisest answer is, "I don't know."
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Post by tamrin on Jun 7, 2011 15:16:33 GMT 9.5
Take all the space out of the human body and all these charged particles would form a pile that is still so small it is invisible. What a load of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. It simply doesn't go far enough! Without space, those charged particles wouldn't even form a microscopic pile because they are simply vibrating expressions of energy. Physicists are well aware of this fact but, as they say, if you think you understand quantum mechanics, you're wrong.
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Post by tamrin on Jun 7, 2011 15:28:17 GMT 9.5
So much for imagination. Creation depends on imagination, it provides the Plan of the Work. Thomas Hardy was obviously not an architect.
We can see with the physical eyes, and what we are able to see depends on frequency.
We can see with the eyes of the mind, and likewise what we are able to see depends on frequency.
To deny what another sees might be demonstrating short sightedness?Do you suggest we simply accept every wild assertion and go with every passing thought? Mental illness is very common and to see what another cannot (but would be expected to) is most likely due a delusion. BTW, Thomas Hardy may not have been an architect but he was the son of a stonemason and he featured the operative Craft in his work.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 7, 2011 16:57:57 GMT 9.5
No. But many wild assertions in the past are now solid science.
Back to your old tricks again of intimating that anyone who does not see the world as you do are delusional or have a mental illness.
Tamrin, you are free to have your ideas of things, leave us to be free to believe what we want to also. We are free masons. Even God gives us free will - or so says the Volume of Sacred Law.
This forum is a happy place peopled by people who genuinely care for each other. None of us profess to have all the answers to Life, Death and the whole darned thing - and we often disagree on issues. But we do have fun trying to further our knowledge.
If we go up the wrong path, so be it, we turn around and come back again, share the story and have a good laugh about it.
You're welcome to laugh along with us.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 7, 2011 17:02:00 GMT 9.5
if you think you understand quantum mechanics, you're wrong. Never said I did. I just read about it. Osmosis.
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Post by tamrin on Jun 7, 2011 20:59:30 GMT 9.5
Back to your old tricks again of intimating that anyone who does not see the world as you do are delusional or have a mental illness. And you too are back to your old tricks of taking at face value reports which would ordinarily be taken as clear signs of psychosis. Most people, including myself, are not in perfect mental health, and hallucinations are common - I have experienced them when overly tired (stationary objects appearing to move). Fortunately, I have recognised them for what they are and have acted accordingly (got some rest) whereas Paul and yourself appear to seek them and latch onto and exaggerate them as evidence of having more abilities than your fellows.
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Post by mgc on Jun 7, 2011 21:14:11 GMT 9.5
surely electromagnetism is fun to play with, but if the observed effects r more than special effects, 1 wonders why no1 has been able to reproduce them in over 30 years..
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Post by stewartedwards on Jun 7, 2011 22:17:40 GMT 9.5
Most people, including myself, are not in perfect mental health, and hallucinations are common - I have experienced them when overly tired (stationary objects appearing to move). Fortunately, I have recognised them for what they are and have acted accordingly (got some rest) whereas Paul and yourself[LorrB] appear to seek them and latch onto and exaggerate them as evidence of having more abilities than your fellows. That is certainly one possibility Tamrin. Another is that possibly Paul and LorrB have been able to pierce through the veils in life to see its underlying hidden beauty. It may be that they are provoking thought to enable others a little behind them on their journey path get a bit of a leg up?
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Post by mgc on Jun 7, 2011 22:57:55 GMT 9.5
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Post by Henka on Jun 8, 2011 4:27:05 GMT 9.5
See, a rational explanation for levitation.
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Post by paul on Jun 8, 2011 7:59:36 GMT 9.5
I have only levitated once that I recall. While working on a roof I lifted about 18 inches straight up and came down very gently. It was a very peaceful experience but later I was pleased I had not moved a little sideways as there was a 30 foot drop with no guard rail.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 8, 2011 8:51:04 GMT 9.5
Great link mgc thank you! And quite a few things relate back to that chap's experience in the Bermuda Triangle. Every thing was just on a larger scale. Herebelow is an extract from you link (the simple version ) Why does the frog fly?
(this explanation is written in response to numerous inquiries from children who have not studied physics yet ... or even do not want to study it at all)
As you might well know, all matter in the universe consists of small particles called atoms and each atom contains electrons that circle around a nucleus. This is how the world is made.
If one places an atom(or a large piece of a matter containing billions and billions of atoms) in a magnetic field, electrons [/b][/i] doing their circles inside do not like this very much. They alter their motion in such a way as to oppose this external influence. Incidentally, this is the most general principle of Nature: whenever one tries to change something settled and quiet, the reaction is always negative (you can easily check out that this principle also applies to the interaction between you and your parents). So, according to this principle, the disturbed electrons create their own magnetic field and as a result the atoms behave as little magnetic needles pointing in the direction opposite to the applied field*. As you probably saw many times when playing with magnets, magnets push each other away if you try to bring together their like poles, for example, two north or two south poles. Similarly, the north pole of the external field will try to push away the “north poles” of magnetized atoms. Our magnet creates a very large magnetic field (about 100 to 1000 times larger than school or household magnets). In this field, all the atoms inside the frog act as very small magnets creating a field of about 2 Gauss (although very small, such a field can still be detected by a compass). One may say that the frog is now built up of these tiny magnets all of which are repelled by the large magnet. The force, which is directed upwards, appears to be strong enough to compensate the force of gravity (directed downwards) that also acts on every single atom of the frog. So, the frog’s atoms do not feel any force at all and the frog floats as if it were in a spacecraft. *) There are a few materials (such as iron) whose atoms are a bit crazy and love to be in a magnetic field. Their magnetic “needles” are oriented in the same direction. But those are exceptions from the general rule. This original work carried out by Nijmegen's researchers was first featured in Physics World, April 1997, p. 28. www.ru.nl/hfml/research/levitation/diamagnetic/#Whydoesthefrogfly[/blockquote] Maybe the high concentration of iron in the Bermuda Triangle is the answer to that whole puzzle. Such a simple explanation. Gosh, I would like to be there when the proverbial pig flies!
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Post by paul on Jun 8, 2011 8:55:42 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Jun 8, 2011 9:09:14 GMT 9.5
I have only levitated once that I recall. While working on a roof I lifted about 18 inches straight up and came down very gently. It was a very peaceful experience but later I was pleased I had not moved a little sideways as there was a 30 foot drop with no guard rail. I'm frightened of heights, that would scare the heck out of me. I am wondering whether an explanation for your experience might lie in the simple explanation above. My rational mind would lead me to ask if you were working on an iron roof and meditating at the same time You are in good company I have to say... St Joseph of Cupertino had real problems keeping his feet on the ground. The other monks used to hang on to his robes to keep him anchored, which indicates that there were many witnesses to this event over his life-time. These conditions would occur at any time or place, especially at Mass or during Divine Service. Frequently he would be raised from his feet and remain suspended in the air. Besides he would at times hear heavenly music. Since such occurrences in public caused much admiration and also disturbance in a community, Joseph for thirty-five years was not allowed to attend choir, go to the common refectory, walk in procession or say Mass in church, but was ordered to remain in his room, where a private chapel was prepared for him. Evil-minded and envious men even brought him before the Inquisition, and he was sent from one lonely house of the Capuchins or Franciscans to another, but Joseph retained his resigned and joyous spirit, submitting confidently to Divine Providence.
www.newadvent.org/cathen/08520b.htm
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Post by paul on Jun 8, 2011 9:10:53 GMT 9.5
I was in a work group on a large roof - not iron - using a hammer as I recall.
There was almost no wind and the gentlest of breezes arrived and lifted me vertically.
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Post by mgc on Jun 8, 2011 9:38:26 GMT 9.5
what things?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 8, 2011 10:18:49 GMT 9.5
... in bold above. Iron, magnetic field, altered motion, weightlessness, compasses going haywire, think of the plane and those in it as the frog in the experiment. Whatever happens to a frog can happen to anything larger if the givens in an experiment are altered to match the subject.
Think of the BTriangle as being the field for the perfect magnetic storm and the vehicles as the frogs.
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Post by mgc on Jun 8, 2011 10:31:35 GMT 9.5
u may want to reread the part about the ferrous metals and their response to the very specific field generated in the flying frog xperiment..
also, what i gather from the study is that the field has to be much stronger than anything found in nature (sofar)..
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Post by LorrB on Jun 8, 2011 10:53:33 GMT 9.5
Can you give me the short version. I do this forum in between lots of other tasks and can't search at length. I'm just interested in the iron bit... because that is one of the features of this specific area.
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