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Post by cwhite on Sept 7, 2011 7:24:22 GMT 9.5
This is what I found concerning The Pallidium Order, courtesy of "Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi"
Candidates are exposed to a five-step programme: (1) Adoption: This is where the Mason is brought into the “fellowship” of Lucifer. He is guided into swearing an oath and being yoked to the temple of Lucifer. Ultimately, he is led into making a pact with Lucifer. (2) Illumination: Through drugs and occult techniques of the seers, the so-called Third Eye is opened. This “eye,” or the Ajna chakra, is felt to be the point of contact between humans and Lucifer consciousness. It is supposedly located in the forehead, above and between the two visible eyes. To “open” the eye a little is to experience psychic powers. To open it completely is to have the mind flooded with “pure” Luciferic consciousness. This is why one of the Masonic symbols is the “all-seeing-eye.” It is a symbol of Illumination. (3) Conversation: This involves communicating with the “mighty dead.” Spiritualism plays a significant part in the Palladium. Mediumship is encouraged and “conversation” with the sages of history is vital. (4) Congress: The initiate is led into being literally “married” to these dead. Usually this is done by having a medium of the appropriate gender become possessed by the “dead spirit” (ie demon), and then a sacrilegious wedding ceremony is consummated. It is believed that the magical “virtue” of the spirit flows from the possessed medium into the initiate through the act of intimacy. (5) Union: At this point, the soul of the initiate is totally eclipsed by the evil spirit. This is known as “perfect possession” and takes years of inviting the demons to come and own the person.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 7, 2011 8:29:46 GMT 9.5
Sounds very dark to me.
Trouble is, I have heard Freemasonry described in similar terms and we all know that is rubbish. It makes one cautious about accepting anyone's description of another Order. It might be interesting to find out a bit about "Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi" - are they a well balanced group themselves?
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Post by cwhite on Sept 7, 2011 9:29:27 GMT 9.5
"Sounds very dark to me."
It matches the setting of the Denver International Airport....
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Post by cwhite on Sept 7, 2011 9:35:04 GMT 9.5
"are they a well balanced group themselves? "
I doubt it. They were founded in 36 AD, and extinguished in 800 AD due to the Catholic takeover. They only just reemerged in the 1970's. 800 AD to 1970 AD is QUITE a gap. Said to be the "keepers of the grail". Said to have been founded by Jesus himself.
I have a controversial theory of the Pallidium, which could earn me a bad reputation.....
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Post by cwhite on Sept 20, 2011 0:52:27 GMT 9.5
Came across a new anomaly on accident. I was going over some Sumerian tablets and seen a certain similarity with a D.I.A. mural. They say that this mural depiction is of a Mayan tablet. This is a Sumerian tablet. Thoughts anyone?
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 5:35:16 GMT 9.5
Zechariah Sitchin had a go at demonstrating that there was only one set of gods around the world by matching names with characters, relationships and events.
If this is correct then there should be a lot of similarities in depictions of the gods and their actions.
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Post by tamrin on Sept 20, 2011 5:44:36 GMT 9.5
**** ALERT!Zechariah Sitchin had a go at demonstrating that there was only one set of gods around the world by matching names with characters, relationships and events.
If this is correct then there should be a lot of similarities in depictions of the gods and their actions. SitchinIsWrong.comDr. Mike Heiser - Linked Above "For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill" - Richard Clopton - ( Excerpt)
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 7:57:29 GMT 9.5
Sitchin may well be wrong in his one-to-one matching of gods across the world and through the ages but I have not seen any demonstration of that.
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Post by LorrB on Sept 20, 2011 8:43:17 GMT 9.5
And here is what Dr Sasha Lessin, PhD, UCLA has to say... Science confirms facts the gods dictated, facts that only technologically-sophisticated space travelers who saw Earth from space could have known, facts and accurate explanatory models for physics, astronomy and biology better than science. Scientists now verify the Nibiran goldminers' genetic, metallurgical, geological, scientific, mathematic, astronomical accounts from long ago. All this gives credence to the Nibiran account of our origins.
www.enkispeaks.com/default.html
And look at this little treasure (I didn't know that..) Covertly, Enki fed Earthlings from his corn stores. He trained them in ocean fishing and gave them access--disobeying Enlil-- to the seas..
www.enkispeaks.com/articles/DelugeJuly08.htm
Reminds me of an ear of corn etc etc
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Post by LorrB on Sept 20, 2011 8:46:10 GMT 9.5
Thoughts anyone? Check out the wallpaper on the link above Synchronicity.
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 8:54:36 GMT 9.5
Reminds me of an ear of corn etc etc Depending on which god names you use, Enki (god of the underworld ocean) who is depicted next to a (falling) fountain of water, had as a spouse the goddess (sometimes Ceres) who introduced agriculture and of course the ear of corn, and whose daughter was trapped in the underworld by eating pomegranates. (for non-Masons a fall of water, an ear of corn and pomegranates, all appear in the ritual but with hardly any rationale)
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Post by Henka on Sept 20, 2011 12:36:39 GMT 9.5
Reminds me of an ear of corn etc etc Depending on which god names you use, Enki (god of the underworld ocean) who is depicted next to a (falling) fountain of water, had as a spouse the goddess (sometimes Ceres) who introduced agriculture and of course the ear of corn, and whose daughter was trapped in the underworld by eating pomegranates. Ninhursag is his wife, and they represent the scared marriage, hieros gamos. Ki/Ninhursag represents the Earth, and Enki represents the fertilizing property that brings life (Hence the significance of the carp skin mantle he is depicted with - which you keep implying makes him some sort of fish-alien). This is sacred symbolic representation of the fertilizing property of semen. The God and Goddess bring life. Ninhursag, as the Earth - the body of the Goddess - grows the life giving grain. The Pomegranate also represents life. Now, your implication in other threads that Enki/Hades, as God of the underworld, literally took Persephone to the "waters below" because he is a alien fish guy is errant nonsense, and seems to have the whiff of Sitchin about it. That is because we are expected to study and investigate the meanings of the symbols which with we are presented. As with the ancient mystery schools, the interpretation is individual.
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Post by Henka on Sept 20, 2011 12:45:24 GMT 9.5
Sitchin may well be wrong in his one-to-one matching of gods across the world and through the ages but I have not seen any demonstration of that. His entire premise is wrong. It is built upon the idea that the Sumerian/Akkadian/Babylonian mythological cycle is literal. He states so himself. I have many of his books, and they are so full of holes you can drive a tractor-trailer through them. It all speculation, building upon itself, based on misinterpretation of the original material - which he was not qualified - by any stretch of the imagination - to comment on as an "expert," so self described.
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 12:55:05 GMT 9.5
... Enki represents the fertilizing property that brings life (Hence the significance of the carp skin mantle he is depicted with - which you keep implying makes him some sort of fish-alien).... The widow Isis is also depicted with a fish-tail headdress and even with a fish on top of her head. The fish on the top of the head might well be a traditional sign of fertility - as a change from eggs and rabbits
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 12:57:29 GMT 9.5
Sitchin may well be wrong in his one-to-one matching of gods across the world and through the ages but I have not seen any demonstration of that. His entire premise is wrong. ..... Possibly so but he still does a rather good job of matching the gods of different peoples. He even includes timing - of disappearance from one hemisphere occurring at the same time as appearance in the other.
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Post by Henka on Sept 20, 2011 12:58:38 GMT 9.5
... Enki represents the fertilizing property that brings life (Hence the significance of the carp skin mantle he is depicted with - which you keep implying makes him some sort of fish-alien).... The widow Isis is also depicted with a fish-tail headdress and even with a fish on top of her head. The fish on the top of the head might well be a traditional sign of fertility - as a change from eggs and rabbits Different cultural motif. Sumer and Egypt depended on the abundance of rivers. Sumer was a plain and extensive marshlands, as was the Nile delta. Fish would be an important source of nutrition, available to all.
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 13:04:58 GMT 9.5
Here is more fish nutrition in the form of Vishnu
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Post by Henka on Sept 20, 2011 13:14:49 GMT 9.5
I'm not getting an image.
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Post by paul on Sept 20, 2011 13:47:55 GMT 9.5
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Post by Henka on Sept 21, 2011 1:19:59 GMT 9.5
Now it says "Page not Found"
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