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Post by LorrB on Jun 20, 2012 8:55:18 GMT 9.5
POWERFUL thread! For those who would be Masters.
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Post by choochoo808 on Jun 21, 2012 1:14:41 GMT 9.5
That's Fellow Craft-y, in a mirrored sort of way.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 9:36:01 GMT 9.5
That's Fellow Craft-y, in a mirrored sort of way. Clever fellow, did it make you think?
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Post by paul on Jun 21, 2012 9:46:33 GMT 9.5
If only it were that simple. It seems to me, however, that the human mind is commonly host to another entity that conceals itself and assures the human that the entity is the human. Castaneda discusses this: ""Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs; our ideas of good and evil; our social mores. The predators are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations, and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness,..... greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal." "But how can they do this, don Juan?" I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying. "Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?" "No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. "In order to keep us obedient, meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver- stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist; a horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. "They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, and filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. " educate-yourself.org/cn/howtovanquishfear23may07.shtml
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 9:47:18 GMT 9.5
Consider the words of the novelist Philip K. Dick: What a tragic world this is. Those down here are prisoners, and the ultimate tragedy is that they don’t know it, they think they are free because they never have been free, and do not understand what it means. This is a prison and few men have guessed. It is thus all Master Masons are raised from a figurative grave ... I find that Freemasonry explains the nature of the prison and the escape route. Anyone else like to comment on that?
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Post by paul on Jun 21, 2012 9:59:41 GMT 9.5
It is thus all Master Masons are raised from a figurative grave ... I find that Freemasonry explains the nature of the prison and the escape route. The raising and the escaping may not be the same. On the simplest level, raising is being taken out of the body to see the solar system (sun at its meridian) etc. While that experience proves life beyond death it does not establish control of mental structures. That is achieved by ascending that mysterious ladder that is veiled by Jacob's Ladder. If the brother ascends far enough s/he will be beyond the influence of entities within the mental structure. In time the brother will transmute the primary entity (dweller on the threshold) so that it become creative rather than defensive.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 10:06:00 GMT 9.5
[ "In order to keep us obedient, meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver- stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist; a horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. "They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, and filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. " educate-yourself.org/cn/howtovanquishfear23may07.shtmlCowans and Intruders! Don Juan explains that these aliens think of (and treat) humans as a food source and can overlay the human psyche in order to keep us dumbed down and unaware of their influence, however, it's possible, he says, to dislodge them through discipline. By allowing ourselves to be immersed in destructive emotions: fear, anxiety, anger, strife, jealousy, competitiveness, the dog-eat-dog mentality (just think of the daily fare on TV-Court TV, Survival shows, Reality shows, Apprentice shows, violent cartoons, Jerry Springer type shows, etc.) we hold at minimum our "shining coat of awareness", thus serving the alien agenda. We can rebuild our "shining coat" and no longer be under the influence of those dark forces by removing the "self" from our focus of existence. Lambskin apron a "shining coat of awareness"? M.. & V.. outside the door = self (small s) The necessity for Brn to remain harmonious! (else the cowans pass the Inner G)
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 10:10:57 GMT 9.5
The raising and the escaping may not be the same. Upon reflection you are probably right. I just remembered the latter part of the FPoF - protection still needed.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 12:23:36 GMT 9.5
"They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, and filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. " educate-yourself.org/cn/howtovanquishfear23may07.shtmlThis post reminds me of the common occurrence of some dying people becoming extremely viscious/aggressive verbally towards the end. People who have been gentle and kind all their lives can desplay this totally out of character behaviour. Ask any nurse. I have always thought or that as a form of possession. The dying have 'gone' before the body physically dies and 'others' use it while they may.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 21, 2012 12:24:45 GMT 9.5
Christianity - Jesus casts out demons from living folk ?
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Post by paul on Jun 21, 2012 12:30:18 GMT 9.5
This post reminds me of the common occurrence of some dying people becoming extremely viscious/aggressive verbally towards the end. ..... I have always thought or that as a form of possession. The dying have 'gone' before the body physically dies and 'others' use it while they may. In Brisbane we had a sweet old lady (a twin) who was with the lodge for many years. I am told that in the year before her death in an institution that she had reverted to her World War 2 behaviour - smoking and swearing - that she had given up when she returned to her parents strict religious home after the war. Without observing particular cases, my first hypothesis would be that the higher entities have withdrawn and lower entities have been left in charge. Options include the entity that operates the lower mind and the intelligence that operates the sacral chakra.
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Post by paul on Jun 21, 2012 12:34:20 GMT 9.5
Christianity - Jesus casts out demons from living folk ? It is certainly true that devout Christians using the name of Jesus may on occasion cast out lower entities. It may that the name Jesus is like a url - it accesses an energy by means of an address. What that energy is in particular cases might be the subject of metaphysical investigation. For example not all nominally Christian churches access the same energies.
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Post by stewartedwards on Jun 22, 2012 2:42:48 GMT 9.5
Even Jesus was tempted of what was classified as evil, Buddha also indicated similar experiences. So as long as we are physical combatants we are in the game to learn to stop. It would have been worse for them than for most people foxfires as the further you travel, the more darkness will try to divert you. In a way it is like how a good man could gain a position of power and be diverted by greed, blackmail, corruption, his ego and so on. But more than this, when you get to the stage when you have connected with the Divine and indeed are on a Divine mission darkness will naturally try to subvert you. Hence the act of balancing becomes much more difficult. Everyone has good and bad within them, (how many good people beat their wives, priests rape children, politicians telling bare faced lies, children stealing sweets and so on) and it is all about finding balance. It is simply part of the course.
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Post by stewartedwards on Jun 22, 2012 5:56:43 GMT 9.5
Stewart, I agree with you, and feel the souls who went down the path and decide to return, from there, will probably find the process difficult, as they have to learn the lesson of how they got there and the reason within them to change Well I can only speak for myself foxfires but when I was there and chose to return I knew exactly how I got there and the reasons within me to change which was all past tense by that stage having walked myself out of darkness. The only question I had just before that point was "had I done enough" and I received an affirmative answer. The question for me for the first couple of years was why be asked to come back when I had done enough. I now know this answer, but it baffled me for a good while. That all said this was during a fever spike, in hospital, when my body was closing down on me, and I was down the end of the old white tunnel, on a coctail of antibiotics. So as the reserch will tell you is merely brain chemicals going do-lally. You see Sally in the religious sense I have had the good fortune to have experienced a Divine connection (or a hospital drug and fever spike fulled hallucination) so I sort of have first hand experience of being asked to return, for believe me I was more than ready to cross over.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 23, 2012 13:20:44 GMT 9.5
Who or what is Sally?
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Post by stewartedwards on Jun 23, 2012 13:53:50 GMT 9.5
Very good question LorrB, I have no idea why I typed that, must be one of my dyslexia related type issues. Either that or I am psychc and foxfires is called Sally, which I doubt.
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Post by paul on Jun 23, 2012 15:58:13 GMT 9.5
Is Sally the one who offers salvation (forgiveness) to those facing death?
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Post by stewartedwards on Jun 23, 2012 18:49:51 GMT 9.5
FoxFires So you are Saying that I have dementia! ;D More seriously, I am on my third poof-read of one of my new books, where a character Sally is introduced. My guess would be that I had read her name just before I finished proofreading on the last work through, so she was in my mind when I posted and wrote it instead of foxfires. And there is me failing a basis esoteric lesson
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Post by paul on Aug 26, 2014 11:54:53 GMT 9.5
Castaneda discusses this: "In order to keep us obedient, meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver- stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist; a horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. "They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, and filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. " I was reminded of this quote today when a friend asked about a plant she saw in her dream. I had some sense of it so I asked her to look at it again and ask it if it is an Ally. She got a strong positive response and then it provided some visual imagery in response to some questions. She was quite pleased (got goosebumps) when what I saw it doing was the same as she saw. The active presence of Allies is critical for most humans in seeking to regain control of their thought processes. The friend in question is about to depart in a couple of days following her household contents on a truck to a small town 6 hours away with no house to go and both real estate agents awol, and with her Ally, she remains carefree and joyful. This is a major step up in her functioning.
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Post by paul on Jul 11, 2016 7:40:37 GMT 9.5
In my dreaming last night I was with some humanoids. At one stage I asked one how intelligent I was compared with him.
Without hesitation he said: 9%
This morning I remembered long ago when I was in a spiritual community and getting a bit of flak from the members about my thoughts, I was told in meditation: Any specialness that you might have, does not exist in the mind.
And looking back, I have noticed on a number of occasions, pondering on how to manage various physical world situations, and after hours or days discovering a simple and obvious arrangement, and being surprised that it took so long to uncover such an obvious path forward.
So, hopefully there is much beyond the mind.
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