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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2012 8:05:23 GMT 9.5
We have had a discussion on whether humans might be the most intelligent beings locally.
What if being intelligent were merely a stepping stone to real capabilities?
Can humans transcend intellectual functions?
What lies beyond?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 14, 2012 9:34:55 GMT 9.5
My most amazing experiences have occurred when the mind was inactive, and if the mind was active at the time, it went blank at the occurrance.
I agree with the Cayce source which states that Mind is the Builder, but I have come to the conclusion that we have more than one mind, and that it is the Heart (?) Mind which is the real builder. S... of F... (?)
It is only when we can control, contain, override (or Master) the lesser mind that our higher mind can take us where we want to go.
If we look at a JD as representing the little mind, we see that it is only empowered to carry communications between lesser parts of ourselves. Likewise if we look at the SD as representing that higher mind, we see that it is directed to convey commands from That which is Superior to our selves.
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Post by paul on Jun 14, 2012 14:56:08 GMT 9.5
I recall reading that the ancient Egyptians thought humans have two brains - one in the head and one in the heart. And now we know that the gut, the heart and the brain all run systems of neurons. The brain has the most, next the gut and the heart has the least. www.nariphaltan.org/gut.pdfIf quantity is the most important then so is the brain. Otherwise if "less is more" then the heart is most important. www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-second-brain
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Post by LorrB on Jun 14, 2012 16:26:19 GMT 9.5
... so if we don't get it right (with thoughts, words, deeds etc ) the systems might be compromised/penalised some way or t'other ?
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Post by LorrB on Jun 15, 2012 8:51:09 GMT 9.5
Lorr, There is no getting it right or wrong in this realm, as I see it, there are just some things that are not as productive. So if we choose not to work for a living, we will find ourselves lacking in some areas. We penalize ourselves because of our choices. I was 'whacked' (joyously) in the heart once - as I passed the SW cnr of the lodge. It came from behind. It makes me feel exhilarated every time I think of it. I have always sensed an invisible presence in the SW of our lodge, it make me wonder
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Post by LorrB on Jun 15, 2012 8:59:31 GMT 9.5
Talking about Light hearts...
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Post by paul on Jun 15, 2012 9:21:43 GMT 9.5
I was 'whacked' (joyously) in the heart once - as I passed the SW cnr of the lodge. It came from behind. It makes me feel exhilarated every time I think of it. I have always sensed an invisible presence in the SW of our lodge, it make me wonder ... You seem to have detected the "tassel" in that corner of the temple. You are the first to report it that I have seen. That tassel is a manifestation of Divine Intent. How many sponsors from on high do you have?
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Post by paul on Jun 15, 2012 9:32:06 GMT 9.5
As for light hearts - it seems to me that the spiritual heart (chakra + flame) can for purposes of lightness be divided into 7 notes (subplanes of subtle substance). The lower 4 are the personal heart and the higher 3 the transpersonal heart.
As the junior initiate progresses in the purification of the heart the lower notes die down (dense substance is lost) and the heart sound is in the higher 3. Eventually only the highest note (subplane) remains.
As the dense substance is lost the pain of the past is lost also and the initiate retains the wisdom but not the pain by which it was gained. Hope for us all!
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Post by LorrB on Jun 15, 2012 9:53:46 GMT 9.5
How many sponsors from on high do you have? I have no idea... 4 ? All different (but could be the same?) We all have sponsors though, don't we? That is what the deacons are trying to tell us. Or that is how I read it.
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Post by LorrB on Jun 15, 2012 10:12:59 GMT 9.5
As for light hearts - it seems to me that the spiritual heart (chakra + flame) can for purposes of lightness be divided into 7 notes (subplanes of subtle substance). The lower 4 are the personal heart and the higher 3 the transpersonal heart. The EA Apron. FC Apron The higher 3 rules the lower 4 MM Apron Beautified
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Post by paul on Jun 16, 2012 7:53:21 GMT 9.5
.... I had my heart held in traction by two forces in a room as I engaged with powers and principalities on high,.... as I had to ptellut those emotions into arrest, and stand them down as winds of knowledge blew through my being.... That sort of intervention is unusual particularly as it combines heart and emotional learning simultaneously. Most Western humans learn control of emotions through repeated and gradually evolving situational experiences - progressively establishing the ability to stand in a mental space in preference to a purely emotional space. I have not observed non-Europeans sufficiently closely to detect how often their path is emotions to heart as compared to the European tendency to emotions then mental then heart. Nice typo!
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2012 7:12:26 GMT 9.5
>some of the negative energy jump to another person at the time of death if they see a lust for power
Quite so. And that relates I think to the matter of murder and child abuse running in families.
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2012 7:14:37 GMT 9.5
>I had to ptellut those emotions into arrest, and stand them down
I suggest that: ptellut is a combination of put and tell.
Thus the emotions were both told and put into arrest - a combination of command and control.
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Post by paul on Jun 17, 2012 12:45:26 GMT 9.5
But this energy can be put into full arrest and this person can butch up and stand down the energy and then own it.... Are there preconditions to this? For example: - are other species involved in these multi-generational family traits? - is there karma involving other beings that needs to be resolved? - are there other time-line aspects that are inter-related?
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Post by paul on Jun 18, 2012 8:58:02 GMT 9.5
I have met people who have been spiritually and humanly oppressed in a series of incarnations. In each life their physical and psychological energies are being continuously drained by the same dark entities and their human accomplices.
After a series of such lives these targeted people instinctively know that death is not a release and may suffer very deep depression and lack the psychological energy to "butch up".
My suspicion is that those humans generally need a rescuing entity to bring them up to the point where they retain enough energy to confront the oppressing entities.
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Post by paul on Jun 18, 2012 10:20:32 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Jun 19, 2012 8:59:09 GMT 9.5
So there are people who do the stuff and those who describer the stuff being from two separate worlds Reminds me of that powerful movie "The Cider House Rules".
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Post by LorrB on Jun 19, 2012 9:08:46 GMT 9.5
This image really caught my eye when I accessed your link. www.amazon.com/Healing-Lost-Souls-Releasing-Unwanted/dp/1571743669/ref=pd_sim_b_1This sort of image appears to my inner vision sometimes before sleep or during meditation, the two differences being the eyes are usually open and the images are sepia coloured. The faces can be young, old, chinese, indian, male, female. They sort of fade in and out and sometimes merge. What is that?
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Post by paul on Jun 19, 2012 9:36:49 GMT 9.5
>people were trying to project negative energy on others, and the criteria for a deity per the buildings construct and charter was a force greater than self,
In my experience, people holding large amounts of negative energy are nearly always dominated by a dark entity - and that entity in its turn by an even larger entity. (I would advise forum readers against the pursuit of such second-level entities as they may operate at higher frequencies than the human soul and thereby may be capable of overwhelming the pursuer.)
>A full reception of the inbound energy can not hurt you if there is zero personal gain from my personal interests.
In subplane terms: the incoming frequency needs suitable substance to resonate with in the light body (aura). The initiate progressively eliminates all of the denser emotional substance and then all of the dense mental substance and thereby is master in the three worlds - physical, emotional and mental - as they exist within in the light body, and thereby stands outside the emotional and mental dramas of human life.
>I would jump in and plead with the power that be, that if they did not provide some form of hope for this person and splash light in on them that I would deal with them later
I know a woman who said that when she disapproved of "the guys upstairs" she would threaten to put in a bad report on them. She said they would then 'run around like chickens with their head cut off".
>just apologized for how I appeared to be, and this often sent the energy levels off the bell curve
This is a great technique - respond to aggression with sweetness and love.
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Post by paul on Jun 19, 2012 12:49:59 GMT 9.5
... This sort of image appears to my inner vision sometimes before sleep or during meditation, the two differences being the eyes are usually open and the images are sepia coloured. The faces can be young, old, chinese, indian, male, female. They sort of fade in and out and sometimes merge. What is that? I tend to think that when entering or exiting sleep we can experience awareness of where we are on several time lines. The other day while waking I was in a discussion with some people and was using technical terms that I understood in the scene but not in the physical awareness of this existence. It was interesting to watch my discourse while not understanding it.
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