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Post by cwhite on Apr 2, 2012 3:21:52 GMT 9.5
In the Quran (chapter 18, verses 65–82), it is said that Moses (Mussa) met a man of wisdom, superior to his. He was known as Al Khidir or the Green One. They met "where the seas meet". It is said that Abraham revered Melchizadek for his wisdom, giving him 10% of all he had. They met in the Valley of Shaveh (shaveh meaning the plain; that makes equality). In the movie Star Wars there is a green man named Yoda who trains men in the way of "the force", turning men into Jedi-knights. They met in the Dagobah system and the Sluis sector (THANKS GOOGLE!). The Devil card from my favorite Tarot is green. So, who is the green man?
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Post by paul on Apr 2, 2012 7:53:53 GMT 9.5
There are two types of green man in my experience:
- one coloured green representing the energy of the balanced heart chakra - thus Al Khidr - the other is an etheric entity that can be found in many woodlands - hence shown as floriat.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 2, 2012 10:13:47 GMT 9.5
Jesus was referred to as a 'green man' also. Hildegard von Bingen was a person of remarkable breadth and talent. She is remembered in history as a Christian mystic who, as a nun during the twelfth century, was able to become an renown herbalist, painter, composer, abbess of her order and confidant to the Pope. She also produced a great deal of written material and accomplished it all through a combination of her innate, visionary gifts and the fire of her spirit. It is in her writings that she offered us a word; viriditas which literally translates to ‘greenness.’
This word was her effort to name the moment whereby the eternal, quantum world of Spirit becomes the visible, tangible world of space-time. This is the word made flesh - the enlivening of the physical reality.
spiritpassages.com/pdfs/SacredHoopWild&Green.pdf
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Post by LorrB on Apr 2, 2012 10:29:43 GMT 9.5
Notice how the central figure is taking nothing with one hand and pointing out the bread with the other. Creating something from nothing?
The Green Man is looking at the 'empty platter' whilst blessing that which was produced.
Judas on the other hand (dressed in a combination of colours of producer and blesser) is grasping metals and bread.
It would be interesting to know what significance Leonardo placed on the colour green.
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Post by cwhite on Apr 5, 2012 0:15:17 GMT 9.5
It looks as though the man in green is protecting Christ, who seems oblivious to all that is going on around him. Focused on only the work.
The man in green is Apostle Thomas or Doubting Thomas or Didymus Judas Thomas. Didymus meaning "twin". James the Greater seems to be pointing at the ceiling, trying to remind him of the 6x6.
It could be interpreted that Thomas was trying to keep James from reminding him of whats on the ceiling.
In the depiction above, there are only nine corridors. In da Vinci's rendition, there is ten. The one that is missing would be at the feet of Christ. The same place Routi the double-lion would be found on the Tabula Smaragdina.
Rev 1:15 And his feet were like unto fine brass, as if they burn in the furnace; and voice as the sound of many waters.
Also missing from the above rendition is the half-circle above the corridor behind Christ.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 5, 2012 8:56:44 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Apr 5, 2012 9:20:21 GMT 9.5
When we are looking at Leonardo's work we have to keep in mind what his beliefs were. Mine are outrageous.... Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the central figure was not John the Baptist and the figure to his right was Mary Magdalene (aka The Beloved Disciple). Freemasonry's Two St Johns? Most biblical scholars today assert that the Fourth Gospel was authored by an anonymous follower of Jesus referred to within the Gospel text as the Beloved Disciple. It is posited here that, in an earlier tradition of the Fourth Gospel's community, the now "anonymous" Beloved Disciple was known to be Mary Magdalene. It is further posited that Mary Magdalene is the true founder and hero of what has come to be known as the Johannine Community (i.e., Mary Magdalene was one of the original apostolic founders and leaders of the early Christian church).
I realize that this hypothesis may seem very radical and perhaps unorthodox to you. However, I believe that it is well-founded and I respectfully offer the following in support of it. The evidence supporting this thesis includes some of the Gnostic Christian writings of the Nag Hammadi Library, and internal evidence from the text of the Fourth Gospel itself. This study also relies heavily on the Johannine Community research done by Raymond E. Brown (America's foremost Catholic biblical scholar).
members.tripod.com/~Ramon_K_Jusino/magdalene.html
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Post by LorrB on Apr 5, 2012 9:21:45 GMT 9.5
The very first Festive Board?
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Post by paul on Apr 5, 2012 9:21:49 GMT 9.5
The term "green man" seems to date from 1939 "Lady Raglan coined the term "Green Man" in her 1939 article "The Green Man in Church Architecture" in The Folklore Journal" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ManPersonally I use the term "the green man" to refer to the entity that operates the heart chakra in humans. That entity, when healthy is commonly seen as light leaf green in colour. The floriat etheric humanoids may be seen around the world in treed environments and hence should be referenced in most native cultures.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 5, 2012 9:38:53 GMT 9.5
Al Khidir?
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Post by paul on Apr 5, 2012 9:48:56 GMT 9.5
"Khidr literally means 'The Green One', representing freshness of spirit and eternal liveliness, green symbolizing the freshness of knowledge “drawn out of the living sources of life.”" khidr.org/In the above quote "freshness" "green" and "living sources of life" can be seen as quite consistent with my proposition that the green man of the heart, when healthy, may be seen as a light leaf green colour. I deduce therefore that Al Khidr represents the fullness of heart qualities that may be expressed through a human.
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Post by LorrB on Apr 5, 2012 10:59:20 GMT 9.5
... that would fit Jesus
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Post by cwhite on Apr 6, 2012 4:35:36 GMT 9.5
"Khidr literally means 'The Green One', representing freshness of spirit and eternal liveliness, green symbolizing the freshness of knowledge “drawn out of the living sources of life.”" khidr.org/In the above quote "freshness" "green" and "living sources of life" can be seen as quite consistent with my proposition that the green man of the heart, when healthy, may be seen as a light leaf green colour. I deduce therefore that Al Khidr represents the fullness of heart qualities that may be expressed through a human. I agree. Very thorough link too!
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Post by cwhite on Apr 7, 2012 10:17:24 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Apr 7, 2012 10:53:58 GMT 9.5
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Post by cwhite on May 18, 2012 3:03:26 GMT 9.5
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Post by cwhite on May 18, 2012 5:40:09 GMT 9.5
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