Questioning the Contact

[paul]

Long ago I was in a community and was called to do electrical maintenance at the house of a little old lady who was complaining that her nylon nightie kept creeping up.

She was into the "space brothers" and had a nice closeup photo on her wall of a ufo. I later recognised it as a Haunebu 3 - a bit ironic.

Anyway I discovered that her (portable) house was not earthed (hence the creeping nightie) and that the live and neutral were reversed. She had only simple appliances that ran quite happily on reversed poles.

I understood such electrical derangements to be symbolic and in this case it seemed to indicate that the lady was quite disconnected from the community.

So I asked "the guys upstairs" (spiritual beings) and they said that she operated on a quite different energy stream from those in the community.

"Interesting, prove it" I said.

And they said that her house did not have any gardens against its wall. This was quite surprising as the community was extremely committed to gardening work with nature spirits.

So I had a look and her house did not have a single garden and seemed to be unique in that respect out of perhaps 100 buildings.


I found in other situations also, that questioning the contact (in a friendly way) often results in quite surprising additional data.


I wonder if anyone else has tried that.

[LorrB]

(What is a Haunebu 3 and where do they come from?)

I asked a contact once if I would ever see a fairy (deva)... the answer was yes and then I was told I would see one when I least expected it. ??

About a week later I was looking at a particularly beautiful miniature pink rose, I looked at the label to check its name, which was... The Fairy. I laughed out loud. Its still makes me laugh when I think of it.

[paul]

discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/HAUNEBU.htm

There are photos from the mid 1940s onwards of Haunebu derived craft.

They do not seem to be inhabited by the space brothers that the lady sought.

[paul]

So have we any experience of questioning the contact?

[LorrB]

... you have just reminded me that I must 'pull up my socks' ... ran out of gas and in a desert right now and all I can see is the occasional cactus plant with some in flower

[paul]

Jan 11, 2012 9:39:59 GMT 9.5 paul said:

Long ago I was in a community and was called to do electrical maintenance at the house of a little old lady who was complaining that her nylon nightie kept creeping up.

She was into the "space brothers" and had a nice closeup photo on her wall of a ufo. I later recognised it as a Haunebu 3 - a bit ironic.

Anyway I discovered that her (portable) house was not earthed (hence the creeping nightie) and that the live and neutral were reversed. She had only simple appliances that ran quite happily on reversed poles.

I understood such electrical derangements to be symbolic and in this case it seemed to indicate that the lady was quite disconnected from the community.

So I asked "the guys upstairs" (spiritual beings) and they said that she operated on a quite different energy stream from those in the community.

"Interesting, prove it" I said.

And they said that her house did not have any gardens against its wall. This was quite surprising as the community was extremely committed to gardening work with nature spirits.

So I had a look and her house did not have a single garden and seemed to be unique in that respect out of perhaps 100 buildings.


I found in other situations also, that questioning the contact (in a friendly way) often results in quite surprising additional data.


I wonder if anyone else has tried that.

This challenge was ignored when I posted it. Perhaps current forumites will be more active

[elijah]

Apr 30, 2023 19:23:45 GMT 9.5 paul said:

Jan 11, 2012 9:39:59 GMT 9.5 paul said:

Long ago I was in a community and was called to do electrical maintenance at the house of a little old lady who was complaining that her nylon nightie kept creeping up.

She was into the "space brothers" and had a nice closeup photo on her wall of a ufo. I later recognised it as a Haunebu 3 - a bit ironic.

Anyway I discovered that her (portable) house was not earthed (hence the creeping nightie) and that the live and neutral were reversed. She had only simple appliances that ran quite happily on reversed poles.

I understood such electrical derangements to be symbolic and in this case it seemed to indicate that the lady was quite disconnected from the community.

So I asked "the guys upstairs" (spiritual beings) and they said that she operated on a quite different energy stream from those in the community.

"Interesting, prove it" I said.

And they said that her house did not have any gardens against its wall. This was quite surprising as the community was extremely committed to gardening work with nature spirits.

So I had a look and her house did not have a single garden and seemed to be unique in that respect out of perhaps 100 buildings.


I found in other situations also, that questioning the contact (in a friendly way) often results in quite surprising additional data.


I wonder if anyone else has tried that.

This challenge was ignored when I posted it. Perhaps current forumites will be more active

paul i visual myself walking into her garden less home  the coloring of orange and black sky i spoke to her she is not from a certain race of humanoids who use brick and stone to feed off the electric current i see no nature spirits at all its mostly fire spirit seems as if the old lady is of a near extinct tribe  ii don't sense malevolence

[stewartedwards]

Apr 30, 2023 19:23:45 GMT 9.5 paul said:

I found in other situations also, that questioning the contact (in a friendly way) often results in quite surprising additional data.

This challenge was ignored when I posted it. Perhaps current forumites will be more active

Paul, when I had my NDE in hospital (or hallucinating in a fever spike), and passed the weighing of the heart ceremony, I was told by the Gods that I had passed and to go through the door of light. I stopped and asked them if they were sure, as I could not see how I could pass. They laughed at me, before sending me around a second time in a more traditional Christian event.

Then, I passed again, and as I was about to take that final step (that I was so desperate to take), I was asked to put my faith in God and consider returning. I did. I woke fresh as a daisy. Though it took me years to regain my energy levels.

So yes, I have questioned at a very high level.

There are other examples, including in the remote viewing world. I will admit that I have had some fun playing around with this. Sometimes it can be quite humbling. Other times a bit frightening. It has been especially useful in my museum work. Though obviously I see it as energies not entities.

[paul]

Apr 30, 2023 23:12:17 GMT 9.5 elijah said:

paul i visual myself walking into her garden less home  the coloring of orange and black sky i spoke to her she is not from a certain race of humanoids who use brick and stone to feed off the electric current i see no nature spirits at all its mostly fire spirit seems as if the old lady is of a near extinct tribe  ii don't sense malevolence

When I look at her now she was/is from outside this solar system - hence her commitment to the "space brothers" unlike most of the community.

I see there was an energy line into her from near the center of this galaxy.


I always felt that blue was the wrong colour for the sky and met a Brazilian in the community who like me, thought that yellow was the proper colour

[paul]

Was meditating tonight and out in the solar system and looked for a usual contact.

There he was and directed my attention to 3 entities, while putting a hat on my head. The hat was a bit odd but I looked at the entities and they approached.

I was a bit wary about them and tested them for scent and intent. They all failed both tests so I sent them away.

Then I wondered about my regular contact as that seemed strange behaviour. So I took off the hat and focused.

I realized that I had been lazy making the contact as I was operating a couple of planes below that of the contact. It seems that a dodgy type had taken advantage of my sloppy connecting.

So I sharpened up and made the right connection.

I had the advantage of being able to control my level of consciousness so that when properly directed, it was unlikely to make an adverse connection.

Those that cannot control their consciousness have real trouble testing where they are.

An obvious example is the traditional Kabbalistic Tree of Life where the sephira accessed is identified by comparing one's own meditation imagery with the cultural images recorded by previous generations. How reliable is that?

[sammy]

I think I process differently than most.. probably not a good method for novices.

I leave all pathways as an option. Nefarious or negative pathways set off red flags pinging the problem to be dealt with. Even if someone set out with nefarious intent, to progress would require positive growth in action. Counter producing their initial intent and what will keep them out if abused.

I am not sure I can say I fully trust anyone.. lessons learned..

[stewartedwards]

It look me a very long time, read decades, from first reading about different “levels’ physical, emotional, mental, to being able to feel them, both in beautiful isolation and in poetic harmony (or not!).

Take your time Sammy, it’s worth the wait.

Paul is eons ahead of us.

[paul]

>different “levels’ physical, emotional, mental, to being able to feel them

The controlled access technique is slightly concealed in the 21 Steps thread. Concealment is to avoid karmic responsibility

[tundrawolf]

May 20, 2013 7:55:35 GMT 9.5 paul said:

So have we any experience of questioning the contact?

Yesterday, I was listening to a podcast, about plant based medicine, and ritual ceremony, and it was discussed, that a rattlesnake was sent to this ceremony, as an aid for the speaker, to be a spiritual liaison.

He, tried sending the snake away, but the snake rattled and hissed and protested.

He, the host of the show, then proceeded to question the snake, if it perhaps wasn't just "coincidence" it was there, and the snake replied:

"I have been sent here to assist you in this unfoldment, why are you sending away the very thing you asked to be present here, now??"

So, recalling one of my Beloved Dogs, died 2.5 years ago, by a snake bite, and it was heart-wrenching for me, and partially my fault, (losing a Beloved is difficult, and his passing, not an easy one.) however I had an idea:

I connected with the rattlesnake that bit my dog, and it apologized, but the apology was insincere (The snake's heart was ho-hum about it.)

So, i went deeper, and I knew better, than to seek revenge against the snake, however, the option then occurred: to use the snake, to give him tasks so that he may purge himself of his karma, in my service.

(Perhaps just ask him, to keep watch over the forest creatures I am bonding to, to keep them safe, and to admonish other snakes to leave them alone? Just to keep watch, and keep others I am concerned with, safe?)

I did not ask anything of the snake, but it was interesting, how the dynamic had deeper meaning, but I had to ask and go deeper to find it.

[paul]

There seems always to be a deeper level.