Who is Alien?

[LorrB]

The need for clothing... I reckon that might be the best clue yet that we are not naturals.

Can't help think about being kicked out of Eden (E.din) and then feeling the need to wear clothes.

Shame, we are taught, was the motive - maybe not?!

[brandt]

More likely, in our environment of evolutionary adaptedness we did not need clothing. Like when I visit certain islands that have a climate that suits my delicate skin. No shame in my game. When we moved to colder environments we figured out clothes. We don't see tropical animals in Canada because, no clothes for them.

[paul]

Dec 14, 2011 8:37:23 GMT 9.5 brandt said:

..other than our technology which came from observation and reason.

That is a popular and very modern belief.

[paul]

"Dr. von Braun would have tears in his eyes every time – and he repeated this continuously to me when he talked about us in the galaxy – he would say ’with a hundred billion stars in our galaxy alone. What would make us think that we are the only life form?’...

He would say, ’Let’s start here where you are.’ There are continuous wars and enemies identified in order to perpetuate these wars, always with the ultimate goal of seizing the high ground of outer space to dominate and control the minds of people on Earth so they would not be given the truth, truthful information about who we really are in the universes. "
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZCb.htm

Note the implication that humans have a significance in several universes.

[brandt]

It is noted in that website.

Though my stance is modern it clearly isn't popular. Many people don't want to be educated. It puts their beliefs in danger.

[paul]

Dec 14, 2011 10:54:27 GMT 9.5 brandt said:

.. Many people don't want to be educated. It puts their beliefs in danger.

Too true.

Still if we could use the working tools in moral sense we could distinguish the true from the untrue and be less dependent upon being educated by an accredited authority.

[brandt]

Being educated at all would be a good start. That would require a suspension of disbelief and the ablity to require evidence and a critical examination thereof.

[paul]

I seem to remember a Lovecraft story in which the humans turn out to be the aliens and the original intelligent inhabitants of Earth were gelatinous blob beings.

[paul]

""The Paracas skulls, however, are different. The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening.....


It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens , Neanderthals and Denisovans."

www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/initial-dna-analysis-paracas-elongated-skull-released-incredible

[fjrogers]

There were people with elongated skulls in the South American civilizations. The Paracas skills certainly are a different case and may have belonged to people of high intelligence.

[paul]

My suspicion is that extraterrestrial groups founded colonies of which many failed

[fjrogers]

Yes, I'd say you could well be right. Such colonies may have had difficulty reproducing themselves, or run into various genetic problems.

[paul]

I have been reading about Rh negative blood. While it is in small proportions in most populations, excluding Basques and Celts, about half of those reporting "alien" abduction are Rh negative.

And we know that many abductees report reproductive encounters of various sorts.

So are Rh negative humans genetically closer to some alien groups?

[fjrogers]

> So are Rh negative humans genetically closer to some alien groups?

That may be possible. One never knows how genes may have been altered or tampered with in the past by beings we know little about.

[paul]

>Like the mermaid

I was walking on the beach with a friend talking about amphibians such as mermaids.

The friend knows that swimming in fresh water it is permitted to kick the legs separately but that in the sea both legs must be moved together as in the butterfly kick.

I have spoken to other women that know the same rule.

And as we were walking on the beach she reported that as we spoke she could feel her tail squishing and dragging on the sand.

Does she actually have 2 body patterns, only one of which is manifesting at present?

[fjrogers]

> And as we were walking on the beach she reported that as we spoke she could feel her tail squishing and dragging on the sand.

She could have had connections with amphibian beings in the distant past.

[paul]

"In addition, Earth is a small planet of a “rim star” of a galaxy. This makes Earth very isolated geographically from the more concentrated planetary civilizations which exist toward the center of the galaxy. These obvious facts have made Earth suitable for use only as a zoological or botanical garden, or for it’s current use as a prison – but not much else.

Before 30,000 BCE — Earth started being used a dumping ground and prison for IS-BEs who were judged “untouchable”, meaning criminal or non-conformists. IS-BEs were captured, encapsulated in electronic traps and transported to Earth from various parts of the “Old Empire”. Underground “amnesia stations” were set up on Mars and on Earth in the Rwenzori Mountains 134 (Footnote) in Africa, in the Pyrenees Mountains 135 (Footnote) of Portugal, and in steppes of Mongolia. 136 (Footnote)"

beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2017/02/alien-interview-by-the-roswell-nurse-on-duty-2521970.html?currentSplittedPage=3


To put the 30,000 BCE in perspective, the Sumerian King List may date back some 400,000 years.

[paul]

I rather think that Adam and Eve had to see the existence of clothing in order to be ashamed of being naked. The only other characters listed are God and the Serpent, so one of those was clothed.

Did Adam and Eve become ashamed because they realized that only slaves did not wear clothes?

[paul]

Here is a photo of Ceres. Note the ruined building at about 7 o'clock.

Also there are plenty of straight lines with hexagonal angles








Here are the bright spots on Ceres. There may be a quarry wall just to the right.

[paul]

>Metal lab and splatter

There is quite a lot of speculation about electrical discharges (natural and artificial) and beam weapons.

Beam weapons: this side of the Moon is flat maria ("seas") and the other side mountainous with high crater walls.

For some reason these photos are in low intensity color. Normally we only have black and white photos of the Moon. Why? From Earth the Moon is a light yellow color.











Electrical discharges: the rift on Mars