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Post by tundrawolf on Jul 15, 2024 12:33:46 GMT 9.5
With all the bullshit going on, why can't we have full disclosure already?
The timing would be perfect, humans are already holding their collective breath
Trump apparently got shot at
Russia is doing war
The global housing dynamic is near collapse
The economy is failing globally (Planned? Seems so?)
We are making progress in space exploration
Why wouldn't this be the perfect timing for,
"Aliens are real and there are sexy cat people in Antarctica"
Do we have to wait for the Artemis accords?
Can we just, "Get it over with" already?
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Post by stewartedwards on Jul 15, 2024 17:25:23 GMT 9.5
With all the bullshit going on, why can't we have full disclosure already? Can we just, "Get it over with" already?
Let’s take Aliens as an example, and I am all for disclosure… Those who know have the following considerations/responsibilities that act against disclosure (probably amongst others)… 1. Plenty of very credible people have already disclosed, yet it hasn’t taken hold. 2. Some of those people have been vilified, and may seek compensation. 3. How do you tell your people that the government can do nothing if you are abducted? How would a frightened population react politically? 4. If you did shoot down, torture, experiment on, murder, visiting aliens (perhaps understandably in the context of the time, poking around the worlds only nuke base)(but could also apply to other nations), you might be on a galactic arrest list. You disclose, diplomacy happens, your countries leaders are arrested and have to stand trial in a galactic court. 5. Maybe there are some dangerous species that military experience tells you that it is just best to leave alone, and not have gun toting folk hunting them. Etc Maybe it’s not so simple just to disclose. Especially if the US turns out to be ‘the bad guy’, from the perspective of aliens. |
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Post by paul on Jul 15, 2024 18:11:04 GMT 9.5
Full disclosure would include millions of humans abducted and sold as slaves to aliens. Not everyone would be pleased to know what happened to their relative that disappeared
It seems that Earth humans are particularly good with their hands and therefore used in factories to generate products that are valued in intergalactic trade
> if the US turns out to be ‘the bad guy’,
It may be that the US Navy is trusted by benevolent aliens - hence the AUKUS submarine cover story
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Post by stewartedwards on Jul 15, 2024 18:21:53 GMT 9.5
It may be that the US Navy is trusted by benevolent aliens - hence the AUKUS submarine cover story You have mentioned this before Paul. Do you know why (1) the U.S. Navy would be so trusted, and (2) why specifically the Navy as opposed say to the Airforce? As I understand (the cover story you would say): 1. Australia produced a new generation of subs that turned out to be unexpectedly noisy. 2. The U.K. needs to renew its submarine fleet. 3. The U.S. needs good capabilities in Australias neck of the woods to stay ahead of China. Hence it seems a win for all. But what do you think that this is covering? (Apart from France being pigged off at Australia for cancelling its submarine order with them). |
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Post by stewartedwards on Jul 15, 2024 18:32:08 GMT 9.5
Full disclosure would include millions of humans abducted and sold as slaves to aliens. Not everyone would be pleased to know what happened to their relative that disappeared It seems that Earth humans are particularly good with their hands and therefore used in factories to generate products that are valued in intergalactic trade Ok a difficult and potentially sensitive topic. I have an internet acquaintance who believes he has been sent to war in this type of scenario. I also know that it is a not that an uncommon belief. If true, my sympathies obviously are with them. But it is a hard one to swallow. So Paul…. (1) Why not use machines? Aliens are presumably more advanced than us. We use machines. Why don’t they? (Especially for producing goods for trade…what sort of goods requires human hands over automation?) (2) Do you have good evidence that this is happening? |
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Post by paul on Jul 15, 2024 18:51:38 GMT 9.5
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Post by stewartedwards on Jul 15, 2024 19:38:11 GMT 9.5
>what sort of goods requires human hands over automation? It may be that automation requires standardized inputs. What then for an input that varies in every sample? 1. That is what computer programming is for. 2. A lot of slave accounts and reporting there on originate from Goode. Not saying he is wrong, but a lot of reporting has been based on his report. It’s not as if that many people are reporting this, though it might look that way. 3. Presumably you can access the Council (or whatever you want to call it) better that I can. Are you aware of any authorisation for this? If unauthorised then given the reports and books, presumably it has come to the Councils attention? Given your thoughts on the Artemis Accords et all, how does this tie in with the bigger picture? |
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Post by paul on Jul 15, 2024 20:14:37 GMT 9.5
>That is what computer programming is for.
Generally a human has to comprehend the spectrum of situations before programming the computer.
What should be done when the spectrum is still being explored
> lot of slave accounts and reporting there on originate from Goode.
And much earlier with the reptilian cooperation with WW2 Nazis
>how does this tie in with the bigger picture?
It seems that various human groups have given permission for abduction of humans e.g. MJ12
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Post by tundrawolf on Jul 15, 2024 20:28:26 GMT 9.5
I think I am approaching this from an outside in perspective.
If humans discover some were abducted, does that change that fact?
Humans are already hunting cryptids and slaughtering them, in the name of the government, wholesale slaughter of them, I want them to be held accountable
None of this changes what is.
Take Eden, for example, it's not like it suddenly will exist- it has existed for a long time. The technology that will benefit humanity will far outweigh whatever uncomfortable feelings we have
The sentiment about gun owners is very real and I am concerned for it myself. Perhaps there will be need for a, "Fish and game" but for cryptids, with harsh penalties and punishment for anyone who violates the law(s). (And I mean harsh.)
Lots of disclosure- however no tangible proof. An exposure of a single picture from Eden would be all the proof most humans would need for it to, "Take hold"
It is similar to, adverse conditions in human societies- it's not that nobody "Cares", it's that nobody feels they can do anything about it. Such as, there are credible footage of UFOs from the military, and an admission from the USA government about it- but it is just quietly accepted. "What can we do about it?"
Soft disclosure has been ongoing, and massive.
Full disclosure still means those who are accountable will still be accountable. The adverse people, may wish to go off-world to avoid whatever sort of justice. Not disclosing it only hurts the human race in my opinion.
I could be wrong, and I do not want to risk it necessarily. I approach this, from having seen a cryptid(s), sharing a heart with one, and knowing she exists with more surety than I can say I have ever known a human to exist. (Aside from my best friend to a degree)
Humans are potentially very intelligent machines, I can see how slaves would be helpful. Also, there are more human slaves held by other humans (Islamic countries, etc) today than ever before in recorded history. Why wouldn't some aliens utilize this? The only way to protect humanity would be to disclose it.
I admit a part of me wants to disclose about Eden so I can roll around in the hay with a cryptid. (Date them, essentially.) I am new here, so when I saw a wolf girl, I fell head over heels in love with her. And other species? Holy shit, yes please. However that can be an all new issue, as humans seem to have a love/fear relationship with the genetic hybrids, their either want to fuck them or kill them, and I have seen how the animal folk can inspire both extremes. So, maybe it is good to keep it secret. It would be bad if we disclosed them only to have humanity end up trying to murder them. My heart is for the Edenites, not against them. Hearing about humans harming cryptids makes me livid. There is a reason I manifested my body between the soldiers and the group of animal people.
I guess all we can do is wait and see what tomorrow brings.
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Post by tundrawolf on Jul 16, 2024 1:42:22 GMT 9.5
Also, there was a recent ruling in the supreme court I believe, that essentially gives USA presidents blanket immunity (essentially I did not look into it, but the a few groups have been upset about it)- this could be one of the prerequisites to, dealing with the, "USA is the bad guy" thing with full disclosure.
It could be more soft releasing and preparing humans to understand and accept what has been going on. Perhaps there will not be "full" disclosure as in, every little detail.
I wonder this, though, how much longer can humans really hide what's going on, given the internet? Isn't it inevitable, that it will all come out?
"Two things cannot be hidden for long, the sun, and the truth"- Buddha
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Post by tundrawolf on Jul 17, 2024 4:19:23 GMT 9.5
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Post by tundrawolf on Jul 17, 2024 9:26:10 GMT 9.5
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