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Post by paul on Apr 26, 2021 12:27:02 GMT 9.5
LSD in the 1960s produced a wave of people having intense and often life-changing experiences as they saw through the veil. These days there are many hallucinogens available, including of course various mushrooms and other plants.
The main method of spiritual growth still is to refine the physical, emotional and mental bodies by a moral life and livelihood, serving others and learning to control thoughts and emotions. This takes Earth humans many lifetimes to get to the first stage of enlightenment, rising above elemental urges, refining relationships and learning to resonate to and transmit higher energies.
With the refining of the physical, emotional and mental bodies, various protective blockages are dissolved and the higher energies can flow easily into the now prepared bodies.
The hallucinogenic experience however tends to rip holes in the protective barriers and the human sees (as best it can) more profound levels of reality. It seems that the state of consciousness when starting the trip (e.g. depressed or happy) determines the nature of the experience.
The hole, having been ripped, usually does not self-repair and the human often then lives between two worlds in an uncontrolled way. This is easily classified as a mental illness.
Still there are a few humans that are properly prepared for ripping of veils and their lives are quite changed and for the better, e.g. recovering from PTSD.
There is currently a move to medicalize the administration of some hallucinogens. Obviously selection of a competent practitioner is crucial.
There are also various group/tourist trips to traditional cultures for such experiences. "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?”
Nevertheless ripping of the veils is becoming more common for those that are worthy, or where the inner sponsor is desperate to get the human into their committed task.
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Post by paul on Apr 26, 2021 12:43:19 GMT 9.5
Long ago, after the marital separation, my sons came to stay. The elder son was very rationalistic. So for some reason I looked at the veil between the dense and etheric physical in his body and decided to remove it that night.
In the morning he said that he could not sleep all night and had decided to become a Golden Dawn magician.
What had happened was the veil preventing his dense physical from feeling energies had been dissolved and he was then feeling the flow of energies and determined to learn how to manage them.
As it happened he went on to make his living from writing software for cryptocurrencies. Close enough!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 17:06:05 GMT 9.5
I believe that all chemical compounds can also be administered non-physically, or near analogues at least.
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Post by paul on Apr 26, 2021 17:32:23 GMT 9.5
Certainly homeopathic remedies do not contain molecules but seem to retain the energy of the original substance.
Still, I recall from Castaneda that Don Juan was quite specific about needing right relationship with the entity behind the plant.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 17:41:42 GMT 9.5
> needing right relationship with the entity behind the plant
In my case, I had right relationship with a non-physical pharmacist
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 2:59:29 GMT 9.5
> can also be administered non-physically
For me, a hard level-up needed some educational intervention, just to let know what's possible.
Coarse aspects in self meant a torn veil, I have never tried psychedelics, personally found reality too scary to be revealed quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 7:27:12 GMT 9.5
So... This is why I stuck around. I tripped on acid like maybe 4 or 5 times. Twice paper, then like 4 times liquid lsd on sugar cubes. The very last time I fell asleep and I saw an explosion of beautiful colors and stuff. And now your telling me that being a secret wood dwelling dope head was the solution to my problems the entire time?!? Hahahahaha
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Post by paul on Apr 27, 2021 7:39:12 GMT 9.5
> being a secret wood dwelling dope head was the solution to my problems the entire time?!
The problem with hallucinogens is that often there is no line of retreat. A bad trip can cause damage that lasts for several incarnations.
Hallucinogen use needs very skilled supervision.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 20:52:54 GMT 9.5
Who placed these veils of blindness upon humanity?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 3:55:16 GMT 9.5
I think that one reason is, when you know something about anything, it can be a barrier to looking at it with fresh eyes. So, in part, we play a game, to rediscover something, from a new point of view, and eventually integrate it with the old knowing. We make ourselves as we go. In refin[d]ing and building, there's not much point just being handed a finished mansion and all of the keys. Who wants to live in a house that someone else designed, when you have the wherewithall to make it just how you want.
It's co-learning, and classmates also seem to get some input on opened doors and ceilings, when hypocrisy or foul play, for example, are recorded and not overcome.
As for teachers, saints, sponsors, gods and God, their reasons might be as mysterious as creation itself, and become clearer as we make the grades.
Just one soul's take on a weird and wonderful journey
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Post by paul on Apr 28, 2021 6:28:08 GMT 9.5
There are at least 2 veils present in most humans:
- on 7.4 reducing the sensitivity of the dense physical to etheric energies - on 5.4 reducing the sensitivity of the lower mind to higher mental impulses including from the soul
It is said that the Lodge on Sirius is responsible for human education in this solar system and it rather looks as if our Sirian brethren have put those veils in place.
Educare: Latin, to lead out.
The veil on 5.4 is most useful as it gives time for an intelligence on that level to drive the personality to get its act together so that it is capable of acting coherently when it is exposed to soul impulses. This takes an indefinite number of incarnations.
I might argue that, as the very young child engages more with the physical world and loses sight of the higher energies, the veil on 7.4 forces the new human to learn to manage the physical world. That takes quite a while. Even in their 20s, humans are still crashing vehicles and wanting to fight
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 21:08:26 GMT 9.5
Fox, a lot of recommendations. I would much rather do the "sit and bring light in for 20-30 minutes" as recommended. I would love to give up the Marijuana...yet it seems as if it is the only thing that will allow me to cheerfully interact in public with other individuals. When I'm not high, I do not give a shit as to how others feel and could give two sh*ts about my human because it's always the same old crap! Eat sleep repeat. But when I'm high on weed I can actually go out and not be scared to be around other beings. It brings back the way I used to be when I was a very young man. Why would I give that up? But I truly believe that the shrooms and riding dragon trips(or what ever) are not for me. That's when they throw you in a rubber room for real never to see your family ever again. That would be counterproductive in the life that I think I want.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 22:49:20 GMT 9.5
I do not desire to mess up anymore incarnations....I just don't 7nderstanf what the hell I am here 8n the first place.
Bill(my human) how long have "I" the controlling "solar logos" being had control of him? How long have "I" been here? Or was I here the early stages then put to sleep for the last 13 years?
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Post by paul on Apr 29, 2021 6:31:08 GMT 9.5
>Bill(my human) how long have "I" the controlling "solar logos" being had control of him?
Control is not the right term. The solar logos provides the life force and the intent to experience matter and separation and you and a myriad other intelligences gradually coalesce and align to provide that experience.
>How long have "I" been here?
That rather depends upon what "I" means. For example the soul that looks to manage your human-ness looks like it was formed earlier in this second manifested solar system, but the soul might not have taken an interest in having a human existence until recently.
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Post by paul on Apr 29, 2021 9:08:44 GMT 9.5
>I just don't 7nderstanf what the hell I am here 8n the first place.
Understand: (see) what stands under
Perhaps seeing is better than thinking.
After you next do the Flame, gently put your visual awareness above your head. You may be able to see/feel a subtle object of golden light with flat geometric surfaces.
In the center of the structure is a "seed". It contains patterns for your planetary work.
Is the seed willing to make contact with you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 0:54:44 GMT 9.5
> u just got enlisted as an reaper and when people abuse u angels fix ur problems type deal
Matthew 13:39 And the enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the close of the age, and the reapers are angels.
// Do you see the reaper as something other? Any thoughts to add on why reapers get enlisted? There being a need for them, clearly, but what qualifies them?
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Post by paul on Apr 30, 2021 9:01:46 GMT 9.5
After you next do the Flame, gently put your visual awareness above your head. You may be able to see/feel a subtle object of golden light with flat geometric surfaces. In the center of the structure is a "seed". It contains patterns for your planetary work. Is the seed willing to make contact with you? This is a generic situation. Standard humans have the structure further above the head, but it is there on all the locals I have checked. The structure wanders off when dementia sets in. Try a well-known politician. JFK was very impressive on this test.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:21:20 GMT 9.5
My "i" definition.
It is as if "I" am back.
"I" remember being "bill" in his youth. "The walk" walk my most memorable of times and the outcomes afterwards. "I" was at times..."unstoppable"( no details necessary) but then one day I came here to the mountains, in the "wilderness" and shut down for 12 years. It seems as if I did what "bill" my human wanted to do instead of what I wanted to do, which was have wife and kids and settle......shit didn't pan out too well. Negativity smacked the shit out of him and everything perfect went to hell. About 5 years ago...."thungs" started happening to "bill". Fear or something of evil attacked. Panic, anxieties....hell for the last 4 years before I met you guys I though he was dying, at minimum about 3 times a day. "I' do not feel as if "I" am bills spirit, , but one that ran him in his youth and am now in control. I am starting to love him and I understand that I would not be able to enjoy anything of this reality if not for him but....."we" are not f*cking alone either! Other "me's" maybe if that makes sense. But "i" have the all power to send them other bastarfs to the back of the line, so to speak. 😆 I will not let any at all, be it man, spirit or otherwise hurt or harm him in any way. I am almost comfortable in this setting. Mission or no....bill has suffered and I would have nothing else cause him danger or harm.
I try to take your advice ad we got that fat bastard down from 485 lbs to 256 lbs. He's still alive and I walk him as often as possible. Recently I've decided that the Marijuana was a technique that I've used and will for a bit longer to "spark that fire" under his fat ass! When high the experience of being around other people let's me heal him and bring him back into society. Otherwise it hiding in the bedroom and blowing back up yo fat-man again. There have been times that "bill" had left entirely full grocery carts because there were too many people around him( too close). People too close in front or following too close was always an issue. He would wait for hours for the gas station to clear out before he went in to pay for the damn gas Not! Not when there is a little weed in his system. Hahaha. Now, we walk, we talk, and tiger there we try to understand what if any advice we should take from this entire situation before we wind up getting him into anything. I am starting to love him...rather its noticeable or not. It's the rest of the human race that I am trying to love now, it is in fact "bill" that has been seemingly hurt or harmed by them and harbors the hate from the pain....not "me". How to heal him from that shit? Dunno. Your flame thing....maybe.
Now here is the big one.
I do this shit for him, " bring in the flame".....what happened to "me"? Will be need me any longer or will I dissipate, fade or erase from bill leaving him healed? Or will "i" still be here?
Will "i" fade or will I grudge and not let him heal out of fear of loosing him again to something bad? Why would I even take that chance? Do not get me wrong. Without your confidence(advice) I probably (not at this time anyway) wouldn't have attempt to heal bill. So I take that at face value and realize that "i" do trust you. Bill....is a little more difficult to convince due to the fact that his "visualization" skills are not as toned as he would desire them to be and he can only imagine minor to none when it comes to seeing anything but darkness when he closes his eyes. I mean at times "i" think I see it and can control it for him....but what! Something does not want this shit to happen and fights me at times. Is it real? Am "i" real? Is "Bill" real? Does it or anything else even matter? I mean...if "God", the solar logos or who ever sent whoever here....truly....what does it matter.
You're human, your not human, you're real, you're not real.....
I am
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Post by paul on May 1, 2021 6:45:08 GMT 9.5
>How to heal him from that shit? It looks like there are some hooks in place. Often hooks, when removed, are replaced, so it is a daily routine of checking for a while. a406.proboards.com/thread/1653/hooks>Will be need me any longer or will I dissipate, fade or erase from bill leaving him healed? The denser vehicles become transparent to Light and Intent, so that your higher intelligence can operate directly in the lower worlds.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 6:50:28 GMT 9.5
Yeah? Still don't get it. But if I was trying to grasp what you are saying....
Freemasons....mushroom eating guys that are "angels"(?) protecting me from demons or bad guys(?) So in the interim, these good men are allowing me to come into their homes and wallow in their feces for for couple bucks to feed my children.
Yeah?...read my mind fox.
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