New Earth...will I still have to be raised?

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     So, still working on that heart flame thinh....coming along and wondering what should be made public or what not. So... if this is the new earth, and the solar logos( the christ light?(Jesus's gift to the Christianthat believed maybe?) OK, so I'm digging on this but there is a lot of "other worldly" sh*t jumpin off in and out of my mind( and I'm cool with that) seeing "things" other beings figuratively speaking. And what's up with these things I'm hearing about creating or ....seems as if it is "will your own world" kind of crazy shit and people just know that I've flipped my freaking lid and lost my mind. But there are some that are all positive and almost understanding. This "create your own world" thing is just almost to beleive or take in. I need to talk to someone that can fully understand me and that I can fully understand or am I to read that full book that you recommended me (that X-files book)hahaha.  Will that help me understand you a little bit more or am I way past the point of explanation(a modern day idiot). For real, before this sh*t gets me thinking that I'm a God beam (I'm probably one of God's nut hairs) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and I can dance naked in the streets throwing grapes at police officers because "they can't touch me....I'm AGOD!" Hahahahaha. Yup. Think I've finally flipped that lid.  Hey ....Paul, I want so bad to wake the hell up, just don't think this Human is gonna allow it. Oh hey back to my initial post.


Sorry I ramble.  It's a new earth now right, clones are gone(well most it would seem) . The darkness if the earth would have me believe that covid has taken so many from this earth, the bible would have me believe that Christ( or this solar logos) has returned and the rapture may have taken place and this is the new kingdom of heaven. Yet doesn't the Bible say that in the new Heaven, there would be no more pain and suffering.....something ain't right bout that now cause a guy still feels like shit all too often and the pain.....shiiiiiiiit. 


     There there is still, my number one point. At this point in time("new earth")am I to "cleanse myself" and "meet God on the last" ...ya know....run out in the woods and cry, then......_^-__-^^-______________ n wait to see if I was good enough in his eyes to be ^? 


I do not want to say that I am as lost as I was when I met ya but....just as confused 😕 🤣

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To know where you are, to know what you are, God lays it all out, to know what time it is. How much do we cancel along the way, sacrifice the lamb to shortcuts might give some pain relief, but miss the sights, ugly perhaps, but on reflection, behold a mirrored obelisk, shards of heaven, how many loops you wanna loop. Frequencies as seen, by some, up? eyes to see, providence, composition. 

[sammy]

Mar 23, 2021 5:07:14 GMT 9.5 @fibonaccimatrix said:

To know where you are, to know what you are, God lays it all out, to know what time it is. How much do we cancel along the way, sacrifice the lamb to shortcuts might give some pain relief, but miss the sights, ugly perhaps, but on reflection, behold a mirrored obelisk, how many loops you wanna loop. Frequencies as seen, by some, eyes to see, providence, composition. 

Wise words. Agreed. Im not sure though how well it can make sense unless it has been lived..

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> Wise words. Agreed. Im not sure though how well it can make sense unless it has been lived..

To read a book or to have written it, but what else can we do except know that we are in the place we should be, now

[sammy]

Mar 23, 2021 5:12:46 GMT 9.5 @fibonaccimatrix said:

> Wise words. Agreed. Im not sure though how well it can make sense unless it has been lived..

To read a book or to have written it

Precisely.

[sammy]

Aloneinthedark one of the biggest things that held me back (and others), is what we expect out of our growth. Expectations set desired pathways you may or may not be treading. It is through inner guidance and reflection (trial and error) we discover its way forward. Answers involving relative foundations are never going to be a real answer, unless its the answer you built yourself from yours.

[sammy]

Mar 23, 2021 5:23:25 GMT 9.5 sammy said:

Aloneinthedark one of the biggest things that held me back (and others), is what we expect out of our growth. Expectations set desired pathways you may or may not be treading. It is through inner guidance and reflection (trial and error) we discover its way forward. Answers involving relative foundations are never going to be a real answer, unless its the answer you built yourself from yours.

Or as fibonacci put it.. time to "write the book" instead of read.

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I wonder, are there any seekers, for whom mystery does not affirm life?

[paul]

The Spirit that flows into the human is the Source of Life. Religious people think in terms of God, but that is a human concept, and often used to control the believers.

Rather than looking for an outside force or act of God to save/ascend the human, it is much more effective for the human to raise him/herself by increasing the flow of Spirit within.

The alternative is to wait for the rising tide of Spirit, that over the millennia gradually lifts all beings including humans.

Generally it is better not to speak of these matters to humans that want God to save them. They are threatened by the possibility that they may be wrong. Threatened humans are often agressive and dangerous.

Of course it could be that the spiritual and material difficulties encountered by Earth humans, exist to encourage those humans to find the inner strength to surmount those difficulties - rather like end of year exams. Waiting for someone to give us the answers may not result in a passing grade.

There is a part of each human (the personal will) that wishes to maintain control over the human. Until late in the spiritual process, the personal will dominates the human thought processes and constantly looks for means for distracting/discouraging the human from manifesting Spirit.

Humans take as many lives as they wish in learning to manifest Spirit.

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One lens of a thought-form is the emotives weaved within

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God means different things to different people, there are more or less generally accepted concepts of God. People often discuss the same thing but with different vocabularies, and sometimes meet at a place where the two vocabularies describe the same thing.

For sure there are as many ways to be as there are beings, with many, many overlaps.

It takes a certain sort of bravery to lay out your experiences and doubts, more so the further from 'normal' they go. It also takes a fearless sort of beingness to be with what is, to not ask it to step aside, and to not obscure it with ideas of what should be.

From where I sit, aloneinthedark has an admirable sort of fearless honesty, and we share as best we can.

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"Write the book"....that's some of that next level stuff that I've been feelin. Trying to figure any of this out is just....wow. things have been happening....things that I feel I am pulling towards me. But I fear failure and that I am not truly able to do what I think I am doing and that I am f*cking insane. Hell, that is what everyone else is thinking so...

[paul]

Some people find it useful to keep a diary while they are going through rapid inner change. Usually memory is recovered and reinterpreted based on current emotional and mental content. A diary however carries a contemporaneous record - generally regarded as more reliable than later recollection.

A diary may record particular thoughts/impressions that may be validated or invalidated at a later time.

>Trying to figure any of this out

Is your mind the arbiter of whether a spiritual process is proper? Certainly it would claim that but spiritual process extends both above and beyond mind. The other day I commented to a woman working strongly on becoming free of her past that "your mind is flapping in the breeze". This was to indicate that the mind was reacting rather than responding to her experiences.

>I fear failure

This is a standard mental interference with humans moving on to the spiritual path. There are many other mental tricks/traps. Put your attention into the Flame. There is no fear in the flow of Spirit.

We are spirits having a human experience. The Spirit is never contaminated by the foolishness of the human personality.

There is no guilt, only experience being accrued by the indwelling Spirit.

>insane. Hell, that is what everyone else is thinking so...

In the human race some move a little faster than others. The slow movers are threatened by the possibility that they are missing out. They respond by declaring that the fast movers are psychologically dysfunctional. Truth is established by majority vote.

>will I still have to be raised?

Freemasonry remembers/imitates the third degree of ancient Egypt where the candidate was taken out of the body into the solar system and introduced to great beings. On return the newly raised brother had no fear of death and was committed to inner work.

Here is that event from the Isaic mysteries (of the widow Isis)

"Understand that I approached the bounds of death, I trod the threshold of Proserpine, and after that I was ravished through all the elements, I returned to my proper place; about midnight I saw the sun brightly shine; I saw likewise the gods celestial and the gods infernal, before whom I presented myself and worshiped them."

earth-history.com/Europe/Pagan/will-07.htm

I visited an Egyptian exhibition where there was the remains of a Masonic apron. When I looked at it, I saw an Egyptian third degree, and the account quoted above is accurate. Masons will recognize that "the sun is always at its meridian with respect to Freemasonry". There is a silly account given the ritual, but the real event is as quoted above.

Here can be seen the remains of the apron. The linen part is gone. The apron covers/insulates the genitals so that the brethren appear/function as innocent in the ritual.

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I think I am starting to pick up what you guys are laying down. Sorta like a "want it wish it", make it happen kind of thing? Man I will be a writing fool! Starting with translation issues! Hahahaha

[paul]

>"want it wish it"

Sort of. It is not what your body/emotions/mind want but rather what they need in order to be transparent to Spirit.

Equally, wishing is lower level. It is much more powerful to rest one's inner intent upon the required outcome.

Intent rests upon achieving the required result. There is no preference for the path/mechanism for achieving that result. At this stage there is not the understanding of systems and processes required to choose a particular process.

So you may consider quietly resting your intent upon your personality becoming transparent to the flow of Spirit that anchors in your heart.

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I'm trying to kick this over-thinker out of my head....soon I hope. I thanknyou guys yet again for saying(in your own way) "Hey, don't be stupid!" Haha back to the basics. Please do have a beautiful day.

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A thought comes to mind. Did my earthly father have a flame? Is it possible for me to even find that out? Or was he a "clone" or someone that was put 8n place to get me to this point. And was it I that made these things happen before my life even began. As if I planned this stuff from another time?

[sammy]

Mar 23, 2021 20:28:31 GMT 9.5 @aloneinthedark said:

I'm trying to kick this over-thinker out of my head....soon I hope. I thanknyou guys yet again for saying(in your own way) "Hey, don't be stupid!" Haha back to the basics. Please do have a beautiful day.

No problems brother. Always glad to help.

Safe journeys!

[paul]

>Did my earthly father have a flame?

Yes but rather small. I have never seen a human without a flame - but I have not been systematically observing.

>was it I that made these things happen before my life even began. As if I planned this stuff from another time?

There are forces that oppose Earth humans becoming aware of their true nature, and therefore able to access their true powers. (The powers are indicated by the Tree of Life fitting on the human system)

The opposing forces particularly target spiritual beings that have been posted to the planet to assist Earth humanity. The opposition has standard techniques to oppress such beings over many lives.

Female incarnations are particularly susceptible. The women are constantly targeted by unsuitable males and associated unsuitable in-laws, and are saddled with difficult children. Typically it takes the female about 40 years to escape so that most of that incarnation is wasted.

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I now find that I have started writing one of those books. I started when I thought I was having some sort of nervous breakdown. But in this book I was sent from where Jesus came from.....ummm so....so I guess I some how manifest this book into my life and into my mind and I wind up an old man silver hair sitting on my porch for the rest of my life playing with my imaginary friends.....or do I manifest myself as the God Aquarius and give these beings what they want and deserve? 🤣