Esoteric Healing Methods

[LorrB]

I know we have a few Healers amongs our ranks. Would any of you like to share your experiences with us.

Can anyone become a healer, do you think?

Please share you Hands On, Reiki, Therapeutic Touch, etc stories with us.

Do you believe that Freemasonry might enhance your healing power?

[LorrB]

Three little stories standout for me in this area.

One was when I went to a Reiki course, at one particular part where the teacher had hands on my head a picture of an American Indian standing on a hill appeared in my minds eye. Bit startling. It turned out that the Reiki teacher had a sponsor in this area who was an Indian.

I usually use Therapeutic Touch if I attempt to heal someone myself. The hands do not touch the body by hover over it - and you can feel disturbances in the etheric (?) field which surrounds the body.

When my daughter became very ill with glandular fever in Yr 12 and was told it would take 4-6 week to recover I decided to give everything a try. Went to the Homeopathic clinic and bought medicine # ?? (they go in numbers), went to the chemist and bought some AstreForte and then did the best Th.Tch session ever. I sweat and it wore me out. She returned to school the next week. (Trouble is I can't be sure which cure was the effective one).

On another occasion I did Th.Tch on a dying friend as I put my hands over her and closed my eyes a tiny picture of a perfect red rose appeared in the Third Eye area... not a minds eye it was a 'real' red rose. Only time it ever happened quite like that. When I joined the Rose Croix I had cause to remember this occasion. There is an interesting post script to that. My friend did die and about 18 months later appeared to me in a dream, really happy, she walked up to my eyes (as if they were a camera) and waved happy at them. I know she is ok.

[paul]

More and more I find that esoteric healing techniques simplify to the skillful application of love - qualified by energy octave, intent, location, timing and cooperation.

As a simple analogy, the Hieronymus machines operated just as well if only the wiring diagram was used. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_machine

[LorrB]

I printed off the diagram - what do I do next?

(Just read the thought for the day - If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space .. this will inspire me to try a little experiment you might devise using the device.)

[paul]

Here is a link to some manuals www.wdjensen123.com/hieronymus/Plans.htm

There are 2 obvious options:

- drawing the wiring diagram and connecting it to physical dials by wires linked to diagram lines
- drawing the wiring diagram and connecting it to drawn dials.

In the latter case, the measurements can be done by some sort of dowsing to find the dial reading.

www.wdjensen123.com/hieronymus/HieronymusPatent.pdf

I have had some experience with this sort of machine www.raydionics.com/radionic.html

After a time it was possible to diagnose and apply the remedy without using the machine. Thus the use of a wiring diagram is an intermediate step

[LorrB]

Thanks for that... geez, hope my poor old intellect can follow the instructions... but will give it a try.

Are the machines available in Australia?

[paul]

I don't know about availability of either type of machine in Aus.

If you are interested in radionics you might like to start with Tansley. www.amazon.com/Radionics-Subtle-Anatomy-David-Tansley/dp/0846410443/ref=pd_sim_b_1

He studied the Bailey material and his work is directly based on that.

The machine I used to have access to (assisting the practitioner) was built by Tansley as a private experimental machine.

www.raydionics.com/

And I found this: " I can take an ordinary empty cigar box and mount a tuning dial on top of it. . .By properly setting the dial at a given tuning, some psychics have been able to cure a given disease."

www.wdjensen123.com/hieronymus/Report1.htm

[maat]

I am interested in this thread and I have read quite a few Bailey books myself. Hard going, but rewarding for some reason - ie how can you feel good about something you don't entirely understand?!

I notice that one of the esoteric titles (there are a selection) for the Lords of the first three Rays correspond with those found in Freemasonry. Is this a case of the author maybe being a mason and attributing those titles as he sees fit - or do the seven rays just dovetail into masonic lore and masonry adopted the titles?

Seven ray and seven colours of the rainbow connected? There are lots of sevens when you think about it.

[paul]

>do the seven rays just dovetail into masonic lore and masonry adopted the titles?

The local Creation is apparently based on 7 planes and 7 rays so that 7-fold structures occur everywhere.

(The 7 colours of the rainbow may be an artefact of perception. See Goethe's theory of colour - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Colours_%28book%29 )

The 7 planes are complemented by 5 electricities.

And the 7 rays are actually only sub-rays of the energy emitted by the Solar Logos - a Second Force god (of love)

[maat]

What do you mean by 5 electricities?

[paul]

"In 11501 BC the autumnal equinox was on the first degree of Aries. At this point the Sun began to move away from its position closest to Vishnu Nabhi or grand center to its position farthest from it. This movement set in motion the very slow and imperceptible decline in the mental virtue of humans. The intellectual power of man began to diminish. In the next 4800 years we lost the power to grasp spiritual knowledge. In the following 3600 years during the Sun's journey through the descending Treta Yuga the human intellect lost all power of grasping the divine magnetism. In the succeeding 2400 years of the journey of the Sun through the descending Dwapar yuga the intellect became more clouded and humanity lost the ability to understand the existence and nature of five electricities. Finally in the last 1200 years of the Kali Yuga the intellectual power became so weak that nothing about the creation could be understood. Only gross material level of existence was known to us."

ezinearticles.com/?Time,-is-it-Cyclical-Or-Linear?-A-Fresh-Look-at-the-Ancient-Vedic-Yug-System&id=3985555

books.google.com.au/books?id=5BMFOOoVGZkC&pg=PA185&lpg=PA185&dq=%22five+electricities&source=bl&ots=NfhrWKeAzn&sig=7ys77snkZIJfBlRxdtnWDQkJdl0&hl=en&ei=bLDfS96jGMqGkAWgxIyaCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22five%20electricities&f=false

In my perception, each plane is comprised of 7 subplanes and 5 electricities. Similarly for the subplanes.

By analogy, a house is made from the substances of the planes and when we stand in the house we experience that substance. There are however wires and pipes in the walls that deliver power and water to the room but that are not seen by the occupant. Thus the planes are apparent to most observers but the electricities are not

[maat]

Good link paul. (I could not access the second link for some reason?)

It is a bit depressing to discover that we are in a natural cycle of declination. Should we just bang our heads against the wall? The Inner self says there must be good reason for it, but ..

Having said that, our lodge went through the normal birth, growth, stagnation, decline cycle and now we find ourselves being reborn again and it is wonderful. A real joy.

[LorrB]

I have been following your links etc re radionics. It is certainly a fascinating subject and much more complex than I anticipated. It would take half a life time to become proficient (and safe) using it.

The safety aspect was real surprise to me. I usually think of healing work being a one way street - donation of positive energies toward the sufferer. Although I did go to a lecture once where the guest speaker stated that most healers die in their 60's. I didn't take particular notice of that at the time, actually it made me think that she was maybe a tad unreliable. I certainly know of some aged healers who are doing just fine.

[paul]

>I could not access the second link for some reason?

Search Google Books for "five electricities"

>The safety aspect was real surprise to me.

I think it is common for healers focussed on the astral to pick up entities and energies without being aware of them

>donation of positive energies toward the sufferer.

Donation often boosts the client for a while but if the underlying problem is not fixed it is a temporary boost.

Often there are unresolved matters of consciousness e.g. forgiving a relative for past events, that permit the dis-ease to continue.

[LorrB]

I just came across this in New Scientist... having had 'an experience' (nice) at the hands of charismatic healers in a Catholic church I find it a bit disconcerting that someone can turn my brain off.

(no rude comments please

www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627574.200-brain-shuts-off-in-response-to-healers-prayer.html

[paul]

That is not a well-structured experiment. For example it was not designed to deal with the possibility that most people have healing power that is receivable by those who wish to do so.

[LorrB]

May 5, 2010 17:21:22 GMT 9.5 paul said:

That is not a well-structured experiment. For example it was not designed to deal with the possibility that most people have healing power that is receivable by those who wish to do so.

Good point.

In my case I went along to the healing mass because when I used to go to the Catholic Church regularly years ago there was no such thing as charismatic healing masses AND speaking in tongues

I went with a cousin and was goggle eyed. When the hands on stuff happened I had to grasp around in my mind trying to think of someone who needed healing so I could stand in their stead... meaning I was not in a particularly meditative or prayerful state of mind.

After they prayed on me I ended up (with other people) lying on the floor in a state similar to that when one is enjoying the pre-operation medication

I have to admit to having a passing interested in glossalalia (I wonder if anything like that happens outside churches or meeting hall.. in lodge?)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossolalia

There are many exciting things to ponder upon. Bit like a jigsaw puzzle really, a piece here, a piece there - its trying to fit all the pieces together that is a real challenge.

[paul]

I have had some experience with a laying on of hands. The pastor used to line up the people and walk along invoking a blessing on each and mostly they fell backwards and were caught.

He would say that healing the body is not so useful as healing the mind.

And I noticed after his knocking me over that my mind was less subject to negative thoughts for a week.

Glossolalia has no syntax and hence is not a language. The only channeled new language that arguably has a syntax is Enochian. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian

The critique that the syntax is too close to English may be inappropriate as English has a close relationship to Sanscrit - supposedly a sacred language.

Glossolalia seems to be the product of inherent nature spirits playing games.

Cheers

[LorrB]

Is Enochian the same as 'the language of the birds' or 'the green language'?

[LorrB]

As a little aside here... I dream't the title of a book once, which was in french! It was translated for me by the next french person I met and the title made sense. I have wondered how one can dream in a foriegn language? It does lead me to believe that I am not the only one accessing my personal computer, the brain. (But I don't tell too many people that)