Consciousness in animals

[paul]

Look at the eyes of these two to detect the difference in consciousness



Note that the young animal has very little situational awareness

[fjrogers]

There certainly is a difference in consciousness between the younger animal and the older animal. The same would apply to humans up to a point.

[paul]

Have a look at the eyes of this fox. What sort of intelligence is looking at the camera?

Is the point of looking in the eyes or is it further back - in the head?

[fjrogers]

The fox would be one of the higher animals and therefore more intelligent than marine life. The brain is behind the eyes and projects emanations which animate the eyes in certain ways. This can become apparent when looking at the fox's eyes.

[paul]

An interesting intelligence in this tiger

[paul]

Compare the eyes of the fox and the tiger. Notice the fox is looking from the front surface of its eyes. This means very little consciousness of self.

From where is the tiger looking?

[paul]

This is an important skill - identifying the point of seeing. With this skill it is often possible to estimate the level of consciousness of other humans.


Identify the point of looking here:







Now try with this one








Try each eye separately. What do you observe?

[Deleted]

Good morning members/non.

So after browsing I find that this topic will suffice for my question.

I would inquire as to when, how and why does God choose our place?

Does God chose when, who or why we connect?

Does the cosmic "I" get to choose the human "I" want or the job "I" want or the particular time that I wanted?

Or was "I" just shot into some human child at some point? Was "I" initially from I m the males seed or did "I" come into the human after the mix of the sperm/egg? Did "I" by chance wait until the little bambino was popping out of the hoohah and then "I" zapped in?

For some reason this question sits on the top of my mind since awaking.

All of these choices are made by some being....me, God or is it some magic performed by birthing doctors(or the exit) to activate something to allow us in.

[Deleted]

My roommates dog and I have to say that this dog scares the living crap out of me.  Then there is the stray cat that my son is deeply in love with/ connected too. I swear at times i think it (the cat) wants to kill me. At every turn or step down the stairs its at my feet tripping me. 

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When "I" look into a mirror, it is not the human looking back and I can tell that it(the human) is not concerned with what it sees. Is this the way "I" made him feel in life?
"I" can only see the reflection of a beaten dog, a broken animal that was forced to do whatever "I" wanted it to do(excluding learning , training by parents/adults/schooling. It hasn't been his life that has been lived and now that I find this time period in my life where I wish I could separate myself from the beast to set him free, as he has deserved it since birth. I desire to set him free as best as I can.

Now suicide would be backtracking so to speak and my beast truly deserves more than I have given. I have hurt, over fed, beat, worked and trained this animal to do all but what "I" was supposed to do with it and I need to d o that which i need to do with him and then he needs to be free. As I said killing him would not be rewarding him for his patience in allowing me to do as I have done all along without going Mad.

Now, "I" am mentally trying to find a way to prepare this beast for another transition. I feel it's breaking point  is wearing thin as it recalls the promises of rest and relaxation that I have given it upon the adult growth of my children. How do "I" go back on this promise to tell the animal that "Hey little buddy, sorry I lied to you....again, we ain't done yet!"?

Growing to love your animal and then assuring trust only to rip it away. How long can a beast remain loyal after so much disloyalty to it?

Does this make any sense to anyone else? French Vanilla is sooooo goooooooood.

[elijah]

Jan 3, 2021 23:40:47 GMT 9.5 @aloneinthedark said:

Growing to love your animal and then assuring trust only to rip it away. How long can a beast remain loyal after so much disloyalty to it?

Does this make any sense to anyone else? French Vanilla is sooooo goooooooood.

Defining such things is a bit like setting up emotional land minds especially when the word itself can be subjective,allegorical feeling with the heart and not getting emotionally or imaginatively attached to definitions based on ones own experience kinda like float away the connotations of good , bad , life, death so im not anchored down into set conclusions and wasting energy arguing with other losing soul pieces as firefox has said the animal might be hare to help if the human thrives to sustain the  proper relationship . animals know there purpose a wolf will be a wolf but the wolf doesn't define itself as animal or wolf
 

[Deleted]

So after striving hard for so long to figure out what the heck happened to me to make me do....what ever it is that I don't think that I am doing right is now a bad thing?

Elijah, I tell ya. Being told to take half of what I take in as not really the way I take it in is more confusing than not knowing anything at all. As I try to understand what I should be doing I am encountered by a thousand other comments that I dhive into ideas to approach the forum for answers that I know I should not be seeking here. Perhaps I have more time on my hands than I think.

[paul]

>try to understand what I should be doing

Stop beating up yourself. That is counterproductive.

Increase the flow of Spirit/Life. Life will carry you forward.

Be of good cheer!

[Deleted]

Does the human have its own voice? I'm curious.

[paul]

The term "the human" is a moving feast. Its meaning depends on the spiritual development of the human system.

The standard human has, in each chakra, an intelligence, usually a nature spirit. (There 7 major chakras, 49 secondary and 343 tertiary)

The chakra intelligences need to become competent in their own domain - e.g. managing to put the spoon into the mouth without losing most of the food.

As the chakra intelligences become more able to control their frequency range in the human system, they often like to take charge. No doubt you have met people whose mental processes suppress their emotional processes.

Thus the partially developed human tends to be dominated by the intelligence of a particular chakra.

When humans are quite old, some of the chakra intelligences may bail out - leaving the human in a child-like state.

Trauma may cause chakra intelligences to close down or even depart. Autism is a common symptom.

So when the human gets its act together it has a more or less integrated personality and that personality takes charge - and fends off effective spiritual practices, encouraging ineffective practices. The approach of spiritual energies threatens the sovereignty of the personality.

If the spiritual part of the human is strong and persistent then eventually the flow of Spirit will lift the point of consciousness above that of the personality and the human then enters the first stage of enlightenment.

Thus various intelligences may be in charge of the human system at different stages - and each has its own agenda and expression/voice.

I have given my personality intelligence a name and often speak to it. For example I will ask it what food it wants next. It is quite fussy about the order in which I take vitamin pills.

The soul (solar angel) takes control in the first stage enlightenment - but is phased out in the second and third stages as the human system becomes transparent to Spirit.

[paul]

I was looking at a photo of the latest US president and put my attention to his forehead to feel what sort of intellect was present. Then I looked at some previous presidents



Note that there is a slight pressing forwards out of the forehead of the mental energy in most of them - indicating an active intelligence.

Here is the latest






Notice that where there is an energy field pushing from the forehead, in some cases it emerges just above the eyes and sometimes further up. What does that mean?

Then you might like to look at the intelligence in the eyes. Notice how watchful, even fearful, most are - particularly the left eye.

Probably better to be careful what you put in print about those in power.

[sammy]

First off im just SUPER glad im not the only that sees this!

Aloneinthedark... I know the want to move forward is urgent in the chamber of a growing mind. It would seem to me though as soon as you understand one room, it opens doors to other rooms of equal or more avenues of thought. I have not found the end of this cycle, and also have not seen it end in others (there is always more to learn). The only advice I think anyone can offer is to keep looking and you will find what you seek, off choice is giving up but once this snowball gets rolling its not in us to want it to stop. We can feel and see it moving us in a desired direction.

My comments on this subject:

The centered mind will see the most.

[paul]

""Several years ago, my brother was a pastor at a Baptist church on Highway 90 in Duson, Louisiana. ...

My brother decided he was tired of this animal eating the cat food....He decided he would wait until the opossum came closer for a clean kill shot. The opossum did proceed back towards his house but stopped under the lights in the middle of the parking lot. ...

The opossum morphed into a humanoid figure about six feet tall with a very small head. It was very thin and had arms an legs like a human but also very thin. It began to pace back and forth across the parking lot but always looking in his direction. ... It morphed back into a possum and ran back to its original position at the base of the tree.

A few minutes later his wife came out ... Shortly, the opossum again came out into the middle of the parking lot and morphed into the humanoid shape once again. His wife freaked and asked him what it could be. She thought she was looking at a demon.

A few seconds later they heard a loud rustling sound coming from it and then two feathered wings spread out from its back. He said the wingspan was at least 12 feet. It then started flapping its wings and rose off the ground and hovered at about 15 feet all the while still looking at them."

www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2021/03/opossum-transforms-into-winged-humanoid.html?fbclid=IwAR2Drs4qauWeV4qq6G28ObAeN56oK6u2vj6cb1j4Gr--rdp_joQqDSQ3Vv4

It seems that the creature wanted to show itself to both the man and the wife. Why?

What sort of experiments might test possible motivations?