I am reading a biography of Krishnamurti by the Indian Pulpul Jayakar and just don't know what to make of it. By the time I joined the TS, Krishnaji had already struck out on his own, bringing with him many devoted theosophists, some of whom drifted back into the fold in later years.
How could the leaders of the TS been so wrong in declaring him the World Teacher? In reading about the physical anguish Krishnaji endured in the early years after the break, I wonder how much of it was the result of CWL's training. I understand that Krishnaji never denied that he was the world teacher nor did he confirm it either.
Does his teaching hold meaning for us today? Back in 1929 he said, “Truth is a pathless land.” Did he mean, and does it mean for us today, there is no path to Truth? Or, once having found Truth somehow, it guides us nowhere.
He was a gentle iconoclast, whose teaching may still have relevance, but I don't hear much of his work today. Have you?
I think the key is that he was recognised by Leadbeater.
Leadbeater seems to have had a preference for teaching adolescent boys.
Also Leadbeater, according to an Australian biographer, was a member of the OTO, living 200 yards from the home of the Australian leader of the OTO - and that Leadbeater's trial in London was headed by a TS member who also belonged to the OTO. The higher degrees of the OTO make use of sexual energies.
While I know little about TS I would hazard an uneducated guess (after a bottle of wine with my wife) that any world teacher would be a little overwhelmed when she or he worked it out. I dont think that it is something anyone could decalare, as there are so many claiming the position, but I think that the said perosn would be recognised for what she or he was naturally.
Puts me in a bit of a difficult spot personally given some of the things that have happened to me in the masonic and the conspiracy worlds (some reckon it is me - not a claim that I have ever made), but having as a result thought about this I really do think that any expected world teacher would simply go about her or his business doing what they could when they could. I really doubt that they would be that worried about anyone declaring them. They might even think sod this for a game of soldiers and let the human race reset itself.
But as I am a bit tipsy you can take these thoughts with a pinch of salt.
Just call me the Universal Educator ;D
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>I think that the said perosn would be recognised for what she or he was naturally.
One of the interesting aspects of the NT story is that the priests paid 30 pieces of silver (enough to buy a commercial clay deposit) to identify someone who had been teaching daily in the Temple for 3 years.
Unless there was another reason to pay the money, it suggests to me that the priests did not know which of the various rabbis was the leader. Hence, taking the story at face value, world teachers cannot be recognised easily.
It may of course be that the NT story has been modified - or even that the story is a composite of various stories.
Post by stewartedwards on Jun 2, 2013 7:05:16 GMT 9.5
I think that I might need to read the NT again, its been a while. beyond the Gospel of John I havent really looked at it for a long time. Genesis on the other hand....
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A Simple Man, who tried and failed to reilluminate this planet.
Slogging Scotsman Ma’at Ankh Re
Who am I trying to kid for I can’t even resolve family darkness. Whoever is next to step up, please do.
One of the interesting aspects of the NT story is that the priests paid 30 pieces of silver (enough to buy a commercial clay deposit) to identify someone who had been teaching daily in the Temple for 3 years.
And he was probably happy doing that.
A Simple Man, who tried and failed to reilluminate this planet.
Slogging Scotsman Ma’at Ankh Re
Who am I trying to kid for I can’t even resolve family darkness. Whoever is next to step up, please do.
There are some grounds for thinking that the basis of the Jesus stories are the lives of Jesus and his brother James the Just - suitably modified by graftings from the ancient traditions e.g. the raising of Asar/Lazarus - and time shifted to give the NT a suitable aura of antiquity.
Apparently James the Just was thrown down from the walls of the temple and killed by a blow to the head from a fuller's club whereupon all work on the temple ceased. If so, this may be the basis of the Hiram drama in the 3rd degree. But it is unlikely to be the basis of Hiram (the root Hr can give Hiram, Horus who raised Asar, and Hermes). The word Hiram can be translated as: high born, and therefore not a personal name at all.