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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 8, 2011 10:06:01 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Aug 8, 2011 10:29:01 GMT 9.5
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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 8, 2011 10:33:56 GMT 9.5
He says there are "others" who are ready to carry out more attacks. It’s sad that a Brother (and I say that with my stomach churning) did this.
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Post by paul on Aug 8, 2011 10:39:39 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Aug 8, 2011 10:42:59 GMT 9.5
Yes, because of the message that sends to those already suspicious of Freemasonry. Popes in the past were mass murderers also. We should be ever vigilant.
The question we might have to ask ourselves is 'was he led to the door believing he would find power and control over others?
How did he manage to become a mason holding the sorts of ideas he did? Lodge sleeping?
But then we have the notorious Propaganda Due (P2) lodge which was usurped for evil purpose. I believe some of those lodge members are still active in manipulating Freemasonry and they still have murders occurring within the Vatican, Capt of the Swiss Guard no less.
Beware, the Trojan Horse.
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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 8, 2011 10:48:58 GMT 9.5
Yes, because of the message that sends to those already suspicious of Freemasonry. Popes in the past were mass murderers also. We should be ever vigilant. The question we might have to ask ourselves is 'was he led to the door believing he would find power and control over others? How did he manage to become a mason holding the sorts of ideas he did? Lodge sleeping? But then we have the notorious Propaganda Due (P2) lodge which was usurped for evil purpose. I believe some of those lodge members are still active in manipulating Freemasonry and they still have murders occurring within the Vatican, Capt of the Swiss Guard no less. Beware, the Trojan Horse. 1. He could have kept his extremist views to himself. 2. Pretty much every religion, cult, society has had its black sheep. 3. There could be an evil agenda by manipulators.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 8, 2011 11:04:30 GMT 9.5
Sorry Paul, our posts crossed. Like you, I thought he looked like he was driving in 'automatic'. Programmed. He was completely void of expression. I guess it might be interesting to hear what his personality was like when he was a young lad. I am deeply suspicious about the official story on our own Aussie 'mass murderer', Martin Bryant. A man with an extremely low IQ (that of a 6 year old) that managed to carry out what trained army personnel would find difficult to do marksmanwise. www.despatch.cth.com.au/Misc/martinbryant/MartinBryant1.html
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Post by paul on Aug 8, 2011 11:17:26 GMT 9.5
The Norwegian guy apparently shot 90 in 90 minutes while hunting across a fair sized island. That seems as good as Martin Bryant.
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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 8, 2011 13:29:43 GMT 9.5
So who exactly could be doing the manipulating? I know the usual suspects: government, money interests, and secret organizations... any others?
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Post by paul on Aug 8, 2011 13:43:20 GMT 9.5
I do not know enough to speculate about Norway.
On the other hand the 9/11 and 7/7 events have multiple documentaries on the web pointing out the flaws in the official versions.
With the demise of the Soviet Union, the military establishment ran out of enemies. How then to justify all that money?
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Post by Henka on Aug 8, 2011 13:55:35 GMT 9.5
There are other videos debunking the conspiracy ones. Sometimes, it really is a conspiracy of evil, outside forces, rather than a black flag operation.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 8, 2011 14:18:17 GMT 9.5
Just because some things are odd does not make it a conspiracy, however if something is odd, and interesting, why not seek further. Better reading up on that than watching the nightly news to see how many people died in car crashes, street fights, politician bickering, big businesss crying poor while posting record profits ..etc etc. the usual stuff.
If I was fully fledged conspiracy theory person I would make more of the recent helicopter crash in which many of the personnel aboard were those that went in and took out Bin Laden.. who was buried at sea 'in seconds flat'.
In this case I think it was probably a coincidence, as they were soldiers and still working in a war zone.
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Post by paul on Aug 8, 2011 14:28:45 GMT 9.5
>make more of the recent helicopter crash in which many of the personnel aboard were those that went in and took out Bin Laden.. who was buried at sea 'in seconds flat'.
That reminds me that most of the important witnesses to the JFK assassination died in the following 5 years - lots of accidents.
And just to make sure the empty JFK coffin was dumped in the deepest part of the ocean.
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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 8, 2011 14:42:07 GMT 9.5
If I was fully fledged conspiracy theory person I would make more of the recent helicopter crash in which many of the personnel aboard were those that went in and took out Bin Laden.. who was buried at sea 'in seconds flat'. I am not a fully fledged conspiracy theory person but that does sound very, very odd
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Post by Henka on Aug 8, 2011 15:58:32 GMT 9.5
Not so odd. The helo they were in was the only one capable of operating at high altitude, and was a large, slow target. easily taken out by an RPG. The bigger question is: Why are we still diddling around in Afturdistan? Should have left when the boogy-man (Bin Laden) high tailed it out the back of Tora Bora.
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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 8, 2011 18:51:17 GMT 9.5
I just read the news. It makes more sense now. Those guys are highly trained. It makes sense that they were on another mission when this happened.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 9, 2011 8:21:19 GMT 9.5
Getting back to Norway. When I stop to think about it I really don't know much about psychopaths, maybe part of they psyche is just not there, hence the vacant sort of look that chap had. Must find out more. We have an horrific case of evil right here in my home city. A young woman murdered her 80+ yr old neighbour for her house (?). She dismembered the poor women with a chain saw and told friends and relatives afterwards, that murdering 'turned her on' plus more which we won't go into. Now is that insanity, evil, I just cannot get my head around behaviour like that. Masonically, is The Plan perfect and we accept what is? Is it our Work to perfect The Plan? And how the heck do we do either of the above?
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Post by paul on Aug 9, 2011 8:23:04 GMT 9.5
>I just cannot get my head around behaviour like that.
Where behaviour is inhuman we might consider whether the directive intelligence is inhuman.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 9, 2011 9:00:42 GMT 9.5
Good point.
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Post by Circleoflight on Aug 9, 2011 13:39:39 GMT 9.5
Getting back to Norway. When I stop to think about it I really don't know much about psychopaths, maybe part of they psyche is just not there, hence the vacant sort of look that chap had. Must find out more. We have an horrific case of evil right here in my home city. A young woman murdered her 80+ yr old neighbour for her house (?). She dismembered the poor women with a chain saw and told friends and relatives afterwards, that murdering 'turned her on' plus more which we won't go into. Now is that insanity, evil, I just cannot get my head around behaviour like that. Masonically, is The Plan perfect and we accept what is? Is it our Work to perfect The Plan? And how the heck do we do either of the above? I think empathy is an evolutionary thing. These people cannot possibly be in touch with the suffering they cause. REALLY in touch. Perhaps they don't have the necessary evolutionary chips to comprehend certain feelings. They don't feel as deeply as others, they have shallow emotions
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