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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 18:00:47 GMT 9.5
>>I do not figure i need to know or declare what i am ... Not my problem ... not getting answers when i ask God either!
Are you saying that when you ask God questions about what you are, you get know (meant to type 'no', but came out as 'know', leaving it in) answers? If so, is it because of this that you decided that you do not need to know or declare what you are?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 19:42:30 GMT 9.5
It is not like a yes or no answer ... To help u understand my point ... If i am here to learn something I guess ... Not too many get close to being in the same ball park when Describing what they think i am So i have to figure it does not matter OR then i find I am living in shadow of doubt and questioning things !!! and mystery of the truth becomes more elusive!!!!\ > If so, is it because of this that you decided that you do not need to know or declare what you are? dud hu ... In the 4 agreements agreeing means claiming it ! The AA Emotional pressure cooker / harder i plan in before breakfast (most days) much the same routine ... There are some who decide things for u and decide what they think u should do ... I do my best to not upset those who do the programming on the newbies ... A bunch seem to feel i need programmed and wont be right till their vicarious programming takes over I am trying to be kind and express self emotional control and display rejection of an uncertainty rather just to avoid implication of guess often humans translate into facts when read ... ... But i am peering at the Moray 7 rays now and see similarities in myself on some layers I seem to think i am first ray in most aspects from the reasoning that not too many been through the sequence of events like i have or anywhere close to some of stuff ive processed Interesting.. Well, humility is in a sense, accurately presenting what one is, rather than as some seem to me to believe, presenting oneself as lower than one really is.. A person may be a saint or a prophet, and if they described themselves as such, they would still be humble. Perhaps doubt comes in when one is comparing oneself to an imagined position? >> A bunch seem to feel i need programmed and wont be right till their vicarious programming takes over Programming by vibrational influence? Somewhat like unnoticed forces building a partition in your personal temple? The resulting sub-intelligence might even learn to do its own shopping. >>I am trying to be kind and express self emotional control and display rejection of an uncertainty rather just to avoid implication of guess often humans translate into facts when read ... You are rejecting what you are uncertain about?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 5:03:23 GMT 9.5
> You are rejecting what you are uncertain about? Whatever u desire to believe for a response ... As it not for me to tell u how to think ... I just have to deal with my own concepts not urs I am just trying to understand your post
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Post by elijah on May 9, 2015 8:58:08 GMT 9.5
>> A bunch seem to feel i need programmed and wont be right till their vicarious programming takes over Programming by vibrational influence? Somewhat like unnoticed forces building a partition in your personal temple? The resulting sub-intelligence might even learn to do its own shopping. vibrational influence? i have noticed that threw sound more times then not or speech when one seems to place there program and its not vibeing per say with me or just manifesting unnecessary space for my response which will cause conflict within my own temple ...i feel its vibrational energy in my upper stomach....usually a negative or Hook as stated in other post...i have tried hoopoonono methods with the forgive me im sorry approach... but with certain people it doesn't tend to stop them from trying to hook me ...what i notice is i can release there tension by the flame heart approach and dis SPELL the energy also using a deep breath to release the tension if it becomes bombarding...and lowers my frequency enuff to pull me into emotional quarrels... Somewhat like unnoticed forces building a partition in your personal temple? yes...i also noticed women to harbor more powerful sources for this ...as with men humor seems to get you by or pretty much flatten the wave in my opinion ....but unseen forces of various sorts and power dwell within both male and female ....just seems like the female have multiple levels that are more complex and enticing when it comes to breaking ones balance i have noticed.... now when it comes to God ....only 1s own concept threw experience physical and invisible can dictate what they see as god or in god.....seems like the bible threw alot of people into the loop never mentioning they are multiple dietys gods lords in the book ...
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Post by paul on May 9, 2015 19:59:31 GMT 9.5
>Human evolution seems to need to feel rather than think
It is fair to say that human feelings are more often true than human thoughts, but that is a transitional phase, to be followed by yet another transition.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 21:59:17 GMT 9.5
>> A bunch seem to feel i need programmed and wont be right till their vicarious programming takes over Programming by vibrational influence? Somewhat like unnoticed forces building a partition in your personal temple? The resulting sub-intelligence might even learn to do its own shopping. vibrational influence? i have noticed that threw sound more times then not or speech when one seems to place there program and its not vibeing per say with me or just manifesting unnecessary space for my response which will cause conflict within my own temple ...i feel its vibrational energy in my upper stomach....usually a negative or Hook as stated in other post...i have tried hoopoonono methods with the forgive me im sorry approach... but with certain people it doesn't tend to stop them from trying to hook me ...what i notice is i can release there tension by the flame heart approach and dis SPELL the energy also using a deep breath to release the tension if it becomes bombarding...and lowers my frequency enuff to pull me into emotional quarrels... Somewhat like unnoticed forces building a partition in your personal temple? yes...i also noticed women to harbor more powerful sources for this ...as with men humor seems to get you by or pretty much flatten the wave in my opinion ....but unseen forces of various sorts and power dwell within both male and female ....just seems like the female have multiple levels that are more complex and enticing when it comes to breaking ones balance i have noticed.... now when it comes to God ....only 1s own concept threw experience physical and invisible can dictate what they see as god or in god.....seems like the bible threw alot of people into the loop never mentioning they are multiple dietys gods lords in the book ... Thanks for picking up the post elijah, I put it out there as it is a new thing I have been forced to tackle now. I understand that we bring into this life various 'tags' that now thinking about it might be compared to attractors, or perhaps aspects of self. People's behaviour can push our buttons, or in the case of my analogy, vibrate our tags (it's a little crude). I think that when this happens without us being aware of what is going on, then the influence builds up a habitual network of consciousness that can potentially be somewhat isolated in the grand scheme of the being, an island so to speak. We might extend the model to apply to us as vibrational beings, people's actions being an expression of their vibrational status, and we vibrate in 'sympathy' mirror-like when our tags are activated. The way I have put this across seems a little negative I feel, because we are addressing being influenced in a way that goes under the radar and so the resulting 'islands' can appear exclusive, creating conflict in self, with 'their' own goals. I feel I have mixed too many analogies, I am still trying to get some grasp of this in my own self, hence the vagueness. My own experience of release techniques in this is limited so far, but I feel that perhaps they are more effectively applied at the time of influence(?), as we are in that aspect when we do it. I do not know, perhaps the degree of influence at that level between competing aspects is dependent on the amount of common ground between aspects? That same common ground between aspects I feel can be a battle ground, or perhaps corridor. The more influenced we allow our selves to be when in a conflicting aspect the more power is given to it, a sort of snowball effect, or maybe a coal dust ball. Also the more isolated conflicting aspects are, then the less available thoughts and emotions of other aspects are, this can be very subtle, or as different as black and white. Ideally we can move up a level of consciousness above the conflicting aspects and address it there, but that can be easier said than done, and my experience is that love is the key, not in the more limited sense of romantic love, but love being integrating in its highest definition.
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Post by paul on May 11, 2015 19:09:49 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on May 12, 2015 7:41:49 GMT 9.5
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia a Tzimtzum They said that the world and humanity have no real existence,... for it is impossible for anything to exist in true reality, since He fills all the worlds…. I am not sure this is a particularly useful proposition since Existence (on all the planes) is the space in which the manifested lives establish their experiences and qualify to return to the Source. In my experience, a Christian naming of the Tzimtzum is "the revelation of the Word". Thus the Divine out-breath, the creative Word/Song, is being sounded and Spirit is projected forth to become dense, dark and separate - and thus grounds for experience. And at the same time the Divine in-breath is occurring and separated intelligence-matter is selectively drawn back to the Source. If one were the Source one might say that there is no true reality, but for the rest of us it is as real as it gets
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 20:14:01 GMT 9.5
> (Damon Wayan) You'll get no sympathy from me! You want sympathy, look in the dictionary between shit, and syphilis!
When I mentioned sympathy, I was thinking in terms of the physics of sympathetic oscillations
or perhaps forced oscillations like this
I think it can be too easy sometimes to point the finger and see the source of an attack of influence on the self, but looking at the physics of forced oscillations, do we have some natural frequency tunings in us? I think so. I feel inclined now to compare the tags I mentioned earlier to natural frequencies within us. Perhaps we have the 'tuning forks' for many frequencies as part of our make up, and only those that we have mastered how to play them can we manage to damp down or shield the attempts at forced oscillation from external sources.
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Post by paul on May 15, 2015 10:18:54 GMT 9.5
.. As they do not desire to awaken us all at once, till, enough here get emotionally stable to hang with 4th or 5th dimensional beings ... This is an interesting concept. It seems to propose that: - humans are generally capable of higher consciousness without much more, if any, inner development - humans have had their "bandwidths" limited by either an intervention or a natural event/circumstance that no longer need apply - there are various intelligences intervening to alter the current trajectory of humanity - the awakening, in many cases, would be in advance of human capacity to cope
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Post by paul on May 15, 2015 19:30:07 GMT 9.5
... - humans have had their "bandwidths" limited by either an intervention or a natural event/circumstance that no longer need apply... I have observed that most humans have a block about 7.4 to prevent the physical body being sensitive to etheric energies, and a block about 5.4 to stop the lower mind being sensitive to soul-thought. These seem to be artificial blocks and I have observed their being removed in as little as a few minutes.
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Post by elijah on May 15, 2015 19:53:19 GMT 9.5
I have spent entire days avoiding the use of the word yes or no ... So I am pro se not playing the game of good and ebil ... Spending vast amounts of time not venting choice is where the energetic battery can become highly charged This is a wonderful exercise... and i must add on my brother i have tried this too ....and i noticed more times yes or no is truly the answer the one asking knows already ...silence is golden really helps me here..I have gotten real strict to the point where if someone ask me the time I dont round off I say the exact time...little pointless things like this can ingrain patterns of truth distortion i have noticed... - humans are generally capable of higher consciousness without much more, if any, inner development could it also be possible when a human at a certain level of being experiences higher consciousness a seed for inner development gets planted Satan seems to be the accuser on a short leash LOLFS - its necessary o so necessary.....especially when one trys... not to use the words yes or no around accusers unbeknownst to themselves...talk about a total body workout lol!! but the foundation layed by this practice is one of pure LOVE and understanding
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Post by paul on May 16, 2015 5:08:01 GMT 9.5
> could it also be possible when a human at a certain level of being experiences higher consciousness a seed for inner development gets planted
I have seen a number of humans with cosmic seeds attached but they seem to be more like custodians or carriers.
I have also seen interventions in humans so that their light bodies are more complete and/or have additional functionality, but I have not seen sufficient cases to consider that a standard process.
The usual situation seems to be that most of the requirements for spiritual unfoldment are present but that the human, almost always with adverse assistance, is rather slow and is lifted, if willing, by the rising tide within Existence. There are of course some honourable exceptions where the human struggles mightily against the adverse assistance - over many lifetimes.
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Post by fjrogers on Jul 7, 2015 14:35:06 GMT 9.5
What is essential to Masonry is belief in a Supreme Being. This can be regarded as a central, universal intelligence that guides and directs nature and humanity and evolution. I imagine that this supreme being does not have to be the God that we were taught to worship in our church going days. Different traditions have various views on the universal intelligence. When atheists say they don't believe in God that may believe in a universal, limitless being that is eternal.
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Post by paul on Jul 7, 2015 15:25:16 GMT 9.5
>What is essential to Masonry is belief in a Supreme Being.
Perhaps belief is a minimum requirement. The Roman church had all sorts of trouble with gnostics that did not believe because they knew.
And perhaps I would write "Supreme Beingness" so that I was not restricting to a point-focus or location-specific consciousness such as most humans experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:53:24 GMT 9.5
A person who is a genuine Mason, I believe cannot move up the levels without deepening the connection and therefore the belief in God, Supreme Being, G.A.O.T.U. I am not a Mason, but feel a strong spiritual connection with the organisation, and speak from that standpoint alone. I also believe that the genuine secrets are accessible to non-Masons.
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Post by paul on Jul 8, 2015 7:48:56 GMT 9.5
A person who is a genuine Mason, I believe cannot move up the levels without deepening the connection and therefore the belief in God, Supreme Being, G.A.O.T.U. I am not a Mason, but feel a strong spiritual connection with the organisation, and speak from that standpoint alone. I also believe that the genuine secrets are accessible to non-Masons. In my view, belief is valuable for quite a long time but becomes irrelevant when the human has sufficient inner experience. It may be that the GAOTU has little interest in Grand Lodges and human administrative structures, and that true and faithful brethren are recognized by their inner qualities. If so Creation itself may reveal its secrets to the worthy, regardless of their membership of human organizations.
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Post by fjrogers on Jul 8, 2015 10:45:10 GMT 9.5
>In my view, belief is valuable for quite a long time but becomes irrelevant when the human has sufficient inner experience.
I heartily agree with this statement Paul. People receive the genuine secrets and mysteries of the universe when they are right and ready to receive them regardless of any connections with organizations. This is a point to be remembered.
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Post by paul on Jul 8, 2015 12:41:51 GMT 9.5
>People receive the genuine secrets and mysteries of the universe when they are right and ready to receive them
And the receivers tend to maintain silence, except with those that are also accepted by Creation, to avoid the attentions of the unworthy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 18:57:27 GMT 9.5
A person who is a genuine Mason, I believe cannot move up the levels without deepening the connection and therefore the belief in God, Supreme Being, G.A.O.T.U. I am not a Mason, but feel a strong spiritual connection with the organisation, and speak from that standpoint alone. I also believe that the genuine secrets are accessible to non-Masons. In my view, belief is valuable for quite a long time but becomes irrelevant when the human has sufficient inner experience. It may be that the GAOTU has little interest in Grand Lodges and human administrative structures, and that true and faithful brethren are recognized by their inner qualities. If so Creation itself may reveal its secrets to the worthy, regardless of their membership of human organizations. I fully agree with you.
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