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Post by blackdragon1 on Sept 9, 2010 18:04:42 GMT 9.5
The One About Whom Naught May be Said(OAWNMBS)
I have come across this terminology in a number of sites. If i remember correctly, the concept goes like this-: 7 Stars of the Great Bear constellation(male), interacts with 7 Stars of the Pleiades constellation(female), also called the 7 Sisters and Sirius...with the 7 Cosmic Rays of creation manifested by this cosmic interaction..which "beams" down to Our Great Sun, which in turn bathes our entire Solar system with the rays
OAWNMBS is said to reside as consciousness within the Great Bear constellation.
Why the name OAWNMBS? and What lies beyond the OAWNMBS as we progress up the Hierarchy?
Sometime in the late 1990s(1997 I think), during a period of high level of stress as an undergraduate student, I had a lucid dream..in which I saw myself surounded in a red beam/ray..I looked up, trying to identify the source of this red beam/ray..but the source was so high up..so far away that i couldnt identify the source.
Could this have been one of the 7 cosmic rays? does anyone have an idea what the red symbolises?
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Post by paul on Sept 9, 2010 21:21:03 GMT 9.5
The term The One About Whom Naught Can Be Said arises in the Alice Bailey material in much of which she cooperates with Djwal Kuhl. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djwal_KhulThe term you refer to is possibly somewhat theatrical as some things can be said about that Being. As the Earth Logos exists within the Solar Logos, so the Solar Logos exists within a greater Cosmic Logos that is traditionally associated with the star Alcyone - about which this solar system is said to rotate. Alcyone is in the Pleiades. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_%28Greek_mythology%29 It is important to distinguish the goddesses of the Earth from the identically named stars. If the Earth does rotate around Alcyone, then the gravitational theory of stellar structures is invalid - as can be deduced from the same gravitational force supposedly forming a spherical planet, a flat elliptic solar system and a flat spiral galaxy The star Alcyone is sometimes called "the Queen who destroys evil". This can also be seen in Isis (Queen of Egypt) treading under her left foot the evil serpent Apop. Alcyone is associated with another star Merope (translates as Bee Face). Thus we have a Queen and a Bee Face so we might think of a beehive. And the Antient Masons called their lodges hives. If the solar system rotates around Alcyone, then a line dropped into the (temple of the) solar system is a plumb line. The Pleiades veil a Great Mother. Meditation may be useful |
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Post by paul on Sept 9, 2010 21:24:08 GMT 9.5
Your red beam seems to come from an aspect of The Source of All (the creation that humans can see). This Source is also known as The Great Architect of the Universe.
Meditation may be useful.
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Post by Henka on Sept 10, 2010 4:16:42 GMT 9.5
First of all, the constellations are only so as seen from the perspective of Earth. They do not exist as real groupings of star clusters in space. Study of actual astronomy may be useful. Perhaps.  |
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Post by LorrB on Sept 10, 2010 10:12:05 GMT 9.5
 Faustina was asked by her spiritual director and confessor to ask Jesus what the blue and red rays meant.
During prayer I heard these words within me: The two rays denote Blood and Water. The pale ray stands for the Water which makes souls righteous. The red ray stands for the Blood which is the life of souls...These two rays issued forth from the very depths of My tender mercy when My agonized Heart was opened by a lance on the Cross. These rays shield souls from the wrath of My Father. Happy is the one who will dwell in their shelter, for the just hand of God shall not lay hold of him.
handmaidsofmercy.typepad.com/handmaids_of_mercy/2006/10/about_the_divin.html
Try translating these words on a cosmic level. I find it interesting that a galaxy side on showing the photon belt looks like a lance has pierced it and can also be illustrated as the a point within a circle. The Blue lodge deals with life on Earth. (Earth and Water... bodies.) The Red lodge deals with matters beyond Earth. (Air and Fire ... souls.) |
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Post by blackdragon1 on Sept 10, 2010 16:47:51 GMT 9.5
As the Earth Logos exists within the Solar Logos, so the Solar Logos exists within a greater Cosmic Logos that is traditionally associated with the star Alcyone - about which this solar system is said to rotate. Alcyone is in the Pleiades. Does Sirius play any role in the cosmic scheme of things? What about the Great Bear constellation? |
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Post by blackdragon1 on Sept 10, 2010 16:54:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by paul on Sept 10, 2010 17:36:29 GMT 9.5
Does Sirius play any role in the cosmic scheme of things? What about the Great Bear constellation? The Logos of Sirius is an elder brother to the Solar Logos. On lower levels it is said that beings from Sirius run the solar system education system for humans and some other species. The Great Bear are the 7 Rishis who are the husbands of the 7 Sisters. Both sets of Beings are of great impact upon the Solar System and the Earth |
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Post by vajranagini on Oct 8, 2010 11:32:56 GMT 9.5
Taoists place great emphasis on the constellation of the Great Bear, they also have actual ritual dances that are supposed to link them up with the energies of the constellations. I will see if I can find more information on the subject.
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Post by paul on Oct 8, 2010 11:58:32 GMT 9.5
>they also have actual ritual dances that are supposed to link them up with the energies of the constellations.
I used to practice "sacred dance" long ago - but it was primarily derived from (preserved in) folk traditions and therefore focused upon earth energies
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Post by choochoo808 on Dec 21, 2011 7:46:39 GMT 9.5
The term The One About Whom Naught Can Be Said arises in the Alice Bailey material in much of which she cooperates with Djwal Kuhl. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djwal_KhulThere's that name/word again... |
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Post by paul on Dec 21, 2011 8:10:44 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Dec 21, 2011 8:34:18 GMT 9.5
Rule 14
Listen, touch, see, apply, know.
A good holiday read. Rule 14 jumped out at me... it is probably something that all of us probably might agree on (impossible ? ) |
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Post by paul on Jan 25, 2012 13:18:15 GMT 9.5
The above link to Initiation, Human and Solar is not functioning. This works www.ngsm.org/aabdk/bk/initiation/toc.html"The three planetary schemes wherein the great experiment of initiation is being tried are the Earth, Venus, and one other. Venus was the first sphere of experiment, and the success of the endeavor and the force generated was the cause of a similar effort being made on our planet." Hence one of the meanings of the five pointed star in Masonry is Venus. |
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Post by sekhmet on Jan 25, 2012 15:06:03 GMT 9.5
The One About Whom Naught May be Said(OAWNMBS)I have come across this terminology in a number of sites. If i remember correctly, the concept goes like this-: 7 Stars of the Great Bear constellation(male), interacts with 7 Stars of the Pleiades constellation(female), also called the 7 Sisters and Sirius...with the 7 Cosmic Rays of creation manifested by this cosmic interaction..which "beams" down to Our Great Sun, which in turn bathes our entire Solar system with the rays OAWNMBS is said to reside as consciousness within the Great Bear constellation. Why the name OAWNMBS? and What lies beyond the OAWNMBS as we progress up the Hierarchy?Sometime in the late 1990s(1997 I think), during a period of high level of stress as an undergraduate student, I had a lucid dream..in which I saw myself surounded in a red beam/ray..I looked up, trying to identify the source of this red beam/ray..but the source was so high up..so far away that i couldnt identify the source. Could this have been one of the 7 cosmic rays? does anyone have an idea what the red symbolises? One may cut to the chase and say that it was likely either Geburah/Mars or Da'ath, which is said to manifest the ("very strange", according to Dion Fortune) red of Supernal Justice. But if you can remember the date or even the year and month of the day you had that dream, the position of Mars in respect to your own natal horoscope would almost certainly give you a clue as to its nature. Also, aspects to Neptune are conducive to "significant dreams", so you would also want to take a look at your natal Neptune vis a vis planetary transits and any transits of Neptune on that day. |
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Post by paul on Jan 25, 2012 15:49:35 GMT 9.5
The title "the One about Whom naught can be said" is a bit misleading and perhaps exists only because AAB thought in those terms.
As we can see from the above quote if that Entity is the Greater Sun around which our system orbits (literally or figuratively) then a line from that Entity into the (heavenly temple in the) solar system is a plumb line by construction.
This is one of the meanings veiled by the plumb line.
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Post by paul on Feb 12, 2021 8:33:49 GMT 9.5
That site is ok on the denser levels - aliens, stargates, war in the heavens. Their understanding of the Solar Logos is rather limited. There is a process that might be called materializing the spiritual. Spiritual principles are reflected into the lower levels of Existence and consciousnesses polarized in those lower levels mistake the reflections for the reality. It is better to consider the universe and solar systems as the temporary manifestation of vast beings. Periodically they go out of manifestation so that their universe or solar system ceases to exist - all matter and energy deleted. Then, if these great beings wish to experience more (to build a better body), they manifest a new system through which to experience matter and intelligent species before withdrawing for another inward cycle. These are better references www.light-weaver.com/LW-old/fire/fire1111.htmlwww.bailey.it/files/Initiation-Human-and-Solar.pdfwww.light-weaver.com/LW-old/fire/fire1055.html |
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