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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2010 11:28:01 GMT 9.5
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2010 12:09:08 GMT 9.5
sure new oil and gas r formed, but not nearly as fast as its taken out of the ground.. with the population and oil usage per human both on the increase, reaching max capacity is unavoidable.. the question is only when..
oil not organic? thats new to me..
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Post by LorrB on Aug 3, 2010 12:20:59 GMT 9.5
That is great news. Encouraging.
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Post by paul on Aug 3, 2010 12:31:35 GMT 9.5
oil not organic? thats new to me.. And that changes the whole debate. Hydrocarbons are not fossil fuels but natural products of on-going geological processes. It is a matter of knowing where those processes occur and how fast they operate. And of course we need to have some view of the role of hydrocarbons in planetary processes so that we do not disturb those unduly.
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Post by mgc on Aug 3, 2010 22:40:09 GMT 9.5
and just cause there is an "endless" supply (provided we dont use more than the growth), doesnt mean we should use it to further contaminate the air we breathe..
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 9:00:40 GMT 9.5
(a little silly aside ... and probably politically incorrect ... but ... has anyone other then me wondered whether the USA oil catastrophe is a little bit of karma? They want oil? they got oil.
That got me wondering about the UK as well... they wanted an empire and now the empire has come to the UK which is fast running out of space and resources)
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Post by coach on Aug 4, 2010 9:16:23 GMT 9.5
As an American, I can tell you that your generality doesn't apply to me and those I commune with.
Shall we now upon the door to other generalities of political incorrectness ;-)
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2010 9:37:18 GMT 9.5
There is an untold story with the BP well that is hinted at with this: "A fire aboard the Discoverer Enterprise drill ship this morning has suspended oil collection activities in the Gulf of Mexico, BP said this afternoon. The fire was discovered at about 9:30 a.m. and extinguished. BP said in a press release that it is believed that lightning caused the fire. " Since when do sailors not recognise lightning? Further the initial explosion in the rig was not explained. Also the rig sank - from my Google search this may be the only deep sea rig ever to have sunk unless in a storm or being towed. Here may be the reason www.commodities-now.com/news/power-and-energy/2502-arctic-border-deal-may-extend-norways-oil-boom.htmlAnd here is how: "The third leg of Russia’s triad of space weapons is the “COSMOSPHERES”. The first-generation Cosmospheres were weapons platforms that were ELECTRO-GRAVITIC (could hover against gravity), ATOMIC POWERED, horizontally positioned by rocket thrusters, somehow invisible to radar beyond about 40 miles (perhaps from a radar-absorbing coating), armed with CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM weapons (at least a hundred times less powerful than those in the Moon bases), equipped with “PSYCHO-ENERGETIC RANGE FINDING” (PRF) which tunes in to the actual ATOMIC SIGNATURE of a target or object and can NOT be jammed, and some of them were also armed with microwave BRAIN-SCRAMBLING equipment. In late 1977 and early 1978, there was a strange rash of giant AIR BOOMS along the east coast of the United States and elsewhere. These air booms were NEVER satisfactorily explained, by either the government, the scientific establishment, or the news media. They could NOT be positively identified with any particular Super Sonic Transport plane (SST) or other aircraft, and indeed they were MUCH LOUDER than aircraft sonic booms. The giant airbooms were actually caused by Russian Cosmospheres firing CHARGED- PARTICLE BEAMS down into the atmosphere in a DEFOCUSED MODE (spread out) for the purpose of announcing their presence to the WAR-MONGERS in the United States Pentagon, (2-9-78 WR). " A couple of years ago there were large booms off Southern Queensland over perhaps 200 km of coast. The explanation of military aircraft did not cover the extent or volume - nor one resident's complaint that the sound cracked a concrete slab. Note that brain scrambling might be useful against pilots of craft carrying the leadership of nations - e.g. Poland
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 10:13:03 GMT 9.5
oh dear .. make mental note not to travel on VIP flights. Wonder what the karma of that would be... don't want to think about it.
I remember the Russians using local 'beams' directed at the US Embassy in Moscow (from memory) some years back. Was considered a conspiracy theory when it first came out but was then proved to be true. Is the HAARP program something along these lines or something entirely different?
We do have that anomalous area in Western Australian too... where two commercial aircraft had their instruments go haywire and the aircraft dropped quite some way before control was regained. Lots of injury.
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2010 10:20:44 GMT 9.5
HAARP is a different program - and American.
The strange tale that thousands of US engineers could not get an O ring sorted on the space shuttle is perhaps a cover story for a Russian strike
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 10:24:54 GMT 9.5
As an American, I can tell you that your generality doesn't apply to me and those I commune with. Shall we now upon the door to other generalities of political incorrectness ;-) Hi Coach - Excellent news - and I am not surprised! Folk everywhere are for the most part good and reasonable folk. It is the leaders we put into power that can be the worry (or the people behind them). Bring back duelling I say... then let those that make the decision/s fight it out by themselves. (I come from a wild west town, that is my only excuse ) Ignorance is a potent tool which governments everywhere exploit. Our work in the second degree shows us how to counteract this. This isn't politics, it is just plain common sense. (PS... I am wondering what Australia's karma might be ... we have proved outselves to be good allies, I am rather hoping that we won't ever find ourselves in a position where we will find that we have good allies.)
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2010 10:31:02 GMT 9.5
Australian karma is still largely in the land - it still being largely alienated from/by humanity.
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 10:54:05 GMT 9.5
? is that good news or bad news?
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 10:57:25 GMT 9.5
HAARP is a different program - and American. sorry didn't make myself clear... do you think HAARP is researching/using similar technologies for similar reasons? It is reasonable to expect that if one powerful country has something then other powerful country would have it also.
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2010 11:04:11 GMT 9.5
My limited understanding of HAARP is that involves superheating part of the atmosphere at particular frequencies.
This is not the same as the Cosmosphere that seems to have developed from the "killer satellites" of the 1970s.
" "Now a new arms race in space: Soviet satellite killer," U.S. News & World Report, 83:28, November 14, 1977 "Soviets test another killer satellite: Cosmos 970," Aviation Weekly, 108:21, January 2, 1978 "Targeting a hunter-killer: anti-satellite interceptor (ASAT)," Time, 110:10, October 17, 1977 "Soviet killer satellites: U.S. ponders a response," D. Shapley, Science, 193:865-6, September 3, 1976 "Soviets test killer spacecraft," Aviation Weekly, 109:17, October 30, 1978 "
As it turns out the US still does not have an effective response as their launched vehicles get shot down before the vehicles can operate their weapons in self-defence
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 12:35:17 GMT 9.5
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Post by LorrB on Aug 4, 2010 13:31:17 GMT 9.5
Good people of the world unite! Ooops, we already have . Maybe Freemasonry, Rotarians, Lions, Red Cross, World Vision, etc could take over the world. It is only the formation of groups like these that convince me that we (the world) is moving forward. Which reminds me... I read that with the influence of Masons on both sides the casualties in the war between the US and UK were greatly reduced. True or false.
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Post by paul on Aug 4, 2010 14:03:29 GMT 9.5
it is clear that Western populations are generally in advance of the ethics and commitment of governments. For example, women have led the attack on the mafia.
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Post by paul on May 31, 2013 8:18:54 GMT 9.5
The standard theory of production of oil (biological matter buried - dinosaurs and swamps) seems not to be consistent with the following: "Asteroid impacts have produced prolific oil reservoirs in other parts of the world, including the Ames structure in Oklahoma and the Bay of Campeche in Mexico, which is thought to be related to the massive Chicxulub impact." www.energynewspremium.net/storyview.asp?storyid=798530081§ionsource=s0Now how does an asteroid impact generate oil?
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Post by LorrB on May 31, 2013 8:42:43 GMT 9.5
Pressurises rock.
Stone under pressure produces much of value:
Diamonds Oil Masters
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