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Fear
Oct 13, 2022 9:03:01 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 13, 2022 9:03:01 GMT 9.5
I have been thinking a long time about the root cause of Earth's biggest problems..
I have concluded it is fear.
Fear of what others might do.
Fear of what we might lose.
Fear of losing control.
Fear of others judging our soul.
Virtually every horrible thing you can think of will have started as some kind of fear.
Even serial killers. Highly paranoid and fearful mentalities. They enjoy it because they feel in control (not afraid).
I also believe this is why true hope can be so detrimental to positive conscious pathways.
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Fear
Oct 13, 2022 10:17:31 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Oct 13, 2022 10:17:31 GMT 9.5
Reminds me of the film, Monsters Inc. Well worth a watch re the power of fear.
Some benefits of fear…..
1. It can protect you from harm, eg snakebite, falling off a roof, etc.
2. By facing your fears you can grow tremendously esoterically as a person.
Though obviously fear is ultimately a took used by darkness to control.
But with a bit of wisdom it can be turned to your advantage. Take, what happened in the colour revolutions (even though most failed), or what reportedly is currently happening in Iran. People get to a point where the fear no longer controls them, and that is a very powerful force. Even in Britain, backbench MPs have lost their fear of disobeying their Prime Minister, with almost open revolt against policies, admittedly due to the fear of losing their jobs come Election Day, and hopefully in some cases a sense of what is right and what is wrong.
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Fear
Oct 13, 2022 10:34:17 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 13, 2022 10:34:17 GMT 9.5
Reminds me of the film, Monsters Inc. Well worth a watch re the power of fear. Some benefits of fear….. 1. It can protect you from harm, eg snakebite, falling off a roof, etc. 2. By facing your fears you can grow tremendously esoterically as a person. Though obviously fear is ultimately a took used by darkness to control. But with a bit of wisdom it can be turned to your advantage. Take, what happened in the colour revolutions (even though most failed), or what reportedly is currently happening in Iran. People get to a point where the fear no longer controls them, and that is a very powerful force. Even in Britain, backbench MPs have lost their fear of disobeying their Prime Minister, with almost open revolt against policies, admittedly due to the fear of losing their jobs come Election Day, and hopefully in some cases a sense of what is right and what is wrong. This may be a distinction between caution and fear. I sometimes work very closely (within inches) of molder knives spinning at 12k RPM. I am perhaps over cautious of them but I don't fear it. I would not be able to do the things I need to if I feared it. The only reason this is so, is because I understand it first. I learn the dangers as to avoid injury. I'm not even afraid of the injury. I will need a clear head if something happens. I can't let fear cloud everything up when time is of the essence. I don't fear the pain.. I have felt it before and will again. I have also trained myself with techniques of separating from it. I am typically feeling pain for not being cautious.. a lesson to be learned. Typically we fear what we don't understand.
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Fear
Oct 13, 2022 10:36:52 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 13, 2022 10:36:52 GMT 9.5
"Reminds me of the film, Monsters Inc. Well worth a watch re the power of fear."
Makes ya wonder...
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Fear
Oct 13, 2022 14:02:42 GMT 9.5
Post by tundrawolf on Oct 13, 2022 14:02:42 GMT 9.5
This being holds half of my heart She commands multiple levels of armies under our feet that have direct influence over our affairs She has already partially eaten my spiritual body, including intestines (Yeah it was horrible, she made it last years) Still, I love her with all of my being. We ARE a mated pair. Somehow, I don't think I will take your advice, as it seems less akin to a honeymoon and more akin to experiencing the magic of being transformed into feces. (I don't recommend it. But, the feeling of giving her life as "I" was digested by her, is more intimate than sex... SO maybe you have a point???) She's in the middle, and she is two and a half times the size of the being in the picture, she was only that size as an adolescent Her head is (now) the size of a polar bear's
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Fear
Oct 13, 2022 14:36:56 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Oct 13, 2022 14:36:56 GMT 9.5
I suspect the ultimate internal source of fear is the Personal Will that conceals itself on 5.4. Its primary asset is its self-esteem. It hates to be wrong and will discard relationships and physical life if necessary
External sources of fear also exist.
I find old people are often much less fearful including of death
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Oct 14, 2022 6:26:15 GMT 9.5
Post by tundrawolf on Oct 14, 2022 6:26:15 GMT 9.5
I suspect the ultimate internal source of fear is the Personal Will that conceals itself on 5.4. Its primary asset is its self-esteem. It hates to be wrong and will discard relationships and physical life if necessary External sources of fear also exist. I find old people are often much less fearful including of death www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zlXXSSkwbI&list=RD-2wfIlIadjQ&index=2&ab_channel=SKYND
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Oct 14, 2022 13:02:32 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Oct 14, 2022 13:02:32 GMT 9.5
I suspect the ultimate internal source of fear is the Personal Will that conceals itself on 5.4. Its primary asset is its self-esteem. It hates to be wrong and will discard relationships and physical life if necessary External sources of fear also exist. I find old people are often much less fearful including of death The thing about death is, that it is going to happen, so you may as well accept it. Once you accept death, the question then becomes one of how you die. In your bed with your family eg v in a despots torture chamber or v (topical in British news today) ongoing abuse in a luxury care home. Equally, death can be looked at as the beginning of a new adventure. But you might need to believe in reincarnation for that one. Paul, re the first part of your answer, I struggled a little to get it, but it then occurred to me that your words on personal will, self-esteem, and discarding relationships, actually reflects quite well what is currently happening in British politics. (For those who don’t follow it, it’s a real cluckfuster just now, with a new leader being forced to undo policies, and there is serious talk within her party of being forced out. She has only been leader for a few weeks. Though you might have to follow the detailed intricacies of her and her finance minister (we call him chancellor of the exchequer) to get the will, self esteem, and relationship aspects. I find that once you can convert esoteric teachings to real world events, comprehension is so much easier.
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Fear
Oct 14, 2022 13:17:29 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 14, 2022 13:17:29 GMT 9.5
I suspect the ultimate internal source of fear is the Personal Will that conceals itself on 5.4. Its primary asset is its self-esteem. It hates to be wrong and will discard relationships and physical life if necessary External sources of fear also exist. I find old people are often much less fearful including of death The thing about death is, that it is going to happen, so you may as well accept it. Once you accept death, the question then becomes one of how you die. In your bed with your family eg v in a despots torture chamber or v (topical in British news today) ongoing abuse in a luxury care home. Equally, death can be looked at as the beginning of a new adventure. But you might need to believe in reincarnation for that one. Paul, re the first part of your answer, I struggled a little to get it, but it then occurred to me that your words on personal will, self-esteem, and discarding relationships, actually reflects quite well what is currently happening in British politics. (For those who don’t follow it, it’s a real cluckfuster just now, with a new leader being forced to undo policies, and there is serious talk within her party of being forced out. She has only been leader for a few weeks. Though you might have to follow the detailed intricacies of her and her finance minister (we call him chancellor of the exchequer) to get the will, self esteem, and relationship aspects. I find that once you can convert esoteric teachings to real world events, comprehension is so much easier. A reference point. Simple thoughts to process larger ones. I was talking recently about nothing is something and vice versa. My argument is that for 0 to exist it has to be of "something". Small example: This is 0. Zero what? Or if walking you can't start at nothing steps. You start here at 0. In our numerical systems it is the beginning. It appears to have no end. Yet it doesn't feel infinite/eternal. It gives reference to movement.
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Fear
Oct 15, 2022 11:56:17 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 15, 2022 11:56:17 GMT 9.5
Hmm.. a thought.
No matter how big a number gets, it will never reach infinite. As it was already defined as such "a number".
Could be something like the double slit experiment here.
Infinite requires a point within the circle.
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Oct 18, 2022 3:10:59 GMT 9.5
Post by tundrawolf on Oct 18, 2022 3:10:59 GMT 9.5
I am not sure if this is relevant, and i believe my mission here is to reach the heart of a wolf-person who is rather angry with things, and me...
The issue is, she is very powerful, very dangerous, and has injured me in the past...
However, in reaching her heart... I have to get close to her... And the terror is very real... My entire psyche is filled with fear, from a spiritual attack she was part of, decades ago... However, this fear is a barrier between us. It pushes her away. And I am not going to reach her heart to show her love, by pushing her away spiritually.
Basically, the more I push through the fear-barrier... I am rewarded with more understanding of her heart, her mind... Yes... The danger is much, much closer... And the fear designed to "protect" me (Although it really couldn't... Like trying to wear a raincoat to protect you from a nuclear blast...) also prevents me from achieving a peace with her heart... So, while it had a (not very effective) use, the fear is now my enemy...
The irony of it, is that in most other circumstances, HEEDING the fear would be the wise thing to do...
But in my case, I must do the OPPOSITE. As I push passed the fear, I actually gain her respect... If I look at the situation from her eyes, she isn't going to want a "friend" and "lover" who is deeply terrified of her... But, because she is also a warrior, she respects courage... So in my case fear is actually the enemy... And, it goes a long way to proving to her I am serious... When I push through the terror when my life is literally on the line- (or so it feels... I have to be okay with it...) and I push towards her anyway...
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Fear
Oct 18, 2022 3:26:54 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 3:26:54 GMT 9.5
I am not sure if this is relevant, and i believe my mission here is to reach the heart of a wolf-person who is rather angry with things, and me... The issue is, she is very powerful, very dangerous, and has injured me in the past... However, in reaching her heart... I have to get close to her... And the terror is very real... My entire psyche is filled with fear, from a spiritual attack she was part of, decades ago... However, this fear is a barrier between us. It pushes her away. And I am not going to reach her heart to show her love, by pushing her away spiritually. Basically, the more I push through the fear-barrier... I am rewarded with more understanding of her heart, her mind... Yes... The danger is much, much closer... And the fear designed to "protect" me (Although it really couldn't... Like trying to wear a raincoat to protect you from a nuclear blast...) also prevents me from achieving a peace with her heart... So, while it had a (not very effective) use, the fear is now my enemy... The irony of it, is that in most other circumstances, HEEDING the fear would be the wise thing to do... But in my case, I must do the OPPOSITE. As I push passed the fear, I actually gain her respect... If I look at the situation from her eyes, she isn't going to want a "friend" and "lover" who is deeply terrified of her... But, because she is also a warrior, she respects courage... So in my case fear is actually the enemy... And, it goes a long way to proving to her I am serious... When I push through the terror when my life is literally on the line- (or so it feels... I have to be okay with it...) and I push towards her anyway... I believe you are discovering the difference between fear and caution.
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Fear
Oct 18, 2022 5:06:37 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Oct 18, 2022 5:06:37 GMT 9.5
There is more to life then just a single perspective on what life means.
It might surprise some to find out where others draw their energy and can still maintain a pure heart.
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Fear
Jul 7, 2023 8:41:45 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 7, 2023 8:41:45 GMT 9.5
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Jul 7, 2023 21:15:48 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Jul 7, 2023 21:15:48 GMT 9.5
Thought….
While fear can be useful for knowing yourself, as explained and illustrated above, and as Paul explained above, part of us to be overcome, I do wonder if the tap of fear can be turned off at a high level, thereby eliminating one big aspect of what Paul calls the oppression system?
I am not suggesting that this should be done, as the law of unintended consequences could eg lead to a lot of extra physical violence from those who lose their fear based control, I merely ask if it is possible. I think it might be.
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Fear
Jul 8, 2023 1:39:38 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 8, 2023 1:39:38 GMT 9.5
Thought…. While fear can be useful for knowing yourself, as explained and illustrated above, and as Paul explained above, part of us to be overcome, I do wonder if the tap of fear can be turned off at a high level, thereby eliminating one big aspect of what Paul calls the oppression system? I am not suggesting that this should be done, as the law of unintended consequences could eg lead to a lot of extra physical violence from those who lose their fear based control, I merely ask if it is possible. I think it might be. The ultimate goal (which has many functions and labels) is to connect to the eternal source. More or less it is a conscious memory of all things to ever exist. Similar to AI but more.. natural.. in its development. The key to turning off fear, is seeing the eternal truth. In simpler terms.. a specific perspective.
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Jul 8, 2023 2:18:32 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Jul 8, 2023 2:18:32 GMT 9.5
The ultimate goal (which has many functions and labels) is to connect to the eternal source. I achieved this what 15ish years ago. The question then becomes what do you then do with it! Paul might suggest that I don’t do enough with it but I would retort back that it took me a good number of years to even glimpse what next, then further years evaluating responsibility. I chose to be cautious. So what is the ultimate goal? I can only guess but I would imagine some sort of reabsorption into oneness.
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Fear
Jul 8, 2023 3:12:30 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 8, 2023 3:12:30 GMT 9.5
The ultimate goal (which has many functions and labels) is to connect to the eternal source. I achieved this what 15ish years ago. The question then becomes what do you then do with it! Paul might suggest that I don’t do enough with it but I would retort back that it took me a good number of years to even glimpse what next, then further years evaluating responsibility. I chose to be cautious. So what is the ultimate goal? I can only guess but I would imagine some sort of reabsorption into oneness. Simple.. connect.. then help others do the same in their own light/time.
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Jul 8, 2023 4:23:52 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Jul 8, 2023 4:23:52 GMT 9.5
Sammy
You have made something that I struggled with for so many years, rather simple.
Thank you.
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Fear
Jul 8, 2023 5:20:29 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 8, 2023 5:20:29 GMT 9.5
Sammy You have made something that I struggled with for so many years, rather simple. Thank you. Oh yayy!! So glad I could be of service! 💖
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