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Jun 15, 2021 5:51:03 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jun 15, 2021 5:51:03 GMT 9.5
My theories have largely been described using black and white or light and shadow. I always felt like color has a place in the field but I could never see what or why. I made a few diagrams with the color wheel at least to show a spectrum involvement, but what color to what sign? How do you match a 3 point system to a 4 point system?
I had always put color as the full reality, but again no way how this connected. I saw today how this interacts I think. Color is how we use the blueprint of existence. As all things fit into this design (same design, different ends).. how it is used will depend on the individuals perspective. In other words WE add the color while living it out.
A side note from this perspective, existence is not reality until it has come to life (added color).
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Jun 15, 2021 6:18:27 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jun 15, 2021 6:18:27 GMT 9.5
In Goethe's theory of color there are two rainbows: - darkness overcoming light with a green center (3 + 3 colors overlapping to form the 7th - green) - light overcoming darkness with a peach blossom center (2 + 2 colors overlapping to form the 5th - peach blossom) Goethe said that his book on color was like the opening moves of a chess game. www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/50572This one is easier www.amazon.com.au/Goethes-Theory-Colour-Maria-Schindler/dp/0850610052/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&keywords=goethe%27s+theory+of+colour&qid=1623709458&s=books&sr=1-18Rudolf Steiner used Goethe's theory. Here is a Steiner color wheel of the 7+5 colors The red sky of dawn (light overcoming darkness) differs from the red sky of dusk (darkness overcoming light) Each rainbow is in two pieces that when they get close enough blend at the edge to form the central color The two parts are often visible in the sky as half rainbow reflections either side of the full rainbow. They are hard to photograph but easy to see with the eye. This photo only has one half. The reflections are too narrow to be the full rainbow
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Jun 15, 2021 13:21:50 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jun 15, 2021 13:21:50 GMT 9.5
The wheel does seem to fit the system. Thanks paul!
I hadn't considered the rainbow spectrum as an option. It would also make more sense as a visualized spectrum.
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Jul 6, 2021 10:28:49 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jul 6, 2021 10:28:49 GMT 9.5
Still having issues with color interactions in this field... stationary or rotating? I'm still not sure color can occur at basic existence. More like a one from the other type of system. I think color would happen after this system and evolve into something more like the Kundalini. A system for after existing occurs. I think if I were to add it, this would be my placement (color wheel matching polarity wheel).
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Jul 6, 2021 11:19:15 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jul 6, 2021 11:19:15 GMT 9.5
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Jul 6, 2021 11:21:18 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 6, 2021 11:21:18 GMT 9.5
>I'm still not sure color can occur at basic existence. What of those humans that hear color and see sound? Will they only hear black and white colors? medium.com/predict/synesthesia-why-some-people-can-see-sound-or-hear-color-c6f5b53cd5c2When I was first shown rising on the planes, I was shown a different color and sound attached to each subplane. Left to myself, I mainly have a sense of touch for the subplanes and I forget what the colors and sounds were so long ago It seems to me that color is intrinsic in the Sphere of Existence. It is not so obvious in the Sphere of Beingness a406.proboards.com/thread/1531/sphere-beingnessColor is intrinsic to the Sphere of Existence because it is a form of harmonics and harmonics is how Existence manifests.
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Jul 6, 2021 11:42:30 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jul 6, 2021 11:42:30 GMT 9.5
>I'm still not sure color can occur at basic existence. What of those humans that hear color and see sound? Will they only hear black and white colors? medium.com/predict/synesthesia-why-some-people-can-see-sound-or-hear-color-c6f5b53cd5c2When I was first shown rising on the planes, I was shown a different color and sound attached to each subplane. Left to myself, I mainly have a sense of touch for the subplanes and I forget what the colors and sounds were so long ago It seems to me that color is intrinsic in the Sphere of Existence. It is not so obvious in the Sphere of Beingness a406.proboards.com/thread/1531/sphere-beingnessColor is intrinsic to the Sphere of Existence because it is a form of harmonics and harmonics is how Existence manifests. Well the concept holding me up is color would be added after creation. For instance hearing or seeing would mean you exist already to do so. This would be a template for existence, prior to sensory values. In this respect light and dark could be described more like light/heat/energy dark/cold/mass. A location placing more then a shading (outside of color). Light and dark transfer this thought mostly except for the easy link to color perspectives.
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Jul 6, 2021 11:45:48 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jul 6, 2021 11:45:48 GMT 9.5
>I'm still not sure color can occur at basic existence. What of those humans that hear color and see sound? Will they only hear black and white colors? medium.com/predict/synesthesia-why-some-people-can-see-sound-or-hear-color-c6f5b53cd5c2When I was first shown rising on the planes, I was shown a different color and sound attached to each subplane. Left to myself, I mainly have a sense of touch for the subplanes and I forget what the colors and sounds were so long ago It seems to me that color is intrinsic in the Sphere of Existence. It is not so obvious in the Sphere of Beingness a406.proboards.com/thread/1531/sphere-beingnessColor is intrinsic to the Sphere of Existence because it is a form of harmonics and harmonics is how Existence manifests. I will look more into the two spheres for any new insights. Thanks paul!
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Jul 6, 2021 12:07:28 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 6, 2021 12:07:28 GMT 9.5
>concept holding me up is color would be added after creation. For instance hearing or seeing would mean you exist already to do so. Consider the 5 Electricities. Are their harmonics the first intimation of color? a406.proboards.com/thread/1859/electricities-planes
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Jul 6, 2021 14:08:45 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 6, 2021 14:08:45 GMT 9.5
"On the fourth plane this electrical force shows itself as colour. In these four we have the fundamental concepts of all manifestation; all four have an electrical dynamic origin; all are basically a differentiation or effect of impulse, emanating from the cosmic mental plane and taking form (with intelligent purpose in view) on the cosmic physical. " Treatise on Cosmic Fire p169 www.bailey.it/files/Treatise-on-Cosmic-Fire.pdfIt seems that ultimately all manifested Existence must go with the (electric) flow of Intent
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Jul 6, 2021 22:04:54 GMT 9.5
Post by sammy on Jul 6, 2021 22:04:54 GMT 9.5
"On the fourth plane this electrical force shows itself as colour. In these four we have the fundamental concepts of all manifestation; all four have an electrical dynamic origin; all are basically a differentiation or effect of impulse, emanating from the cosmic mental plane and taking form (with intelligent purpose in view) on the cosmic physical. " Treatise on Cosmic Fire p169 www.bailey.it/files/Treatise-on-Cosmic-Fire.pdfIt seems that ultimately all manifested Existence must go with the (electric) flow of Intent This description seems to fit quite well! Nice find Paul! Thanks for adding! I will be reading this more in depth later today.
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Jul 7, 2021 1:42:02 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 7, 2021 1:42:02 GMT 9.5
"First, to provide a compact and skeleton outline of a scheme of cosmology, philosophy, and psychology which may perhaps be employed for a generation as a reference and a textbook, and may serve as a scaffolding upon which more detailed instruction may later be built, as the great tide of evolutionary teaching flows on."
This is basically how I describe my own work. The process undergone with this body of work mirrors my own. I too also know I will not complete the thought. It will grow well past my limits.
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Jul 7, 2021 6:11:27 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 7, 2021 6:11:27 GMT 9.5
When going into logos, this describes sets of 3 point systems in a combined structure. This was key for a 3D shape of -o+ and a 2D format doesn't fill in all the gaps (psychology, philosophy, understanding).
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Jul 7, 2021 10:33:04 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 7, 2021 10:33:04 GMT 9.5
It took me a long time to grapple with a neutral point as having an identity beyond being where two other energies (e.g. light/dark) are equal.
When the neutral point is not in the middle of a spectrum, but quite separate, there is a triangle, a tripod, and stability is possible.
So in a planet where polarity is all the rage (e.g. politics, gender, climate), from where does the neutral point arise?
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Jul 7, 2021 11:52:45 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 7, 2021 11:52:45 GMT 9.5
Neutral as planetary would be the point of axis. Like a zero point, or the point of no movement within the movement. Also the pathway of creation inflow and outflow of poles. For the pic used on this thread, it would be the very center of the cross section. Also if used as the axis on 3D model, you can observe every other polarity section to its entirety (full orange slice). Like in the video I hate to watch cause I can't stand my voice.. haha. youtu.be/vwbe7zoNfcAAn axis of balance would be my suggestion anyway.
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Jul 7, 2021 11:55:17 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 7, 2021 11:55:17 GMT 9.5
It took me a long time to grapple with a neutral point as having an identity beyond being where two other energies (e.g. light/dark) are equal. I did for a long time too..
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Jul 7, 2021 12:05:31 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 7, 2021 12:05:31 GMT 9.5
>I hate to watch cause I can't stand my voice. The resonance of the voice inside the speaker's head differs markedly from the experience of the listener. Better just to talk to yourself! >Neutral as planetary would be the point of axis. I don't find that entirely convincing. For example a spinning planet is also moving across space - so that its axis moves under varying celestial influences. Even if a non-spinning planet with no axis (e.g. our moon) were independent of a solar system, it would still have a spiral motion represented in 2D as a de Broglie wavelength. byjus.com/jee/de-broglie-equation/If a planet needs a neutral point for inherent stability, I doubt that it is a physical point as that too would have to move. Thus I deduce the neutral point exists on a higher plane.
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Jul 7, 2021 12:27:18 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 7, 2021 12:27:18 GMT 9.5
It is an interesting question as to the source of stability for any physical object.
With quantum mechanics we know that atoms are almost entirely empty space, and yet a collection of largely empty space can form a mountain that lasts a billion years.
How does the largely empty space know how to do that? Surely a passing gravity wave or solar flash or nuclear weapon or timeline interference could reset the system.
What makes the empty atoms of an aircraft remain in such accurate forms?
Is that the nature of the neutral point - that it establishes a sub-structure for forms including physical?
Is it the neutral point that makes a planet spherical, a solar system a flat ellipse and a galaxy a spiral?
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Jul 7, 2021 14:07:40 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on Jul 7, 2021 14:07:40 GMT 9.5
In response to both posts paul, your questions are what lead me to the answer. The biggest question being what ties them together (the larger field). Yet still to understand this larger field you must also understand the previous individual aspects (questions) leading to it for any bearings.
The common theme is perspective...
From the perspective of the planet it is pole axis.
From the perspective of the solar system it would be the sun.
From the perspective of the galaxy is Sagittarius A.
The mind, body, heart, spirit.. these things are harder to see as we have to feel them and not from another for any true results (individual belief systems). The unmoving solid state of this? Spirit perhaps (inflow/outflow labeled eternal)?
Consciousness (people can lose consciousness)? Heart (heart can blind the mind)? Body (one can live conscious and unable to move)? Mind (mind can neglect the heart and spirit)?
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Jul 7, 2021 14:17:57 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Jul 7, 2021 14:17:57 GMT 9.5
I am not sure that the perspective is broad enough. Consider: "According to theosophy, our earth globe is one of twelve globes that make up the earth planetary chain. These twelve interlocking spheres are composed of different grades of consciousness-substance, but interpenetrate to some degree and form a unitary group. Our own globe (globe D) is the most material globe, and exists on the lowest of the seven planes of our hierarchy. Each globe exists on seven subplanes, from material to spiritual (these being relative terms). The higher, nonphysical realms of our own globe, along with all the higher globes of the earth-chain are beyond the range of our physical senses." davidpratt.info/evo.htmWhere would the neutral points be situated?
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