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Post by paul on May 21, 2021 9:43:43 GMT 9.5
Elsewhere I was asked some questions that perhaps may be of interest to this forum. I do not claim any excellence for my answers but they may prompt some deeper thought. >Are humans intolerant? Standard humans defend their self-esteem by rejecting ideas contrary to their own. Not to do so would be to admit incompetency/inferiority. Some posters here are not human in origin - do not have souls formed as part of a human swarm. Nevertheless they have the typical human persona - complete with personal will running defence systems. Still, most beings posted in to assist the human race are able to rise above defence systems directed at them. >if light, light into matter, sound waves and energy work off mathematical geometric pattern (as seen in mandalas) how could consciousness outside of matter say time and math does not apply? Obviously spirit, energy and matter are all part of the one spectrum so that the classification is based on where one stands. Since it is all one spectrum, intelligence exists at all points. What we call consciousness is localised in specific spirit-matter formations. Awareness has a much broader scope. Time seems to exist in tubes called time-lines or parallel existences. The tube structure enables parallel processing/experiments/experiences with little cross-contamination. a406.proboards.com/thread/792/existing-on-multiple-time-paths?page=3Math is a rational construct, most useful in many ways. Existence however is alive and operates by relationship. We may discover mathematical patterns, but ultimately, as Pythagoras told us, the numbers are alive. Numbers form their own relationships. I discovered that many years ago, building mathematical models of the state economy. One fellow had put in an equation with monthly (lunar) numbers on one side and quarterly (solar) numbers on the other. The gestalt of the economy was pained by the mathematical insult, quite unhappy, and made me uncomfortable until the equation was fixed. >The information passed down in evolved matter over generations is a universe of knowledge. Better perhaps to consider that information is shorthand for the state of having some energy/intelligence come into the form and that knowledge is shorthand for a state of knowing. Both require an intelligent entity and do not have independent existence. Thus data is not information until it is used to inform a decision. Knowing cannot exist without a knower. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)Certainly an entity with sensitive awareness may learn directly from the elementals of dense objects. Most humans however have yet to control the emotional and mental processes and therefore the internal noise greatly limits the learning. I knew a blacksmith who said it was 14 years before he had a good feel for the materials. I have just found a dentist that is liked by the dental materials. He was trained earlier as an engineer and that may have helped.
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Post by sammy on May 22, 2021 5:59:34 GMT 9.5
> Revelation 22:11 The one being unrighteous, let him be unrighteous still; and he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; and he who is righteous, let him practice righteousness still Said another way of why should i care more about their problems than they apparently do ! ? Luke 23:34: Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” To be a shepherd instead of a wolf or sheep.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2021 15:56:05 GMT 9.5
> Said another way of why should i care more about their problems than they apparently do ! ?
Better to leave them in peace rather than berate them publicly for their lack of understanding. Only God knows their true suffering.
If you have explained to them why you no longer wish to keep their company, is there anything more to do? Other than express your displeasure to an authority perhaps.
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Post by paul on May 22, 2021 16:25:10 GMT 9.5
There are various categories of human that do not wish to know any more - at least while you are speaking to them.
- Some are subject to spiritual oppression and are punished etherically (painfully) if they listen
- Some carry trauma from the Holy Inquistion etc and have programmed themselves not to listen
- Some are subject to their Personal Will, and therefore unwilling to admit any inadequacy of beliefs
- Some barely operate at mental levels and are unable to comprehend subtle constructs
- Some have fragmented energy fields and cannot concentrate
- Etc
For myself I look to see if they are posted to the planet to assist. If so, I give them another chance.
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Post by theancienthuman on May 22, 2021 17:04:13 GMT 9.5
I have read your comments in this thread. Perhaps you have not been here long enough to understand the color of the human heart. Your judgment seems to be from a politician point of view which do not represent the human race but rather self interest. Your statements seem to be targeted toward the sheep and, that is not the majority. This is just a view from below to above.
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Post by theancienthuman on May 23, 2021 0:33:23 GMT 9.5
foxfires I have nothing to share but heart and nothing to shine but light. I do not care the path you walk, I walk here. I do not care about your town, just in rebuilding mankind's ancient city. Ancient cities is where all walked at the same time and from your comments I see why there are cloaks. A wolf beats entities into categories they do not belong such as the staff your swinging. I do not follow or lead nor do I have greed, I walk in his footsteps. Dividing yourself from humans under the premise of intellect is weakness.
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Post by paul on May 23, 2021 9:00:01 GMT 9.5
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Post by sammy on May 23, 2021 15:49:07 GMT 9.5
You do not know my path because you do not walk it. You do not know my potential because you do not posses my own. You do not know who I am because you do not know how to see me. I fear all that I have left to do is shake the dust off my feet... Luke 23:34: Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” To be a shepherd instead of a wolf or sheep. So after the hey foxfires You deserve to have you and your town you are in deserve WORSE Than Soddom and Ghamora treatment from G~d conversation to get me involved Does seem like an what would such Horrible future forcacast even desire more conversation Like the die got worst part of hell with your entire town Be enough shared "go to hell alone about covers you wishes for me Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; About all im allowed to do is share an got to heaven remark ~ here I pass no judgment on you fox. I care for your well-being. You asked a question and I answered it with your preferred method of communication. Perhaps if we can learn anything here it's that if you let scripture speak for you.. it leaves your own words out of place.
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Post by paul on May 23, 2021 16:17:19 GMT 9.5
We all have our own preferred/inherited belief and cultural systems.
They provide useful rules of thumb, but often experience is the best teacher.
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Post by theancienthuman on May 24, 2021 13:40:27 GMT 9.5
Paul, I am talking much earlier, 40,000 BC to 18,000 BC Humans an extraterrestrials were in a Law of One, my debate is, who sunk the continent?
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Post by theancienthuman on May 24, 2021 13:41:15 GMT 9.5
> I pass no judgment on you fox. I care for your well-being. You asked a question and I answered it with your preferred method of communication. > Perhaps if we can learn anything here it's that if you let scripture speak for you.. it leaves your own words out of place. > I answered it with your preferred method of communication.< again seriously seems an need to assess and describe what uve observed to me and other readers > Perhaps if we can learn anything here it's that if you let scripture speak for you.. it leaves your own words out of place. Again are you the teachers aid or is this the entire Howard Cosell - Wikipedia Howard Cosell - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Howard_Cosell Great book here View AttachmentHere is what Deepak Shares View AttachmentReally cool screen background View AttachmentHope ur off to heaven Cheers & im off to the isle of the Dammed Job 40:40:3 Then Job answered the LORD, and said, 40:4 Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. foxfires, I will try this another way, I love you.
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Post by paul on May 24, 2021 15:25:43 GMT 9.5
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Post by theancienthuman on May 24, 2021 21:43:36 GMT 9.5
The problem I see, human and other only see A.D. and have not moved beyond their past. Look at the world B.C., you can not be happy with it. You have to know the recent sighting are not coincidental. Is there anyone here B.C.?
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Post by sc on May 24, 2021 22:56:59 GMT 9.5
Elsewhere I was asked some questions that perhaps may be of interest to this forum. I do not claim any excellence for my answers but they may prompt some deeper thought. >Are humans intolerant? Standard humans defend their self-esteem by rejecting ideas contrary to their own. Not to do so would be to admit incompetency/inferiority. Some posters here are not human in origin - do not have souls formed as part of a human swarm. Nevertheless they have the typical human persona - complete with personal will running defence systems. Still, most beings posted in to assist the human race are able to rise above defence systems directed at them. >if light, light into matter, sound waves and energy work off mathematical geometric pattern (as seen in mandalas) how could consciousness outside of matter say time and math does not apply? Obviously spirit, energy and matter are all part of the one spectrum so that the classification is based on where one stands. Since it is all one spectrum, intelligence exists at all points. What we call consciousness is localised in specific spirit-matter formations. Awareness has a much broader scope. Time seems to exist in tubes called time-lines or parallel existences. The tube structure enables parallel processing/experiments/experiences with little cross-contamination. a406.proboards.com/thread/792/existing-on-multiple-time-paths?page=3Math is a rational construct, most useful in many ways. Existence however is alive and operates by relationship. We may discover mathematical patterns, but ultimately, as Pythagoras told us, the numbers are alive. Numbers form their own relationships. I discovered that many years ago, building mathematical models of the state economy. One fellow had put in an equation with monthly (lunar) numbers on one side and quarterly (solar) numbers on the other. The gestalt of the economy was pained by the mathematical insult, quite unhappy, and made me uncomfortable until the equation was fixed. >The information passed down in evolved matter over generations is a universe of knowledge. Better perhaps to consider that information is shorthand for the state of having some energy/intelligence come into the form and that knowledge is shorthand for a state of knowing. Both require an intelligent entity and do not have independent existence. Thus data is not information until it is used to inform a decision. Knowing cannot exist without a knower. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)Certainly an entity with sensitive awareness may learn directly from the elementals of dense objects. Most humans however have yet to control the emotional and mental processes and therefore the internal noise greatly limits the learning. I knew a blacksmith who said it was 14 years before he had a good feel for the materials. I have just found a dentist that is liked by the dental materials. He was trained earlier as an engineer and that may have helped. It is an excellent insight you had to your receive question and promotes great in depth thought, on a topic that over the ages has she'd little light, as it has multiple layers. I have put years into my project and of study of astro physics. You mention Math, time, awareness and consciousness. All can be summed up in Einsteins works. I view this subjects topics like the following. Awareness is separate from consciousness due to awareness being direct and akin to environment as all things have a degree of awareness though are not self aware. As awareness of environment seems more linked to survival and needs linked to survival. Just like we become aware of being hurt or hungry. And that for consciousness is being conscious to our consciousness, meaning that we think or ponder on the thoughts that we have and have become aware of from either within from the "I" in us or the "me". Is self awareness. And due to our ability to become aware of our self and aware of our sub conscious means that we have the ability to extend our awareness in and onto various plains of consciousness. Many things that we sense makes us react to our environment and our mind is our primary sense organ which we interpret all of our other senses with. To which we then act upon or verbally Interpret. Yet we question our own senses, to then judge accordingly for a desired outcome. The correctness of our judgement that led to action, Determines the out come, which teaches us the lessons, gives rewards or punishes based on choice, dictated by our environment determined by the strength of will, knowledge, wisdom or logic. Math is involved and connected with all of this. Think of it in the scenario of a football player. Each action on the field is geometrically calculated to judge where the ball is going or going to be. This is done instinctively, yet critically by awareness to the fields environment and the conscious choice to carry out ones action based on their own judgement, knowledge of the game and wisdom gained by their experiences of many games played. All leads to and based on the outcome of their action, determines the winner which is the lessons, rewards or punsiments, which in this scenario is either winning, losing or getting hurt. As for time Im not sure by what you mean by tubular. I view time as fixed and we exist in time and move through time from one moment and conscious event to the next. So I have this question in me regarding time. To explain my logic. That is for of the living marital things including us. We have a life cycle, the sun has a cycle, the moon, sessions, day and night and so on all have a measurement of length in time but are not time and we are not time it's self. We exist in time within cycles within cycles and so on. As all things have being or existence based on light energy based on the plane of existence in which they dwell or ability to transcend based and the light energy which is also vibration. And then so, in between celestial bodies where light or life force does not exist. More so put where cycles do not exist, though we are all interconnected by the eb and flow and the push and pull of these bodies as we move through the greater cycles of the creators ALL time of fixation. Do cycles that we give time or that we measure time from and calculate from it and apply to these various cycles that we observe and that we become aware of, exist outside of time it's self. I say no. But this being said we can exist outside of our timed cycle because we have our light being or force which is eternal as many and my self has travelled in spirit and consciousness outside of this solar system. Therefore and I have shed some light on my own questions here. Is that material and the immaterial are bound to time. One being bound to the cycles in time and the other being bound to time outside of cycles. Overall I would say yes time cycles have a limit and because all cycles are interconnected there must be a boundary. Because we know space is expanding so the question is not that time has a limit but if planets and cycles come to a point in their entirety which is a limit. where nothing has been created yet by the creator in that point off or position in the fixation of time which is boundless because nothing is in a state of fixation within time or at rest though progression is true state of the ALL. These are my views.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 1:56:47 GMT 9.5
>As for time Im not sure by what you mean by tubular. I view time as fixed and we exist in time and move through time from one moment and conscious event to the next.
Perhaps they are the same thing. Might just depend on your frame of reference.
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Post by paul on May 25, 2021 6:04:10 GMT 9.5
Here is my earlier observation about the tubular nature of timelines I was out looking at the galaxy and several beings were brought to me. It seems they wanted to watch me. The type (nature kingdom) of 3 them I could recognize but the 4th was strange and I was told the entity was of a kingdom that I had not seen before. So I paid attention and after a time got the idea that his work was in managing timelines. If timelines exist then it is obvious that they need managing - to make sure data and beings pass when required and that timelines do not get out of sync. He is quite enthusiastic as I look at him now - bouncing up and down on a timeline as if it were a trampoline. But I still do not know how he does his work so will have to observe closely. As far as I can see, timelines exist to limit the experiences of the confined intelligences so that other managed existence streams do not overlap in an uncontrolled manner. Thus the timelines appear to me as tubes carrying time currents with embedded intelligences. The tubes emanate from a large entity. Some of the tubes have holes made by humans and others. The time entity objects to most of the holes but I do not see his repairing them. Repairs seem to require action on the Cosmic Astral Plane. The 7 planes in which humanity exists are the sub-planes of the Cosmic Physical Plane. It looks like the entity managing/emanating the time lines does that for this spiral arm of the galaxy. Each arm seems to have its own time line entity and the lines seem to wind around those of other entities with slight porosity at the contact points. The galactic entity overseeing all of this does not encourage my inquiries. Currently I am trying to get a clear sense of the awareness of entities that exist outside of time. They obviously experience change in some way but presumably by observing from outside their existence process thereby experiencing youth, maturity and transition all at once. Then time lines may be constructed for entities to give boundaries to experience and thereby induce managed learning processes with planned objectives. Here is a video about "the timeline war". It seems that there is a group that repairs damage to local timelines www.cosmicnews.org/2019/05/10/inner-earth-beings-timeline-war-corey-goode-edge-of-wonder/
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Post by sammy on May 25, 2021 7:18:19 GMT 9.5
Elsewhere I was asked some questions that perhaps may be of interest to this forum. I do not claim any excellence for my answers but they may prompt some deeper thought. >Are humans intolerant? Standard humans defend their self-esteem by rejecting ideas contrary to their own. Not to do so would be to admit incompetency/inferiority. Some posters here are not human in origin - do not have souls formed as part of a human swarm. Nevertheless they have the typical human persona - complete with personal will running defence systems. Still, most beings posted in to assist the human race are able to rise above defence systems directed at them. >if light, light into matter, sound waves and energy work off mathematical geometric pattern (as seen in mandalas) how could consciousness outside of matter say time and math does not apply? Obviously spirit, energy and matter are all part of the one spectrum so that the classification is based on where one stands. Since it is all one spectrum, intelligence exists at all points. What we call consciousness is localised in specific spirit-matter formations. Awareness has a much broader scope. Time seems to exist in tubes called time-lines or parallel existences. The tube structure enables parallel processing/experiments/experiences with little cross-contamination. a406.proboards.com/thread/792/existing-on-multiple-time-paths?page=3Math is a rational construct, most useful in many ways. Existence however is alive and operates by relationship. We may discover mathematical patterns, but ultimately, as Pythagoras told us, the numbers are alive. Numbers form their own relationships. I discovered that many years ago, building mathematical models of the state economy. One fellow had put in an equation with monthly (lunar) numbers on one side and quarterly (solar) numbers on the other. The gestalt of the economy was pained by the mathematical insult, quite unhappy, and made me uncomfortable until the equation was fixed. >The information passed down in evolved matter over generations is a universe of knowledge. Better perhaps to consider that information is shorthand for the state of having some energy/intelligence come into the form and that knowledge is shorthand for a state of knowing. Both require an intelligent entity and do not have independent existence. Thus data is not information until it is used to inform a decision. Knowing cannot exist without a knower. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)Certainly an entity with sensitive awareness may learn directly from the elementals of dense objects. Most humans however have yet to control the emotional and mental processes and therefore the internal noise greatly limits the learning. I knew a blacksmith who said it was 14 years before he had a good feel for the materials. I have just found a dentist that is liked by the dental materials. He was trained earlier as an engineer and that may have helped. It is an excellent insight you had to your receive question and promotes great in depth thought, on a topic that over the ages has she'd little light, as it has multiple layers. I have put years into my project and of study of astro physics. You mention Math, time, awareness and consciousness. All can be summed up in Einsteins works. I view this subjects topics like the following. Awareness is separate from consciousness due to awareness being direct and akin to environment as all things have a degree of awareness though are not self aware. As awareness of environment seems more linked to survival and needs linked to survival. Just like we become aware of being hurt or hungry. And that for consciousness is being conscious to our consciousness, meaning that we think or ponder on the thoughts that we have and have become aware of from either within from the "I" in us or the "me". Is self awareness. And due to our ability to become aware of our self and aware of our sub conscious means that we have the ability to extend our awareness in and onto various plains of consciousness. Many things that we sense makes us react to our environment and our mind is our primary sense organ which we interpret all of our other senses with. To which we then act upon or verbally Interpret. Yet we question our own senses, to then judge accordingly for a desired outcome. The correctness of our judgement that led to action, Determines the out come, which teaches us the lessons, gives rewards or punishes based on choice, dictated by our environment determined by the strength of will, knowledge, wisdom or logic. Math is involved and connected with all of this. Think of it in the scenario of a football player. Each action on the field is geometrically calculated to judge where the ball is going or going to be. This is done instinctively, yet critically by awareness to the fields environment and the conscious choice to carry out ones action based on their own judgement, knowledge of the game and wisdom gained by their experiences of many games played. All leads to and based on the outcome of their action, determines the winner which is the lessons, rewards or punsiments, which in this scenario is either winning, losing or getting hurt. As for time Im not sure by what you mean by tubular. I view time as fixed and we exist in time and move through time from one moment and conscious event to the next. So I have this question in me regarding time. To explain my logic. That is for of the living marital things including us. We have a life cycle, the sun has a cycle, the moon, sessions, day and night and so on all have a measurement of length in time but are not time and we are not time it's self. We exist in time within cycles within cycles and so on. As all things have being or existence based on light energy based on the plane of existence in which they dwell or ability to transcend based and the light energy which is also vibration. And then so, in between celestial bodies where light or life force does not exist. More so put where cycles do not exist, though we are all interconnected by the eb and flow and the push and pull of these bodies as we move through the greater cycles of the creators ALL time of fixation. Do cycles that we give time or that we measure time from and calculate from it and apply to these various cycles that we observe and that we become aware of, exist outside of time it's self. I say no. But this being said we can exist outside of our timed cycle because we have our light being or force which is eternal as many and my self has travelled in spirit and consciousness outside of this solar system. Therefore and I have shed some light on my own questions here. Is that material and the immaterial are bound to time. One being bound to the cycles in time and the other being bound to time outside of cycles. Overall I would say yes time cycles have a limit and because all cycles are interconnected there must be a boundary. Because we know space is expanding so the question is not that time has a limit but if planets and cycles come to a point in their entirety which is a limit. where nothing has been created yet by the creator in that point off or position in the fixation of time which is boundless because nothing is in a state of fixation within time or at rest though progression is true state of the ALL. These are my views. I too followed these avenues of thought... well comprised IMO, great job! Time got tricky for me too.. the concept seemed to fit and not fit.. I couldnt quite specify one from the other. I started to try to see how time interacts with thought. It seems to me time is only because of memory. So time is not time but the memory of that time, in the same respect.. ALL things can be reduced to memory. Sticking with just time here though.. time cycles because memory cycles. "That happened before, I remember" same memory access but with new time stamp "happened again".
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Post by sammy on May 25, 2021 8:29:23 GMT 9.5
Some more on my process of this.
When I'm pursuing possibilities I will test it against known oddities and variables of the subject.. a kind of "how well does it hold up" tests.
It has been observed when focused on fast moving objects it can seem like time slows down, also times when not focusing it can "fly" by.
We are more or less always aware time is passing. So what of the conscious processing of this? Let's use the old "how long is a minute" exercise. Watching the seconds it can seem as though it takes forever.
Each cycle of focused consciousness creating memories of that time passing for every second. Someone not doing this exercise might think of multiple memories but at a slower pace then the 1 per second.
So if this theory is accurate you could assume someone focusing on the fractions or tenths of a second would experience a even longer conscious observance of the 1 minute. Other words 60 seconds/memories versus 600 tenths/memories.
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Post by paul on May 25, 2021 8:35:09 GMT 9.5
You mention Math, time, awareness and consciousness. All can be summed up in Einsteins works. For quite some decades it was almost impossible to have published a scientific article contesting Einstein. These days, when light photons can be slowed even to a standstill and then restarted, it is much easier. news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2001/01/researchers-now-able-to-stop-restart-light/I recall reading that when bouncing radar off Mars, using relativistic mechanics gives an error of about 500 km while using Newtonian mechanics gives an error of about 500 meters. The velocity of Mars is added to the speed of light. I can't find the account at present. "In the accepted historical account, Einstein is credited with having written the correct field equations for general relativity, an enormous falsehood. It is an undisputed fact that David Hilbert sent Einstein a draft of his work (which had already been submitted for publication), containing precisely these equations, evidenced by the existence of a letter from Einstein to Hilbert thanking him for doing so. Yet a few weeks later, Einstein delivered a public speech of Hilbert’s work, claiming full credit for the derivation of Hilbert’s equations. Similarly, E=mc², the famous equation relating mass, energy, and the speed of light, had been published several times by Italian physicist Olinto De Pretto, long before Einstein was suddenly given credit for it. In multiple thorough reviews of scientific literature, prominent scientists have unanimously stated that there is “absolutely nothing to connect Einstein to the derivation of this formula.”" voxday.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-einstein-fraud.htmlThe Nazis with their gravitational engine were quite opposed to what they called "Jewish science" www.ancient-code.com/meet-die-glocke-the-mysterious-nazi-anti-gravity-machine/Given all the above was well known to the US military - not least because of the thousands of Nazi scientists they brought to the US - was the Einstein myth deliberate disinformation?
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Post by paul on May 25, 2021 8:56:50 GMT 9.5
> someone focusing on the fractions or tenths of a second would experience a even longer conscious observance of the 1 minute. In the Hindu system the shortest time period is a Truti covering about 29.3 millionths of a second en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_units_of_timePerhaps some Hindus were quick thinking. So what were they observing that needed to be measured in such time intervals?
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