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Post by sammy on Sept 14, 2023 6:24:57 GMT 9.5
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 14, 2023 6:31:48 GMT 9.5
Sammy, I don’t TikTok, or much else on the Internet social media wise nowadays, I have weened myself mostly off. Can you offer its key points please?
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Post by sammy on Sept 14, 2023 7:03:06 GMT 9.5
Sammy, I don’t TikTok, or much else on the Internet social media wise nowadays, I have weened myself mostly off. Can you offer its key points please? Retired head of intelligence for US army giving his thoughts/investigation on 9/11. Says impossible plane hit pentagon with the wreckage photos. Also impossible the steel beams melted in towers from airplane fuel.
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Post by paul on Sept 14, 2023 9:04:18 GMT 9.5
Also notice with the two planes shown as flying into the 9/11 buildings, the wings, engines and tails did not break off. The buildings swallowed the planes whole, with no holes in the buildings.
One of the videos shows flows of liquid metal some floors below the alleged impact. Since when does kerosene burning at atmospheric pressure melt metal? My grandparents ran their kero heater most of the day.
Still, the event serves to test human intelligence.
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 14, 2023 17:03:54 GMT 9.5
Sammy, Thank you.
I guess that might have been retired (now deceased I think) General Stubblebine (? Spelling). He had, years ago made a rocking horse YouTube before he died. One version gave his thoughts, a second, harder to find, had some extra seconds, where frankly iirc he holds nothing back on where he thought responsibility lay.
Stubblebine, was once head of US Army Intelligence, and run the US psychic spy program (I never understood why that was declassified unless to recruit global remote viewers to give the US an edge). If anyone would know he would. I have taken grief elsewhere, amongst sober professionals, for pointing out Stubblebine’s views.
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Post by sammy on Sept 14, 2023 22:22:23 GMT 9.5
Sammy, Thank you. I guess that might have been retired (now deceased I think) General Stubblebine (? Spelling). He had, years ago made a rocking horse YouTube before he died. One version gave his thoughts, a second, harder to find, had some extra seconds, where frankly iirc he holds nothing back on where he thought responsibility lay. Stubblebine, was once head of US Army Intelligence, and run the US psychic spy program (I never understood why that was declassified unless to recruit global remote viewers to give the US an edge). If anyone would know he would. I have taken grief elsewhere, amongst sober professionals, for pointing out Stubblebine’s views. Your welcome! Truth at that level is never well recieved.. he tried pretty hard to get it out.
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Post by paul on Sept 27, 2023 19:40:23 GMT 9.5
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 27, 2023 19:56:54 GMT 9.5
Paul
Have you considered that might be a good thing?
1. Prior to covid, essentially no research was being done. 2. All we had to go on was MERS and SARS, both significantly more deadly than covid turned out to be. But we did not know that Covid would be less deadly. 3. In the normal course of things you would expect such a virus to be rather deadly, from past experience. 4. As far back as perhaps 15 years very ish, I was doing a MOOK on disasters, and it was fully expected that pandemics would happen. Not if, but when. Standard procedure eg if it starts in a hotel, that hotel gets completely isolated. 5. Nowadays money is available for development that simply wasn’t there before.
From a global health perspective this is a good thing.
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Post by paul on Sept 27, 2023 20:29:51 GMT 9.5
In Australia we had a lot more deaths from Covid17 (the usual winter flu) than Covid19 or Covid20 etc Meanwhile untried vaccines were driven by governments that had given the manufacturers indemnity against legal action What could possibly go wrong? Our great-great grandchildren will be the evidence of mRNA vaccinations. I know a number of people who suddenly were sick after Covid vaccinations - leaking heart valves, trouble walking, strokes... Then there was the arrival of Sudden Adult Death Syndrome with large numbers of international athletes suddenly dying. Meanwhile governments tried their hand at keeping the populace within due bounds. Locally we were able to travel up to 20 minutes for necessities. One state just locked down most people And censorship was introduced to the news media and to social media. Even today I do not receive email alerts containing particular words - sent from a public news site. Dictatorship loves emergencies particularly if it can make them itself Watch out for the 15 minute city. A social credit score may be required to travel further en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15-minute_cityen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_SystemAnd the Poms are de-banking those with unacceptable beliefs. Who needs London as an international banking center? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-banking
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Post by stewartedwards on Sept 27, 2023 23:14:07 GMT 9.5
Paul
1. Any new vaccine (or decades old one for that matter) will kill some recipients. That is the downside to managing global health emergencies. 2. I have just had my eighth covid vaccine and I am not stressing over it. 3. Who knows the newfangled mRNA might have unexpected long term health benefits. 4. If you ran a pharmaceutical company should you rush out new untrialled vaccines without liability cover? Ten years work into months. 5. I was locked down for months/year or so I forget, then allowed out by my oncologist before most were. It was a useful learning experience, that was able to grow from. 6. If Australia censors your news, frankly that is a matter for your democracy. Our government (Britain) get a lot of stick from all angles, and even our spooks occasionally whistleblow (less so now that they have no legal defence I give you).
Though I do agree that:
1. It gave an overview of which nations would likely be most controllable.
Now let’s tackle your comment over our banks debanking people over their beliefs.
1. Yes that seems to have happened with a famous powerful politician, but the bank has reversed course. 2. Our government have stamped hard on banks for this as everyone needs a bank account. 3. People are routinely debanked if eg they don’t meet financial requirements (of private banks), or if there are concerns about money laundering, or if they no longer live in the U.K. (again due to regulatory issues over possibly of money laundering). If you are a Politically Exposed Person (a public figure who could be bribed and are seen as a risk) you can have problems, again due to regulatory issues. 4. But as I noted our government, to give them credit, have stamped down hard on such things.
Paul, not everything is a conspiracy. Though I can understand your concerns with China emerging as the new hedgemony power and being so close to you. Somehow I rather think that if Britain tried to introduce a Chinese style social credit system, the issues we have just now with stop oil protesters and the like gluing themselves to major road surfaces, would turn into Guy Fawkes Version 2. Frankly Brits would not stand for it. Even though protesting is rapidly becoming illegal over here (though I think that a different government will reverse that).
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Post by paul on Sept 30, 2023 5:53:53 GMT 9.5
Soft disclosure of existing military technology? "Yale University researchers have developed a new airborne method for delivering mRNA right to your lungs. ... While scientists are hailing the creation as an easy way to vaccinate the masses, critics wonder if the development of an airborne vaccine could be used for nefarious purposes, including covert bioenhancements, which have already been recommended in academic literature." articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/09/29/air-vax.aspx?
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Post by paul on Oct 10, 2023 6:42:53 GMT 9.5
With the Gaza conflict, it may be useful to consider where Hamas obtained the very considerable technical resources for the attack.
Since the US is very close politically (and technically) to Israel, there may be a bigger agenda
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Post by sammy on Oct 10, 2023 6:58:31 GMT 9.5
With the Gaza conflict, it may be useful to consider where Hamas obtained the very considerable technical resources for the attack. Since the US is very close politically (and technically) to Israel, there may be a bigger agenda Word is.. Intel for attack was provided by Russia. If Russia gets US support focused out of Ukraine he would have a better chance at Ukraine and then to other nations from there. All of this is speculated beyond suspected Russian involvement.
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Post by paul on Oct 10, 2023 8:12:04 GMT 9.5
Ukraine has run out of able-bodied men.
Ukraine has also run out of other countries' weapons and support.
The end is nigh.
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Post by paul on Oct 10, 2023 8:16:28 GMT 9.5
The problem with Gaza may be that the place names in the Bible match Arabia and not Palestine, www.amazon.com.au/Bible-Came-Arabia-Kamal-Salibi/dp/0224028308There are other issues too with the Jewish connection to Palestine. For example the archaeological age of settlement at Jerusalem does match the alleged age of the Old Testament. And there are at least 2 other claimants for the Jerusalem of the OT. Does it help that Jerusalem is named after the Canaanite god Shalim? Perhaps not. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShalimAfter WW2 the European Jews may have been given the homeland of another people
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Post by sammy on Oct 10, 2023 8:48:30 GMT 9.5
This is what I see..
Darker entities globally are losing their grip on power and control of the people. These forces operate under similar avenues for completion. Meaning they have commonality. Dictators, oligarchs, extreme wealth, cartels, etc.. they are branching out to preserve themselves.
In essence the fight for what's right in Ukraine is the same fight in the Gaza strip and so on.
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Post by paul on Oct 10, 2023 9:12:21 GMT 9.5
> the fight for what's right
It may be that a consciousness limited by time and space is not a good judge of rightness - but at least one can fight for one's own people
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Post by sammy on Oct 10, 2023 9:28:20 GMT 9.5
> the fight for what's right It may be that a consciousness limited by time and space is not a good judge of rightness - but at least one can fight for one's own people Ya.. getting wills to a neutrality will not be an easy job. Especially if it involves beliefs on top of will. The trick will be to have people keep their hearts will and beliefs intact while also reaching the compromise to others. Not an easy task, but I would say we do alot of that work on this forum. Having some blueprints for our future folk to work with is atleast worth all this nonsense 🤣
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Post by sammy on Oct 11, 2023 8:30:23 GMT 9.5
Noise in the intelligence community is pointing toward joint efforts against installations of democracy.
An example intelligence provided for Gaza seige provided by Russia. Intelligence provided to Russia by tRump/Maga movement.
Day of Gaza attack, Russia attacked Ukraine over 50 times that day.
China suspected to invade Taiwan soon.
Guatemala and other south American areas in a deep struggle with cartels.
Nothing is coincidence..
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Post by sammy on Oct 11, 2023 8:37:49 GMT 9.5
Noise in the intelligence community is pointing toward joint efforts against installations of democracy. An example intelligence provided for Gaza seige provided by Russia. Intelligence provided to Russia by tRump/Maga movement. Day of Gaza attack, Russia attacked Ukraine over 50 times that day. China suspected to invade Taiwan soon. Guatemala and other south American areas in a deep struggle with cartels. Nothing is coincidence.. This has several functions.. One to combat anything that brings people together, they can't fight the masses and they know it. They would be held accountable. Two the damage done to do so will cause a war(anger) targeting those on the bottom of the pyramid and those on top will slide back into the shadows with the distraction created. Those on top play both sides to profit from this exchange.
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