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Aug 22, 2015 6:37:11 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 22, 2015 6:37:11 GMT 9.5
It appears that every junior initiate (one who Knows that Life has meaning) has ability to move etheric and some emotional energies at will. This means that they can do energy ("spiritual") healing - and equally energy damage. But at this stage the inner senses are very undeveloped with inner sight generally lagging. So the initiate can blast away - enjoying the flow of energy - with very little real time perception of what the energy is actually doing. And even less insight into what the victim actually needs. I recall Peter Caddy who at the time was leading a spiritual community of about 300. Quite often I would see him walking around bowed down under the impact of the emotional and mental flows of the community - quite a lot of which were specifically directed at him. There was a temptation to try some remote healing on him, but it was understood amongst the small group of professional healers that he was quite precariously balanced at an energy level and it was important to avoid well-intentioned but potentially dangerous interventions.
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Aug 22, 2015 11:58:07 GMT 9.5
Post by fjrogers on Aug 22, 2015 11:58:07 GMT 9.5
I believe there are many different ways of going about the process of healing. I think every tradition has its ways and means of curing illnesses and they must all have some value and truth. One safe approach to take, on the whole, is that our food should be our medicine and thus bring us good health in the general scheme of things. There's nothing like a good natural diet to stay healthy.
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Apr 18, 2016 8:49:19 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Apr 18, 2016 8:49:19 GMT 9.5
Recent experiences and observations seem to indicate that there may be windows of opportunity for healing of chronic conditions and that at other times, only partial success is possible.
The windows that I have observed have been to do with relationship and intent but those variables may be dependent upon more profound tides and times.
For example, an unbalanced relationship may reflect into organs of the human body and thereby provide entry for disturbing energies.
I saw a possible example a while ago. The wife rather likes being a queen (was in past lives) and the husband supports her in various ways (was captain of the guard for her in past lives). So in this life she is quite dominant and he recently had knee problems for which their doctor had no explanation.
It seemed likely to me that he had got fed up with bending the knee to her. She was not too pleased with that suggestion.
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Apr 18, 2016 15:21:03 GMT 9.5
Post by fjrogers on Apr 18, 2016 15:21:03 GMT 9.5
I think many illnesses can be strongly connected with symbolism and not literal physical stress.
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Apr 19, 2016 14:48:35 GMT 9.5
Post by fjrogers on Apr 19, 2016 14:48:35 GMT 9.5
I guess that many people think that the causes of physical illness are simply just restricted to the physical world. This is an illusion in which people become caught up. Look beyond the physical senses and much more comes to light.
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Aug 31, 2016 8:25:29 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 31, 2016 8:25:29 GMT 9.5
By some accounts the very matter of this planet, for a long time, has contained adverse influences (cosmic karma?) so that it has been difficult for any individual on Earth to be properly healed.
I am not sure that is a permanent situation. If the Earth became a sacred planet, would all species be free of adverse systemic influences - so that dis-ease was the result of localized action?
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Aug 31, 2016 10:03:56 GMT 9.5
Post by pointwithinacircle on Aug 31, 2016 10:03:56 GMT 9.5
Interesting thread. I used to believe that I was very good at detecting the (something I have no name for) behind the facade of peoples everyday lives. I believed myself to be quite good at speaking to the unnamed cause behind peoples actions and focusing their attention on what was real. Somehow I seem to have lost this ability. Today I often listen to people with no real idea how to respond or what they need. My efforts to climb the esoteric ladder (so to speak) seem to cause me only to descend into the darkness. It is difficult to know how to proceed.
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Aug 31, 2016 10:31:20 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 31, 2016 10:31:20 GMT 9.5
>Somehow I seem to have lost this ability. I recall long ago I had quite useful astral sight - for example in tracking my traveling companion when he was lost somewhere in the middle of India - having ignored the 1am time for changing trains. I joined the community referenced above and within a week had lost my astral clairvoyance. About a year later I was starting to achieve some modest mental clairvoyance. In retrospect my astral clairvoyance was deliberately disabled as it was a distraction from what I was supposed to develop. The flame in the heart is a most valuable exercise - avoiding undue focus on any particular plane or function. a406.proboards.com/thread/1291/flame-heart
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Nov 11, 2016 7:48:55 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Nov 11, 2016 7:48:55 GMT 9.5
I was walking with a friend a few months ago and she complained about her left foot. I pointed out that there was an energy hook in there and that she could remove it if she wished. She did and immediately reported that she could now walk easily on that foot.
About a week later she did not turn up to work and I did not see her for a month. When she returned she told me that when pointing out the hook I told her to be careful as the energy might go somewhere else.
She said that a week after fixing her foot so that she could walk (travel) easily, she was driving and her car was hit from behind. It was written off. The seat belt caused such bruising that she was off work for a month - and of course could not travel much.
She was clear that the two events were connected and that I had warned her.
I should have been paying more attention as she took the hook out of her foot - to make sure she was reconciling with the intelligence that put it there. The origin was a former partner with unresolved relationship issues.
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Nov 11, 2016 15:52:14 GMT 9.5
Post by fjrogers on Nov 11, 2016 15:52:14 GMT 9.5
It's wise to be careful when dealing with energy hooks. Energy can be powerful and volatile.
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Nov 27, 2016 5:35:49 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Nov 27, 2016 5:35:49 GMT 9.5
It is rare to find humans without hooks.
The largest hook is usually in the heart and the next largest in the head.
Look also for hooks in the throat and in the hands and feet.
Long dead people can still have hooks in us. Look for grandparents and teachers.
Resentful ex-lovers can be a problem for decades.
I knew well a very senior public officer. He had so many hooks in him that he was like a pin cushion. As far as I could tell he had no freedom of action - being pulled by so many entities in so many directions.
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Nov 27, 2016 5:40:24 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Nov 27, 2016 5:40:24 GMT 9.5
...I was very good at detecting the (something I have no name for) behind the facade of peoples everyday lives. ... Somehow I seem to have lost this ability. ... I recall long ago I had a useful level of astral clairvoyance - using it to locate a friend lost in the Indian rail system. Then I arrived in a spiritual community and within a week had lost that skill. It was a year before mental clairvoyance started to emerge. So I think that we often need to abandon the skills of the lower sub-planes to move our focus to the higher sub-planes and develop new skills. There can be interventions to assist this.
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Nov 27, 2016 13:54:03 GMT 9.5
Post by fjrogers on Nov 27, 2016 13:54:03 GMT 9.5
I think it is better to focus more on the higher sub-planes. The vibration is more refined at the higher level.
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Aug 22, 2023 9:20:11 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 22, 2023 9:20:11 GMT 9.5
I have been asked elsewhere about some videos of healing. Perhaps my thoughts may be useful more generally.
So the first video is using TCM to heal the results of being hit by an automobile. There are signs of brain damage as the victim has lost his sense of smell.
The second video is also TCM primarily pushing energy/chi into the subject who may have joint problems
The third video is Mexican using energy and relationship to release trauma from the elementals and nature spirits within the subject. The practitioner needs to work more on himself
In all of these the practitioner chooses a level on which to intervene with a relatively passive subject.
The human of course has many levels of energy/existence so that choosing the level of intervention is important.
The disturbance generating the problem may or may not originate in the human.
Thus there layers of causation to consider within and without the human.
My own view is that car accidents are karmic, so that such injuries need to be examined for causation before too much is done about healing.
For example, earlier in this thread:
She said that a week after fixing her foot so that she could walk ... she was driving and her car was hit from behind. It was written off. The seat belt caused such bruising that she was off work for a month...She was clear that the two events were connected and that I had warned her.
I often meet people with joint problems. I say that their body used to know how to build and maintain that joint, why does it not know now? There is rarely any interest in that. They just want to deal with the symptoms.
Cancer is notorious for that. After traumatic treatments the suffering human has a life expectancy of only a few years. The treatments are for symptoms not causes.
Worse, the humans do not want to take responsibility for their ill health.
So the videos mentioned above operate on different levels of causation (based on what skills the practitioner has/prefers) on passive humans.
If the intervention is not at a sufficiently deep level, the problem can be expected to reoccur in some form.
Personally I am not interested in humans that are not taking responsibility for their health. Mostly the problems reoccur. That includes, for example, charismatic churches with laying on of hands.
There is another even deeper problem. For human spirituality there are two dominant flows:
- intelligent energy, from the first manifestation of this solar system - right relationship, for this second manifestation of this solar system.
In the first two videos I referenced, the practitioners work within the spiritual stream of the first solar system, but the patients are properly within the flow of this second solar system.
This results in the patients absorbing practitioner energy that they later have to discharge as it retards their spiritual learning.
More generally, those seeking energy healing need to be sure that their practitioner is of higher consciousness than themselves - otherwise they will absorb energies that are too dense for their light-body
So causation goes something like:
- physical symptom - biological energy - subtle energy flows in the body - earth energies - relationships including self-love - personal karma - group karma - incarnational plan - cosmic ....
Parallel to that there is:
- emotion and physical trauma - mental conditioning - parasitic entities - passive and active permissions for adverse energies - cosmic initiatives (positive and adverse)
There are also parallel timelines and interference, and various inner earth intelligences.
My observation of severe physical injury is commonly that that part of the body had reduced life force, usually because of an external energy flow. Such body parts attract accidents and, having reduced life force, typically are a bit rigid and thus more easily injured
Attention that alleviates symptoms without facilitating deeper healing may be a disservice to the sufferer.
The sufferer almost always needs to take personal responsibility.
The role of the practitioner may properly be to coach the patient in learning to observe/heal causes while increasing life force in the body and developing right relationships.
It may be that a practitioner's direct interventions should be transitional - enabling the patient to become operational in managing their own health.
On the other hand there is much prestige/money to be had from alleviation of symptoms and temporary healings
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Aug 22, 2023 9:48:02 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Aug 22, 2023 9:48:02 GMT 9.5
That is a lot to take in Paul.
Some initial thoughts, based on my own life experiences.
1. Joints. I have been experimenting with encouraging healing from targeting my stem cells. Time will tell (holes in my bones and osteoarthritis). For those who don’t know we all have stem cells. They are neutral and convert to every type of cell we have.
2. Cancer. Immunotherapy tries to get your immune system working in a way that destroys cancer cells. For my incurable cancer, those people it works for tend to get 2-3 years from it before it stops working, some, a few percent iirc, get 4-5 years. I am about 4 years just now. But it does fatigue you. (Though I guess not as much as Chemo). And a sizeable list of supporting meds is required (anti virals, anti fungals, blood thinners, etc).
3. External influences. I have watched and suffered from people whose character can change in an instant. Whether medical illness or external influence it really is unpleasant being on the receiving end. I can only imagine how bad it must be for them.
4. Healers. My experience is not positive. I remember many years ago (when all this was gobblygook to me) at a ufo conference, I felt a pain in my back. As there were spare seats I moved about and triangulated to a good looking woman behind me. At a suitable moment I asked her publicly why she was sticking a knife in my back. She accepted responsibility, apologised and ‘closed herself down’. Her male companion got very defensive, but she was ok about it. I have always wondered why this healer attacked me (whether intentionally or accidentally).
5. Our bodies are made to wear out. No amount of energy work will make anyone immortal in this physical incarnation. Even if it were possible I am unsure if it would be a good thing. Better to complete the circle of life. Mind you I do most of my energy work with trees.
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Aug 22, 2023 13:04:45 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 22, 2023 13:04:45 GMT 9.5
>Our bodies are made to wear out. While it is true that Enki designed humans to have wisdom but not immortality, immortality was always within reach. When Gilgamesh visited the space station he was explicitly told not to eat or drink there - even though the station commander politely offered him the water and food of life. Here are the recorded lifespans in the Old Testament. Notice there is a smooth decline In more modern times there have been various immortals in European and Chinese traditions. The simple process is to discard all the lower subplanes on each plane and eventually the initiate may be offered a transition from first subplane material to using only the 5 electricities for his/her lightbody. A body made of electricities does not die of old age - but falling under a bus is not good
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Aug 22, 2023 19:38:11 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Aug 22, 2023 19:38:11 GMT 9.5
When Gilgamesh visited the space station he was explicitly told not to eat or drink there - even though the station commander politely offered him the water and food of life. Thoughts:- 1. Eating Mana won’t make you immortal, in the way most of us understand. Our 3 score plus ten as it used to be said. It’s not about physical lifespan. 2. Maybe if you ate it regularly. That I have no comprehension off. 3. What eating Mana will do, is enable you to see more clearly the bigger you. The source of you, and how you are immortal through incarnation after incarnation. Bigger picture stuff. 4. It also, I think, helps you refine your energies. Perhaps ancient long living people were:- 1. Using a different measuring scale. 2. Descended Gods/aliens. 3. Different incarnations of the same person (at a time when our world was sparingly populated so less easy to observe). 4. Something not to be repeated.
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Aug 23, 2023 10:07:48 GMT 9.5
Post by anshinodharma on Aug 23, 2023 10:07:48 GMT 9.5
I have been asked elsewhere about some videos of healing. Perhaps my thoughts may be useful more generally. So the first video is using TCM to heal the results of being hit by an automobile. There are signs of brain damage as the victim has lost his sense of smell. The second video is also TCM primarily pushing energy/chi into the subject who may have joint problems The third video is Mexican using energy and relationship to release trauma from the elementals and nature spirits within the subject. The practitioner needs to work more on himself. Thank you for the elaborate explanation Paul, but I am curious - can you explain the mechanics of how each of those practictioners are able to manipulate energies of another person and make it legitimately palpable - such as in the above two videos, such as giving an electric shock (what they call to Fa Qi an electric current) which they say feels insanely intense. There is another practictioner I've told you about in private that described it like this: As for the third video - can you explain both how the practictioner is able to manipulate both elementals and nature spirits directly in such a manner and what you meant when you said the practictioner needs to work more with himself. Also, is the third practictioner also operating within the first or second solar system energy? I am curious to understand this whole thing more clearly.
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Aug 23, 2023 12:56:17 GMT 9.5
Post by paul on Aug 23, 2023 12:56:17 GMT 9.5
In the first video the practitioner is using the third of the 5 electricities that provide life force to the mental plane: 5e3. The difficulty is that the life force he is using is conditioned by the previous intent of the Logos of this solar system a406.proboards.com/thread/1859/electricities-planesIn the second video the practitioner is using the second of the astral plane electricities 6e2. Again that life force is conditioned by the intent of our solar Logos when in His previous manifestation The third practitioner is better. He is dealing with relationship mechanics - thus at levels where the life force is applied in a group context rather than a body health context. He instinctively deals with elementals and nature spirits in the light body of the patient The practitioner himself has an overly constrained heart (thereby receiving a reduced cosmic flow) and a largely closed throat chakra (thereby finding it difficult to express Intent as it flows in this solar system) Effectively the practitioner is working on himself by practicing what he does know on whoever approaches. This is entirely standard in areas of subtle health practice. My observation of such practices is that they attract cases that are most relevant to the immediate challenges of the practitioner Chi/Qi is a naming of life force. Some healers use electrical life force without realizing that ... I was contemplating the 5 electricities and expressed the wish to be able to use them - and had the response that I already was using them. And I realised that when I put the energy of the GAOTU through my hands the energy flow includes some of those electricities. It is time for more intentional practices.
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Aug 23, 2023 17:29:11 GMT 9.5
Post by stewartedwards on Aug 23, 2023 17:29:11 GMT 9.5
Thank you for the elaborate explanation Paul, but I am curious - can you explain the mechanics of how each of those practictioners are able to manipulate energies of another person and make it legitimately palpable - such as in the above two videos, such as giving an electric shock (what they call to Fa Qi an electric current) which they say feels insanely intense; Anshinodharma I am pleased at your focus on ethical behaviour. There is much responsibility attached to such work. Whether on yourself, another individual, group, or planet. Are you assaulting someone? Will you interfere with their life plan? (Ie will you divert them). Will you do more harm than good? (Eg if the person isn’t ready). What about the law of unintended consequences? Will you unbalance them risking the penetration of darkness? Will your own ego take over as you enjoy the power? (Turning yourself into a dark majician). Etc. I have chosen to largely stay away from qi manipulation. But I remember very clearly when I first knowingly encountered it. I was midway through the kyu grades of the Japan Karate Association U.K., and by the end of a training session my obese body was struggling. I learnt how to gather energy from the air around me, using what I later discovered were Tai Chi techniques. I had to regularly repeat. Fortunately my Sensei let me do this (I suppose it was better than me collapsing ). The best that I can describe it back then was a ‘oneness’, but it only lasted a couple of minutes each time. It was mainly 3rd Dan’s and above who understood. Nowadays I able to connect eg with the energies in/through (I remain unsure which) some energies in eg paintings. But to interfere with the energies of another is another kettle of fish, as explained above. There is a fine line between light and darkness.
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