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Post by LorrB on Apr 30, 2010 11:48:38 GMT 9.5
Nothing like a good old murder mystery, they are so popular on TV ?!
Freemasonry has its own famous murders... the Morgan Affair and the famous Jack the Ripper case are two that spring to mind. The first was supposedly perpetrated by a group of masons and the second by a singular person.
Sometimes those looking to join Freemasonry ask about these incidents.
What would or do you say in response to a question like this?
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Post by paul on Apr 30, 2010 13:22:59 GMT 9.5
They are interesting theories.
More importantly Masonry has commenced no crusades against any religion, triggered no religious wars or political persecutions.
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Post by acrogers on Apr 30, 2010 19:35:13 GMT 9.5
The problem is that these theories are always posted by anti-masons who have no regard for the truth, and no interest in hearing evidence that conflicts with their preconceived ideas. For example, after Knight wrote his anti-masonic book 'The Brotherhood', in which he supposedly proved that the London Metropolitan Police were corrupted by Masonic links he died. The anti-masons--without a scrap of evidence claim that Masons murdered him. The truth is he died of a brain tumour, as the medical evidence makes perfectly clear. Also let us not forget that the anti-masons are still quoting the lies of Leo Taxel that were discredited as far back as the nineteenth century. But since truth means less to them than proving their own theories, I suppose it's no use arguing with them.
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Post by LorrB on May 3, 2010 9:43:23 GMT 9.5
I have never quite figured out why so many people are suspicious of Freemasonry. As in politics, religion, ordinary society, any group of people anywhere, there are good and bad, reasonable and unreasonable people to be found.
I guess in times gone by the Order was blessed with free thinking people who wanted to change things for the betterment of humanity. Those in control understandably were not too keen to see this happen an so the scare mongering started.
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Post by paul on May 3, 2010 10:04:38 GMT 9.5
>why so many people are suspicious of Freemasonry.
Perhaps the same issue arises in a different context: that so many humans feel the magnetism of Masonry.
In both cases people are ultimately disappointed: the organisations of Masonry manifest little of the power and magnetism that are felt by the profane.
Nevertheless the inner reality of Masonry continues to press upon humanity
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Post by celticmason on Oct 7, 2010 12:22:25 GMT 9.5
Freemasonry has its own famous murders... the Morgan Affair and the famous Jack the Ripper case are two that spring to mind. I would say that the Morgan Affair certainly leaves a lot of unanswered questions: from what I have read, it is certainly plausible that an individual Mason or a group of Masons could have been involved in his demise. I doubt, however, that it would have been orchestrated or sanctioned by any Grand Lodge or other authority. With respect, however, I cannot see any Masonic connection with the Jack the Ripper murders ("From Hell" is still a great movie, though!) Regards, CelticMason
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Post by LorrB on Oct 11, 2010 13:24:19 GMT 9.5
Read only is not faint hearted... The Case For The Prosecution "Judge's" Instructions
Jack the Ripper is the name applied to the murderer or murderers, never caught, of several prostitutes in London in 1888. There are many theories about this case, including some interesting aspects related to Freemasonry. It is useful for Masons to have the facts about it.
"Prosecutor's" Case
This is what a prosecutor might say to attempt to show that Freemasons were involved in the Jack the Ripper murders ---
Queen Victoria's son, later King Edward VII, was Grand Master of Masons in England in 1888. His son, Eddy, would have become King if his grandmother and father died before him. Eddy, 24 in 1888, aided by a carriage driver, made secret visits to a London artist named Walter Sickert and his friends. Eddy met and had a baby with an illiterate Catholic "shop-girl" named Annie and they were married secretly. Sickert hired a nanny for Eddy and Annie's baby daughter. The nanny was Mary (or Marie) Kelly, who, with Sickert, was a witness at Eddy's and Annie's wedding. Britain then was in great political turmoil, and if the country had found out that someone so close to the throne married someone like Annie it could have led to the end of the monarchy and all those who benefitted from the British political and social system, especially the Freemasons.
Word of all this got to Queen Victoria, who ordered her Prime Minister, the Marquess of Salisbury, to "fix" it. Salisbury, a prominent Freemason, arranged to have Annie placed in an insane asylum where she died 32 years later. Their daughter later became Sickert's mistress, had a son with him, and died in 1950. Sickert died in 1942. Eddy died in 1892.
Marie Kelly became a drunken prostitute and shared her information with three fellow prostitutes, who threatened to expose Eddy's actions. Prime Minister Salisbury decided this threat had to be ended. He called on his high ranking Masonic brethren, particularly Sir William Gull, physician to the Queen, the doctor who certified Annie as insane. Besides being a doctor, politically well-connected, and a high level Freemason, Gull was mentally unbalanced.
Gull decided to kill the women according to Masonic ritual. When Prime Minister Salisbury and other Masons in the government and police recognized what Gull was doing, even though they did not agree with his methods they arranged a coverup because they were required to keep the secrets of a Freemason, and appreciated what Gull was accomplishing. Gull convinced Netley the carriage driver and Sickert the painter to assist him to identify the 4 prostitutes. Then one by one they offered them lifts in their carriage, murdered the women and mutilated their bodies as prescribed in Masonic rituals. They then dropped the bodies in selected locations.
Gull killed the victims in the following manner: (a) On Aug. 31, 1888, Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols' throat was cut very deeply, starting at one ear and circling her throat, and her abdomen was cut open (b) On Sept. 8, 1888, Annie Chapman's throat was "ferociously" severed from one side to the other, her tongue protruded between her teeth and was swollen, her abdomen was entirely opened, all of her small intestines were removed and placed above her right shoulder but still attached, part of her stomach and "pubes" cut out and placed above her left shoulder, her uterus, womb, portion of vagina and most of the bladder removed. Her jewelry and coins were removed and two brass rings were placed at her feet. (c) On Sept. 30, 1888, Elizabeth (Liz) Stride's throat was cut from one jaw to the other. (d) On Sept. 30, 1888, Gull thought he was killing the last and most important victim, Marie Kelly, but he mistakenly murdered Catherine (Kate) Eddowes (who lived with a man named "Kelly," and used the name Mary Ann Kelly). Her throat was cut "from ear to ear," nose completely cut off, part of right ear cut off, severe cutting of other parts of her face in the shape of triangles, abdomen all exposed, intestines drawn out and placed over her right shoulder, a 2 foot piece removed and placed between her body and left arm in a careful manner. Her left kidney and part of her womb had been cut out and taken away. Nearby, police found a piece of her cut apron which fit exactly with the part still on her body. It was wet with blood, and just above it a message was found in white chalk on black bricks saying: "The Juwes are The men That Will not be Blamed for nothing." (e) After discovering the mistake with Eddowes, on Nov. 9, 1888, Gull and his allies murdered the real Mary Kelly in her apartment. Her throat was cut with the tissue severed "all around," whole surface of abdomen and thighs removed and abdominal cavity emptied, breasts cut off, arms mutilated, face hacked beyond recognition. Her uterus, kidneys, and one breast were under her head, the other breast by her right foot, liver between her feet, intestines by her right side, and spleen by her left side. Skin removed from her abdomen and thighs was on a bedside table. Part of one lung was missing, as was her heart. It appeared that the fireplace there had been used.
If these were ordinary murders the mutilations would have placed the murderer in danger of being caught. (Stride escaped mutilation because she refused the carriage ride and had to be killed quickly in the street.) The only reason for the specific types of mutilations was to inflict Masonic penalties. We should note the way the throats were cut, removal of the heart, removal of intestines (bowels), triangular cuts, cutting and removal of part of a victim's apron, divesting of minerals and metals with brass rings looking like the pillars at Solomon's temple placed at the feet. Eddowes, who was thought to be Kelly and thus the last victim, was left in "Mitre Square." The mitre and square are Masonic tools and Mitre Tavern was a well known Masonic meeting place. When the "Juwes" message was found on the wall, Sir Charles Warren, the head of the police and a Freemason, personally went to the scene to order it to be washed off, even though he had never before gone to the scene of a murder. He did this because the "Juwes" was too clear a reference to the ruffians who in Masonic legend murdered Hiram Abiff.
Freemasons have murdered those whose actions angered them, including Mozart and William Morgan. Masonic writings and history show that 33rd degree Masons crave absolute power and are willing to use murder.
Dr. Gull was said to have died in 1890, but he really was put into an insane asylum under the name "Thomas Mason" and died years later.
Sickert told the true story of the Jack the Ripper murders to his son Joseph (with Eddy and Annie's daughter). Joseph told the story to Stephen Knight, who found evidence to support it, especially the part about Masonic control of the police, judiciary, and government in Britain.
Paul Bessel wrote this article. Of interest is that quite by chance I visited the chapel (Windsor Castle) wherein the Queen's son was interred, and the official there told us in a matter of fact way that this was the grave of Jack the Ripper.
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