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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 9:48:43 GMT 9.5
Hello again!
I have for most of my life been working on this formula that was stuck in my head (-0+). I have understood it now in many ways, and regardless of how I look at it the formula stands untouched. It has only been my perception of it that has changed. I will give a overview of some of the ways this can be applied, as im not sure there is an end to its applications.
*To start this will be from a un-bias perspective, starting at a 0 consciousness perspective (before time and thought).
If we start at the beginning of time, we would arrive at that point (.).
But this point would have no shape to define it to a consciousness, but it exists so it is given a one sided shape (0).
Once something exists it also has a polarity. An up, a down, a left and right, a north, a south, etc... This polarity exchange would be positive (+) and negative (-). Not good and bad (outside perspective), just differences in its existence and also gives it boundaries (natural laws).
*From our perspective to daily physical life.
Basic electrical knowledge: From a power source always connect positive to positive, and negative to negative. You might have heard the expression "sparks flew"... Well in this one not much is left afterwards. You get the idea. Most importantly it completes the circuit allowing a cycle.
So to start we have ourselves, our body is the neutral. This would be the "machine" that we are going to power.
Then we have the power source, the breaker box in this scenario. For us we are able to work in safety by shutting this off or rather "thinking" about things before we do it. Using what we see and know to do so.
When we do a action in life it completes the circuit, like placing wires from the power to the machine. However when we actually place a wire the power is live, as we are doing those things in a live world and consequences can be devastating.
Placing wires: When working with electricity the positive (live) wire, is usually red because of its danger involved. The ground wire is usually grey or black.
Our source, being the constant in providing the energy, is the positive connection. The Earth being our constant for ground, is the grey since I already used black. Doing our actions through the ground completes the circuit offering its energy to others and advancing the continuous cycle of growth (like not using the knife to stab but cook dinner).
Now if someone were to try to connect their "intake" or positive wire to the Earth, and ground it to themselves. It will leave the source out of their circuit. What this person would leave behind is from themselves, and can only grow for themselves. This growth is a negative energy however. It will never complete a circuit right, and will eventually be grounded back to the Earth. The time in between is lost, because no advancements as a whole were made pertaining to this line or circuit. Nothing was left behind to encourage a positive result from the source, leaving the circuit as a loss.
Its this focus that will really matter, helping others toward the wire. Every thought to support a positive path will increase the strength and speed in which we travel.
*from our physical perspective to our spiritual one.
The positive and negative forces are what we use to create our center or "total options for the matter at hand". The right and wrong (black/white) would be the allowance or denial of a active circuit.
The main problem I have found with any line of thinking toward balance or wholeness, is that its impossible to be whole or complete if even one person is outside of your capacity. To find inner balance and wholeness is achievable but as I stated "its geared toward how what you do connects to others." and if others are outside of your reach the whole is 1 less, and that makes it a separation. No matter how big or small the separation, it is no longer whole. The idea of wholeness is not new, but putting the ideals before yourself is what leaves your mark on that path (circuit) in a new form.
We weigh our options at hand to make our decisions for action. If we can balance the polarity force equally, I believe this is what we consider to be "solutions". Neutral in stance, but for a united goal. Or another way to see it- what stands between the two sides.
What we want as individuals and what others want is very similar to how we deal with what our mind wants and what our body wants. The offset in this interaction is our consciousness being able to discern one from the other, many have resigned themselves to listening to their body and forgetting the mind shapes our body and character as much as the other way around.
Everything stems from our conscious choices and is our true center of self (neutral). At this level in basic form is blank because outside of any thought a mind is just that and outside of a signature. Our choices create that signature and frame it into our character and how we rely on our brains responses for interaction (pos. and neg.). This is why we need to be responsible for how its seen and absolve the difference in how our acts are understood.
* in conclusion.
If we can balance our polarities equally by having a centered mind, with the focus of making a whole connection.
We will have the core (1)
We will have the polarities as one, being solutions not problems (+1)
We will also have a goal and mind of unity within its individuals (+1)
combined to make a new 3 sided shape (triangle) pointing toward a complete circuit (up). Add a consciousness to observe and its Heaven in its simplest form.
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2014 10:25:25 GMT 9.5
>Now if someone were to try to connect their "intake" or positive wire to the Earth, and ground it to themselves. It will leave the source out of their circuit.
On occasions I have seen related situations in which the human was connected to the "solar" energies but not properly earthed. Thus the "positive" energy became congested, building up in the aura until the person started to repel the Source. Such a person is an immediate problem in any spiritual group. In fact I did not lead group meditations if such a person was present - as the invoked energies were too perturbed by the presence of that person. We would just sit in silence until the time was up.
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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 10:29:39 GMT 9.5
>Now if someone were to try to connect their "intake" or positive wire to the Earth, and ground it to themselves. It will leave the source out of their circuit. On occasions I have seen related situations in which the human was connected to the "solar" energies but not properly earthed. Thus the "positive" energy became congested, building up in the aura until the person started to repel the Source. Such a person is an immediate problem in any spiritual group. In fact I did not lead group meditations if such a person was present - as the invoked energies were too perturbed by the presence of that person. We would just sit in silence until the time was up. Too right. I believe this would be the polar opposite to a selfish circuit, being a completely selfless one. For example: 1 less is no longer a whole. I bet that was uncomfortable HAHA.
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2014 11:00:22 GMT 9.5
Actually my observation was that those people were very self-centred to the point of being oriented primarily to their own gratification, including sensual. Thus they accumulated energy without wishing to participate in humanity.
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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 11:14:11 GMT 9.5
Ewwww HAHAHA
I see what you mean.
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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 11:57:00 GMT 9.5
I mean I'm all for someone adventuring with their physical pleasure within a realistic limit, in a spiritual way too, why not. I am not to decide ones actions. But at least keep it private HAHA
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Post by crossbow on Feb 27, 2014 12:39:45 GMT 9.5
It seems to make good sense, Sammy. I admire your diagrams too. They depict well the concept that you are presenting.
If I were you, I would continue to meditate upon it, to keep it refined/condensed it to its most pure/basic elements - even though it is already a foundational model - so as to keep it tight and uncluttered. Discern any assumptions/values/presumed ideals that you might be inadvertently applying to it or including in it, and keep them separate/outside of it, and/or only applied tentatively and marked as such. And continue to observe, trial and practice it in your self and in your livingness so as to further develop a working knowledge of it, together with your inner understanding of it. I think you have something there.
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Post by paul on Feb 27, 2014 12:43:44 GMT 9.5
>most of my life been working on this formula that was stuck in my head
It is encouraging to have a starting point given to us for our journey. It suggests that some one cares about us.
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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 12:46:22 GMT 9.5
It seems to make good sense, Sammy. I admire your diagrams too. They depict well the concept that you are presenting. If I were you, I would continue to meditate upon it, to keep it refined/condensed it to its most pure/basic elements - even though it is already a foundational model - so as to keep it tight and uncluttered. Discern any assumptions/values/presumed ideals that you might be inadvertently applying to it or including in it, and keep them separate/outside of it, and/or only applied tentatively and marked as such. And continue to observe, trial and practice it in your self and in your livingness so as to further develop a working knowledge of it, together with your inner understanding of it. I think you have something there. Thank you for saying so! I have spent much time on these thoughts, so it is always nice to see it coming through clearly. I agree and do this to my best ability. I constantly refine this while still trying to fit the guidelines of common reason. For me alone I only need the 3 symbols, but it was the translation to others where I came into problems. I will say though I am most happy with this presentation then any previous.
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Post by crossbow on Feb 27, 2014 13:03:13 GMT 9.5
Yes, the diagrams are clear and concise. The words need boiling down a little so that they are also clear and concise. I expect that will come. Don't try to explain too much; just the essentials. Followed by an example one way and the other. Define what things are and what they are not, as you have already done. Contrast clarifies, as you know. The rest is editing down and condensing. Think how you first understood it, in simple form; other people will understand it easiest that way too. And even if they don't understand it, it will imprint and seed easier, and later may stir.
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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 13:19:10 GMT 9.5
Yes, the diagrams are clear and concise. The words need boiling down a little so that they are also clear and concise. I expect that will come. Don't try to explain too much; just the essentials. Followed by an example one way and the other. Define what things are and what they are not, as you have already done. Contrast clarifies, as you know. The rest is editing down and condensing. Think how you first understood it, in simple form; other people will understand it easiest that way too. And even if they don't understand it, it will imprint and seed easier, and later may stir. HAHA im not even sure I can explain how I understood it at first... Once I understood neutral it all clicked at once. I guess it would be compared to a flood, just in the mind. I had began the thoughts of -0+ when I was 15, I just didn't understand neutral yet. The 3 symbols were what helped me hold onto something firm during it. There is another story that goes along with this experience, but odd doesn't even begin to explain it. Even this is hard for me to explain. It would be like asking you "wasn't that movie great?", without you having watched it you wouldn't have any idea. So I have to express it on associable terms. Anyone know a good editor? HAHA
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Post by sammy on Feb 27, 2014 15:04:23 GMT 9.5
I very much appreciate your advice though, and I will continue to refine it. It just gets daunting polishing the same stone for 18 years, but at this point what's another 18. I already know it's worth it.
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Post by sammy on Feb 28, 2014 8:43:31 GMT 9.5
I keep thinking about the post I saw in a different thread. About how they used to see things as black and white, but there is a spectrum of color. I realized my theory might also appear as such a mind set. But I believe its our consciousness where color is born. As none of us are pure creation or pure destruction, we have human limits requiring both.
To me black and white (at its basics), are light and shadow. A light to bring it to shape and color, and a shadow to give it limits and definition. An equal offering, so to speak. They would work in unison to create a realistic physical existence.
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Post by paul on Feb 28, 2014 12:59:48 GMT 9.5
In Goethe's theory of colour, it is the interface of light and dark that produces colour. This can ofen be seen in the form of a half rainbow at the edge of a window looking out of a dark room. Goethe found 2 spectra (rainbows) - one when dark overcomes light (6 colours + green at the central overlap) and one where light overcomes dark (4 colours with pink at the central overlap) giving a total of 12 colours. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmhSXTMTtJMarchive.org/details/goethestheoryco01goetgoog
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Post by sammy on Mar 1, 2014 1:53:28 GMT 9.5
OK wow! I almost feel ashamed I hadn't heard more of these experiments. Especially being such a big Pink Floyd fan. I was getting faint memories of a couple of them in VERY early school years, but not much else. Thank you so much for linking this! The color wheel, with light and shadow points. Amazing and pure genius! Many times along my path things have fit so naturally I was positive I was catching onto natural patterns, and not merely connected thoughts. As was stated, we fill in the blanks naturally. I still have to go through the written theory, but I'll let ya know what I think.
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Post by sammy on Mar 2, 2014 2:42:10 GMT 9.5
I have been thinking about these experiments. The red to blue scope. Have they done any experiments with a concave refraction? Dangerous at the focus of light yes, but it would be a blue center with red sunset rim right? Like our sky at sunset with no clouds, and a all encompassing sun.
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Post by paul on Mar 2, 2014 6:23:08 GMT 9.5
I don't recall any concave experiments, but it is easy to obtain concave mirrors and lenses.
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Post by sammy on Mar 2, 2014 10:19:47 GMT 9.5
Yes, and I suppose the light is easy enough to produce HAHA. I have plenty of convex ones. Perhaps I will try a experiment with those, and see if I can produce similar results.
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Post by paul on Mar 2, 2014 10:27:32 GMT 9.5
I bought a simple prism and was able to reproduce the usual experiments of black on white and white on black
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Post by sammy on Mar 2, 2014 11:11:52 GMT 9.5
HAHA nice! ya I am excited to try a few experiments myself! What ones are you planning?
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